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Old December 18th, 2012 (3:29 PM).
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    Mienshao @ Life Orb
    Trait: Regenerator
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature
    - Fake Out
    - Hi Jump Kick
    - Stone Edge
    - U-turn

    Mienshao is almost the perfect scout. Fake Out gives me free damage, while also letting me check the opponent's item in some cases, such as Leftovers, and negating Sturdy and Sash. Hi Jump Kick is a powerful stab that can pretty much OHKO almost anything that doesn't resist it. Stone Edge can hit most foes that resist its STAB. U-Turn lets me switch out with free damage against anything that doesn't outspeed him.

    Breloom @ Toxic Orb
    Trait: Poison Heal
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
    Adamant Nature
    - Spore
    - Focus Punch
    - Seed Bomb
    - Mach Punch

    Breloom is an amazing attacker. He can spore anything that he's faster than, or even switch-in, which essentially gives him a free Focus Punch. Seed Bomb is a more reliable Grass STAB for him, while Mach Punch has priority.

    Keldeo-Resolute @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Justified
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature
    - Secret Sword
    - Surf
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Icy Wind

    Because Keldeo is amazing and he doesn't need an explanation.

    Terrakion @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Justified
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Close Combat
    - Earthquake
    - Stone Edge
    - X-Scissor

    Terrakion essentially can tear apart most Pokemon in the metagame. Not all, but a lot. Close Combat and Stone Edge hit powerfully with STAB, and Earthquake gives EQ coverage. X-Scissor is there because it's the only other good thing to put on a Choice set.

    Hitmonlee (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Reckless
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
    Adamant Nature
    - Rapid Spin
    - Hi Jump Kick
    - Stone Edge
    - Earthquake

    He used to be Hitmontop, but Lee came in because I needed a faster spinner. HJK is for powerful STAB, and EdgeQuake for coverage.

    Lucario @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Inner Focus
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - Aura Sphere
    - Vacuum Wave
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Dragon Pulse

    Because I needed a decent Flying/Psychic resist (actually, he's neutral, but whatever.) I used a Special set for him because they aren't too common in the Fighting type realm. Vacuum Wave has priority, Dragon Pulse for things that resist AS, and HP Fire for extra coverage.

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    Old December 18th, 2012 (3:56 PM).
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    HP Ice is the best option over Mienshao's Stone Edge or Fake Out, as this lets it hit Landorus, Gliscor, Salamence and Dragonite without having to resort to Stone Edge. But the set is still fine if you can't get the right IVs for it.

    Techniloom is now the way to go, even though Poison Heal sets will have to play differently:
    -Bullet Seed
    -Low Sweep
    -Mach Punch
    -Spore/Stone Edge
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Choice Band
    Ability: Technician

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Bullet Seed
    -Mach Punch
    -Spore
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry
    Ability: Technician

    or
    -Bullet Seed
    -Force Palm/Low Sweep
    -Stone Edge
    -Spore
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf
    Ability: Technician

    IMO, Keldeo is still better off with Timid, as tying with the other musketeers and Infernape who use Choice Scarf may be important.

    EQ is redundant with Terrakion's Close Combat. Since Rock + Fighting have good coverage already, you can use Sacred Sword or Rock Slide as more reliable STABs. And from what I've seen, you have too many Choice users, and that could be a bad thing if you don't predict well enough. You seem to lack entry hazards here, so Terrakion can set up Stealth Rock for you:
    -Stealth Rock
    -Close Combat
    -Stone Edge
    -Swords Dance/Taunt
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Focus Sash/Air Balloon

    Hitmontop is still a better Rapid Spinner than Hitmonlee because of the latter's extreme physical fraility; Hitmonlee is better off smashing the opposition rather than supporting. Hitmontop also has better defenses, making it easier for it to get Rapid Spins in. Also, like I said before, Earthquake is redundant with Fighting:
    -Rapid Spin
    -Foresight/Toxic
    -Close Combat/Hi Jump Kick
    -Stone Edge/Sucker Punch/Rest
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Intimidate

