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Old November 2nd, 2012 (4:42 PM).
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    I decided to make a thread to discuss some Pokemon's origins. Most were made by Arceus (yes, I'm an Arceist not a Mewist).

    I'm going to start off, when we agree on it's origin, we'll move on to a different Pokemon.

    First, Voltorb.

    A scientist was working on making a new Pokeball but his experiment failed and he created a new Pokemon, Voltorb. His ability to evolve is merely it growing larger, turning upside-down and upgrading.
    Everyone agree? Or do you have a different theory?

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    Old November 2nd, 2012 (8:39 PM).
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      Wait, so we're just making up theories for the origins of Pokemon?
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      Old November 2nd, 2012 (8:41 PM).
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          I disagree. Voltorb may have originally been a spherical shaped Pokemon that liked to hang out in abandoned Pokeball warehouses where they could be kept save from humans. Eventually the vast amounts of Pokeballs they were living amongst forced them to change their colours in order for them to blend in to their 'environment'.
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            If we're doing pokemon origins then check it. Genesect being a Bug type that's able to learn fly, and is an ancient pokemon must have been created from a Volcarona fossil. I know volcarona aren't fossil pokemon, but see Ghetsis and Team Plasma were in the relic castle once right? so I think they might have obtained a DNA sample of a volcarona and they modified it to create Genesect. Both pokemon are the only Bug types to learn fly, Volcarona is Pokemon from an ancient civilization so...


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            Old November 3rd, 2012 (11:43 AM).
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                I agree with or that Houndoom came from hell but disagree with the Volcarona theory because Genesect existed millions of years ago and was a hunter while Volcarona existed i think thousands of years ago and was taking the role as the sun when it went out. Also agree with the other Voltorb theory sounds more reasonable. What about Ditto because there is a lot of evidence to it being a failed Mew clone. Palettes, transform, breeds with everything, etc. I say it was the first attempt at Mewtwo.
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                    Beginning of the universe
                    This information is based primarily on the mythology of both the Hoenn and Sinnoh regions.

                    Palkia, Giratina and Dialga
                    In a vortex of complete chaos and nothingness, a single Egg comes into being, which then hatches into Arceus, the first Pokémon in existence. Arceus creates Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina, giving them power over time, space, and antimatter. Giratina, as punishment for its destructive nature, is sent by Arceus to live in the Distortion World. Dialga and Palkia succeed in creating the universe and Pokémon world, retreating into their own dimensions afterwards, with a point of access being at the ancient Spear Pillar in Sinnoh.
                    Arceus creates Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf, giving knowledge, emotion, and willpower to all living things that come into existence in the Pokémon world. The three dive into caves at the bottom of Lake Verity, Lake Valor, and Lake Acuity in Sinnoh, giving them the name "lake guardians".
                    Kyogre is formed by the pressure in the deep sea trenches, Groudon is formed deep inside the Earth, likely from hardened magma and earth, and Rayquaza is formed by the minerals of the ozone layer. Rayquaza proceeds to fly around in the ozone layer, occasionally coming to rest at Sky Pillar. Kyogre and Groudon then proceed to fill the sea and create land, respectively. A chance meeting turns the two into rivals, and a conflict for dominance over the Pokémon world begins. This battle continues until Rayquaza quells it, causing Kyogre and Groudon to retreat to special caverns, where they rest until the events of Generation III many years later. The Red and Blue Orbs are created to prevent the reawakening of Kyogre and Groudon, and are left at Mt. Pyre for safekeeping. At this time, Mew may have been plentiful and lived in large numbers.

                    The Legendary Golems: Regice, Registeel and Regirock
                    Landmasses such as Mt. Coronet are created, and Regigigas moves the continents, forming the regions, and at some point created Regice, Regirock, and Registeel. The Sinnoh region is created around Mt. Coronet. During this violent procedure, Stark Mountain is created due to shifts in the crust of the world and Heatran is formed in a pool of lava. Arceus creates the Adamant, Lustrous, and Griseous Orbs before falling into a deep sleep.
