Thank you that was a very in depth answer so now I know infernape is a nice choice
I think I'll run the close combat,overheat,u-turn,mach punch set(stone edge is to inaccurate and mach punch is for focus sash user's)
My friend's and I base our tiers on what's allowed in the battle tower in that particular game so garchomp and Latios are okay but soul dew is OP so latios will have choice specs
just some questions for you
why thunder over Tbolt? anything that I need to die with Tbolt for e.g. Lapras should die to specs Tbolt my latios' sp.atk is 180 so thats 270 with specs?
dragon claw instead of brick break? I know its nice to not be locked in but brick break hits some guys for a little more damage than earthquake/outrage would like snorlax,bronzong,lapras,dewgong I know the last 2 are hit with stone edge but it misses so often its not reliable enough
metagross ev spread is 56/252/200 it has 31 Iv's in attack should I breed a new one with 31 IV's in speed?
If I were to take out scizor what would be a nice replacement? was thinking dusknoir,rotom-w someone bulky that doesn't add 2 many weaknesses
also I need a bulky water type(not gyarados) and milotic is a pain to breed right so my options are basically everything else vaporeon,swampert,slowbro,cloyster,kingdra,blastoise e.t.c.
pure water would probably be the best but as I've said I've never used/bred a vaporeon before and Blastoise is subpar and the rest bring in some weaknesses I could do with out,whats your opinion?
The reason why I suggested Dragon Claw over Brick Break is because Dragon + Ground + Rock already have good coverage together. Also, a supereffective unSTABed Brick Break does as much damage as a neutral STAB Earthquake against Normal Pokemon like Snorlax. In other words, Fighting and Ground have redundant coverage. Garchomp is also bulky enough to afford the occasional miss from Stone Edge. A STAB neutral Outrage also does nearly as much damage as a unSTABed supereffective Stone Edge.
Thunder is for the possibility that your opponent could be using Rain Dance, but Thunderbolt is still a viable substitute.
If you can't be bothered to re-breed Metagross, just keep it.
Your best bet for a bulky Water is Swampert because of its good bulk and support options:
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Ice Beam
-Surf/Roar/Protect
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/216 Def/40 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Vaporeon is also a bulky Water that you can use, but it plays differently than Swampert:
-Wish
-Surf
-Protect
-Hidden Power (Electric)/Ice Beam/Toxic
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/224 Def/36 SDef
Item: Leftovers
or
-Substitute
-Baton Pass
-Acid Armor/Wish/Aqua Ring
-Surf/Roar
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/128 Def/128 Spe
Item: Leftovers