    Or you can try Hitmonchan, who has better bulk than Hitmonlee, and hits harder than Hitmontop:
    -Foresight
    -Rapid Spin
    -Drain Punch
    -Ice Punch
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 40 HP/252 Atk/216 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Iron Fist

    What's the purpose of HP Fire on Lucario? I don't see much use of it, TBH. HP Ice is the better HP type to use on it for the same reason as Mienshao. Shadow Ball or Dark Pulse are better coverage options over Dragon Pulse; Fighting + Ghost/Dark is basically unresisted coverage (even though Fighting + Dark is resisted by Heracross and Toxicroak). Or you can opt for a Nasty Plot set:
    -Nasty Plot
    -Aura Sphere
    -Shadow Ball/Dark Pulse
    -Vacuum Wave/Hidden Power (Ice)
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    If you want to keep Specs, that's fine:
    -Aura Sphere
    -Vacuum Wave
    -Hidden Power (Ice)
    -Dark Pulse/Shadow Ball
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs
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    Old December 25th, 2012 (4:00 AM).
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      Mienshao @ Life Orb
      Trait: Regenerator
      EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
      Jolly Nature
      - Fake Out
      - Hi Jump Kick
      - Stone Edge
      - U-turn

      It's Perfect. Doesn't need any changes.

      Breloom @ Toxic Orb
      Trait: Poison Heal
      EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
      Adamant Nature
      - Spore
      - Focus Punch
      - Seed Bomb
      - Mach Punch

      With Spore, you doesn't need any priorty. Nor you need Focus Punch. Replace them with Stone Edge and Sky Uppercut.

      Keldeo-Resolute @ Choice Scarf
      Trait: Justified
      EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
      Modest Nature
      - Secret Sword
      - Surf
      - Hidden Power [Grass]
      - Icy Wind

      Good set but Icy Wind is a bit weak. Replace it with Ice Beam.

      Terrakion @ Choice Scarf
      Trait: Justified
      EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
      Adamant Nature
      - Close Combat
      - Earthquake
      - Stone Edge
      - X-Scissor

      Pefect Set.

      Hitmonlee (M) @ Leftovers
      Trait: Reckless
      EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
      Adamant Nature
      - Rapid Spin
      - Hi Jump Kick
      - Stone Edge
      - Earthquake

      Same as above.

      Lucario @ Choice Specs
      Trait: Inner Focus
      EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
      Timid Nature
      - Aura Sphere
      - Vacuum Wave
      - Hidden Power [Fire]
      - Dragon Pulse

      Replace HP fire with Dark Pulse/Shadow Ball
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      Old December 25th, 2012 (6:34 AM).
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        I prefer to keep Focus Punch, solely for its gimmickyness and how well it actually works with Spore.

        Modest gives Keldeo more power, and he doesn't learn Ice Beam, Aryan.

        I'll switch out Lee for Chan and see how it goes.

        I'm also going to give Lucario Ice, and swap Dragon for Shadow Ball.
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        Old December 25th, 2012 (7:06 AM).
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        To add to what I said about Breloom, it might need Substitute to work because it forces more switches alongside Spore. If you Spore something, the opponent is bound to switch, giving you time to get a Sub up:
        -Spore
        -Substitute
        -Leech Seed
        -Focus Punch
        Nature: Impish
        EVs: 236 HP/252 Def/20 Spe
        Item: Toxic Orb
        Ability: Poison Heal

        or
        -Spore
        -Substitute
        -Focus Punch
        -Stone Edge/Seed Bomb/Facade
        Nature: Adamant
        EVs: 12 HP/252 Atk/244 Spe
        Item: Toxic Orb
        Ability: Poison Heal

        While Breloom may get walled more easily, that's what you have your other Pokémon for.
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