                    This information is based primarily on the study of Fossils and other archaeological remains. Some of this information is also based on scientific research.
                    Millions of years before Generation I:
                    Earliest known prehistoric Pokémon exist. It is possible that the Mew population may have decreased at this stage, as they slowly gave way to other Pokémon species.
                    First humans appear in the Pokémon world.
                    At some point after the Iron Age, Regigigas is sealed away in the Snowpoint Temple, and Regirock, Regice and Registeel are sealed away at various points across the Hoenn region.
                    At some point 300 million years ago, an ancient version of Genesect was born. Team Plasma later used its DNA to create an infinitely stronger version of Genesect with cybernetic technology.
                    At some point 10,000 years ago during the last Ice Age, the Mamoswine population flourished, then decreased when the Ice Age ended.
                    3000 years before Generation V:
                    The Relic items are created.
                    2500 years before Generation V:
                    The Relic Castle is built.
                    1500 years before Generation I:
                    The earliest known system for writing is developed and used at the Ruins of Alph, Tanoby Ruins, and Solaceon Ruins. Archaeologists are currently unsure whether the nearly identical Unown preceded or succeeded the writing system, but it is assumed they share some sort of connection.
                    The Farfetch'd population decreases due to overhunting.
                    Magikarp population mutates and becomes weaker.
                    Recent history
                    This information is based on historic records.

                    Ecruteak City
                    Hundreds of years before Generation I:
                    The legends of Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs's past.
                    c. 700 years before Generation I:
                    Bell Tower and Brass Tower are constructed in Ecruteak City, and Lugia and Ho-Oh perch at their tops.
                    c. 500 years before Generation I:
                    The first Spiritomb is sealed in the Hallowed Tower for its unforgivable misdeeds.
                    The Cianwood City Pharmacy is built.
                    c. 400 years before Generation I:
                    Azalea Town in Johto is struck by a long-term drought. After bringing the rain back once again by yawning, Slowpoke gains an honorable position in that town.
                    The Pokémon move Toxic is invented by a ninja.
                    c. 150 years before Generation I:
                    Brass Tower burns to the ground, killing three Pokémon inside. Lugia flees to the Whirl Islands, Ho-Oh resurrects the three as the legendary beasts and flies off in search of a pure-hearted Trainer.
                    The first Pokémon League competitions take place.
                    c. 200 years before Generation V:
                    Village Bridge is constructed after the river flooded the area.
                    c. 100 years before Generation V:
                    The warehouses of Nacrene City are constructed.
                    Klink begin to appear in Chargestone Cave.
                    c. 50 years before Generation V:
                    Elgyem is seen for the first time when it appeared from far in the desert.
                    First humans land on the Moon.
                    17 years before Pokémon Colloseum:
                    Wes is born.
                    11 years before Generation I:
                    Red is born.
                    Leaf is born.
                    Less than 10 years before Generation I:
                    The ferry S.S. Tidal is constructed.
                    The first Pokémon created by scientific engineering, Porygon, is created.
                    Rotom inhabits an abandoned mansion in Sinnoh.
                    Contemporary history
                    From the Pokémon games:
                    Some years prior to Generation I:
                    A team of scientists discover a new Pokémon (at the time) deep in a jungle in Guyana, South America on July 5. They name the Pokémon Mew on July 10. Mew gives birth, the only known case of a live Pokémon birth (possibly due to the scientists' genetic experimentation), and the scientists name the newborn Mewtwo on February 6. Mewtwo escapes from and destroys Cinnabar Island's Pokémon Mansion on September 1 and then goes to Cerulean Cave. At some point after Mewtwo's birth, Mew goes to Faraway Island.
                    Mr. Fuji, the writer of the Pokémon Mansion journals, goes to Faraway Island and leaves a message on the island's sign on the 6th of September, October, November, or December (depending on which of these months appear in the message) sometime after Mewtwo's escape.
                    After leaving his message in Faraway Island, Mr. Fuji goes to Lavender Town and has lived there ever since.
                    Sabrina's Gym is declared the official Gym of Saffron City after a Pokémon battle between Sabrina and the leader of the Fighting Dojo.
                    Giratina returns to the Pokémon world.
                    The Battle Frontier opens in Hoenn.
                    One year prior to Generation I:
                    Professor Rowan goes to Kanto to research the myths of the region.
                    Generation I/III:
                    The events of Red, Blue, Yellow, FireRed, LeafGreen, Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald:
                    Red leaves Pallet Town on his Pokémon journey after their rival, Professor Oak's grandson, Blue. After getting the eight Badges of Kanto, defeating Team Rocket along the way, he challenges Kanto's Elite Four, then its current Champion, none other than Blue himself. After defeating Blue, Red becomes the Champion, then ventures to the Sevii Islands to eradicate Team Rocket and help Celio to connect his Pokémon Net Center to the Hoenn region.
                    Brendan/May leaves Littleroot Town on a Pokémon journey shortly after moving to the Hoenn region from Johto by saving the local Pokémon Professor from an attacking wild Pokémon. At first, there is a deep-seated rivalry with Professor Birch's son/daughter, however, later on, the rivalry is with Wally instead. After defeating Hoenn's eight Gym Leaders and, with the help of Rayquaza, calming both Groudon and Kyogre, released from their banishment by Team Magma and Team Aqua, respectively, he/she challenges and defeats Hoenn's Elite Four and current Champion, becoming the Champion him/herself, much to the astonishment of Birch's child.
                    Approximately one year after Generation I/Generation III
                    Brendan/May receives an old sea map that leads to Faraway Island, There he/she catches Mew.
                    Between Generation I/III and Generation II/IV:
                    The events of Pokémon Colosseum and Pokémon Ranger.
                    Eruption of the volcano on Cinnabar Island causes destruction of many areas on the island.
                    Blue takes the position of Gym Leader in the now empty Viridian Gym.
                    Red leaves to Mt. Silver, training day and night, leaving Lance to act as Champion, while Lorelei returns to her home in Four Island, and Agatha retires from her position as a member of the Kanto Elite Four. This leaves three vacancies on the roster for Elite Four.
                    Two of these vacancies are filled by Karen and Will. The other is filled by Koga, who abdicates his position as Gym Leader to his daughter, Janine.
                    Extensive research confirms the existence of Steel and Dark types in the region of Kanto. (The events of FireRed and LeafGreen retcon this discovery and say that they had always been known as Generation III and I are considered to take place contemporaneously. This is backed up by HeartGold and SoulSilver, when Jasmine's pre-battle speech was changed from the subject that the Steel-type was recently discovered.)
                    Baoba leaves Kanto when its Safari Zone is closed and begins planning to open a new Safari Zone in Johto, as a replacement.
                    The Pokémon Tower is converted into a Radio Tower.
                    A Pal Park is opened in place of the Kanto Safari Zone.
                    Miracle Cycle moves from Cerulean City to Goldenrod City.
                    Groudon and Kyogre retreat to the region of Fiore to rest after their battle.
                    Giratina returns to the Distortion World.
                    A new Battle Frontier is built in Sinnoh and Johto.
                    Blaine relocates his Gym to the Seafoam Islands due to his Gym on Cinnabar Island being destroyed by a volcanic eruption.
                    After Generation I/III:
                    Humans abandon the PokéPark.
                    The Sky Prism breaks.
                    The events of PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Adventure.
                    Three years after Generation I/Generation III (Generation II/Generation IV):
                    The events of Gold, Silver, Crystal, Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold, SoulSilver, Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia, and Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs.
                    Ethan/Kris/Lyra leaves New Bark Town on an errand for Professor Elm, bonding with his/her starter Pokémon on the way. A red-haired boy steals one of Elm's three Pokémon, and challenges him/her as Ethan/Kris/Lyra's journey across Johto continues. A revived Team Rocket, using plans formulated three years prior, enrages many Gyarados, including a red one, at the Lake of Rage as they proceed to take over the Goldenrod Radio Tower in a desperate attempt to contact Giovanni. As they are defeated, the leader vows to never again re-form Team Rocket, and Ethan/Kris/Lyra continues to gather Johto's Badges, eventually gaining all eight and traveling to the Pokémon League at Indigo Plateau in Kanto. After defeating the Elite Four and their Champion, Lance, Ethan/Kris/Lyra then heads to the Kanto region to challenge its eight Gyms, which have changed from three years prior. After gaining all eight of their Badges, for a total of sixteen, Professor Oak declares him/her ready to travel to Mt. Silver, where he/she meets and defeats Red.
                    Lucas/Dawn and Barry leave Twinleaf Town in an attempt to see a Pokémon like the recently reported red Gyarados in the nearest of Sinnoh's lakes, Lake Verity. After being attacked by a wild Starly at the lake, and using one of Professor Rowan's Pokémon to fend off the attacker, (apart from in Platinum canon, where they receive their starter Pokémon before actually reaching the lake) their journey begins in earnest, and both Lucas/Dawn and Barry challenge the Sinnoh region's eight Gyms to gain the Badges necessary to challenge the Pokémon League. Along the way, however, Lucas/Dawn is brought into many conflicts with Team Galactic, whose leader, Cyrus, wishes to remake the entire universe in his image with the powers of the legendary Pokémon Dialga and Palkia. Defeating the team and calming Dialga/Palkia/Giratina, Lucas/Dawn challenges Sinnoh's Elite Four and Champion, Cynthia, and becomes Champion him/herself.
                    Hayley, a friend of Bebe, opens up a Pokémon Ranch.
                    Approximately one year after Generation II/Generation IV:
                    Lucas/Dawn receives a letter from Professor Oak, telling him/her to come to Route 224 to help him solve a mystery. After Lucas/Dawn examined the rock and thanked someone, Seabreak Path appears. After walking the Seabreak Path, Lucas/Dawn found Shaymin and captured it.
                    Approximately two years after Generation II/Generation IV:
                    Cipher and Team Snagem return in the Orre Region, and create XD001, a supposedly unpurifiable Shadow Pokémon, but their plans are thwarted by Michael. Meanwhile, Dr. Kaminko and Chobin invent Robo Groudon and Robo Kyogre, and Professor Krane invents the purification chamber, where Shadow Pokémon can be purified more easily.
                    Between Generation II/IV and Generation V:
                    The Team Rocket Grunt who stole the Machine Part returns to Unova intending to reform Team Rocket there as he previously stated. He later falls in love and has a son, moving to Icirrus City.
                    Caitlin leaves the Sinnoh/Johto Battle Frontier and returns to Unova, becoming an Elite Four member.
                    Team Plasma, under N, creates Genesect in an attempt to create the strongest Pokémon in existence by altering an ancient insect Pokémon with cybernetic upgrades.
                    Team Plasma steals Hugh's sister's Purrloin, and Hugh swears to one day get it back.
                    A few years after Generation II/Generation IV (Generation V):
                    The events of Black and White.
                    Hilbert/Hilda along with their friends Cheren and Bianca receive their very first Pokémon in the bedroom of Hilbert/Hilda's house in Nuvema Town from Professor Juniper. The three decide to leave Nuvema Town and go on a journey across their region of Unova, with Cheren wanting to learn as much about every kind of Pokémon possible and Bianca going against the wishes of her dad. Upon arriving in Accumula Town they encounter the nefarious Team Plasma who announce their plans for Pokémon liberation to separate Pokémon from humans. Hilbert/Hilda then battle Team Plasma's leader, a mysterious man known only as N who claims Pokémon are his friends. Hilbert/Hilda make a journey across the land of Unova challenging all eight Gyms and earning all eight Badges. After earning the eighth Badge, they travel to the Pokémon League where they defeat the Elite Four. Upon defeating the Elite Four, they discover that N has already defeated the champion Alder and promptly summons his castle, destroying the Pokémon League Castle. Ghetsis, one of the members of the Seven Sages reveals that he had the plan to separate people and Pokémon so that he could be the only person in the whole world with Pokémon. After defeating N and Ghetsis with Reshiram/Zekrom N becomes sorry for all his wrongdoing and flies off to distant lands on his dragon of legend. Hilbert/Hilda, Cheren, and Bianca continue their journey in Unova and get recruited by an undercover officer codenamed Looker to discover and arrest the remaining six of the Seven Sages. After the arrest of all six, Hilbert/Hilda returns to the Pokémon League, re-defeats the Elite Four, then challenges and defeats Alder, becoming champion of Unova.
                    Between Black and White and Black 2 and White 2
                    Hilbert/Hilda leaves Unova with his/her Dragon to look for N.
                    Bianca officially becomes Professor Juniper's assistant.
                    Cilan, Chili, Cress, Lenora, and Brycen retire as Gym Leaders
                    Cheren, Roxie, and Marlon become Gym Leaders.
                    Alder retires as the Champion, and Iris take his place.
                    Five of the Seven Sages disband from Team Plasma, and Ghetsis and Zinzolin form a new Team Plasma solely dedicated to conquering Unova.
                    A landslide seals off Route 10 and a majority of Victory Road, forcing another Victory Road to be built. Another landslide seals off Challenger's Cave.
                    Two years after Black and White
                    The events of Black 2 and White 2.
                    Nate/Rosa receives his/her first Pokémon from Bianca in his/her hometown of Aspertia City. Together with Hugh, who hopes to take back his sister's Purrloin from Team Plasma, the duo takes on the new lineup of Gyms in the Unova region. After earning their seventh badge from Drayden, Team Plasma attacks Opelucid City, covering the city in unbreakable ice. The Shadow Triad takes the opportunity to steal the DNA Splicers from Opelucid Gym. Nate/Rosa and Hugh chase Team Plasma to Humilau City, where after earning their final badge, they confront Zinzolin, Colress, and the Shadow Triad at the Giant Chasm. After the Triad releases Hugh's sister's Purrloin, now a Liepard, Hugh tells Nate/Rosa to go ahead and confront Team Plasma's leader, Ghetsis. Just before Ghetsis freezes Nate/Rosa alive with Kyurem's Glaciate, N flies in on Reshiram/Zekrom, saving him/her. However, Ghetsis uses Kyurem's power to turn Reshriam/Zekrom back into an orb, then uses the DNA Splicers to turn Kyurem into Black/White Kyurem. Nate/Rosa knocks out Kyurem, causing the two Dragon Pokémon to separate, then defeats an enraged Ghetsis. Thankful, N suggests that Nate/Rosa proceed to the Pokémon Leauge. Heeding his words, Nate/Rosa ascend Victory Road, defeats the Elite Four, and emerges victorious in battle with the new Champion, Iris. After returning home, Hugh's sister thanks the player for helping her big brother, and tells Nate/Rosa that she has been dreaming of a Zoroark calling Nate/Rosa's name. At Hugh's suggestion, Nate/Rosa returns to Victory Road, finding a Zoroark that leads him/her to the ruins of N's Castle, where N and Reshiram/Zekrom challenge them to battle. After being defeated, N says goodbye to his dragon and releases it by asking it to turn back into an orb to give to Nate/Rosa. Nate/Rosa climbs to the top of Dragonspiral Tower, and faces Reshiram/Zekrom again, this time, in an attempt to capture it
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                    Old November 30th, 2012 (3:08 PM). Edited November 30th, 2012 by Honeyman.
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