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Chespin 322 30.96%
Fennekin 536 51.54%
Froakie 295 28.37%
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I'm late to this conversation, but I love Fennekin! He's so cute, and despite reminding me of Kyubei from Madoka Magica and Vulpix, I think he's the best of the starter group. Chespin is alright, but like some have said, it's pose and design seems to be recycled, notably from Oshawott/Turtwig, but it's still pretty cool. Froakie is the worst looking starter since Torchic, in my opinion. It's design is just... off. So estranged.
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    Well, I ALWAYS pick the water starter, and until now I thought they always had the best design....Froakie looks a little too comical to be a real Pokemon. I'm siding with Chespin this Gen.
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      Chespin is alright, but like some have said, it's pose and design seems to be recycled, notably from Oshawott/Turtwig, but it's still pretty cool.

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      Froakie is the worst looking starter since Torchic, in my opinion. It's design is just... off. So estranged.
      Did you just insult Torchic, the best starter ever, and Froakie, which is pretty alright, while you defend Chespin, the worst Pokemon ever?

      Many people are comparing Chespin to Oshawott, and you're comparing it to Turtwig, but I don't see it...

      I'm glad you seem to like it, though. Chespin is not my cup of tea (to put it nicely) but if people seem to like it, Gamefreak did a good job.
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        I am waiting for the next evolutions to be revealed, but pretty sure I will be choosing Fennekin and Froakie. I generally pick the Fire and Water starter Pokemon when I play.
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          Eh, true, but like you pointed out - Pokemon don't really develop the same way real animals do.



          Dragon is too overpowered for a starter subtype. In addition to the whole, Dragons are strong thing,
          Dragons resist the three starter types. Pair it with your water starter and it's not weak to grass, pair it with your grass starter and its not weak to fire, and pair it with your fire starter and its not weak to water.

          Besides, dragon? How does that even make sense, stylistically or symbolically?
          See, that would be a legit theory if Nintendo hasn't already paired up types in the starter trio that made them more resistant to their supposed weakness. For example, Torterra, being a Grass/Ground type is more resistant to Fire attacks than a pure Grass type. Also, Empoleon, being part Steel type is more resistant to Grass attacks than a pure Water type.

          And I've seen dragons that are based on toads in fiction before. I think an amphibian becoming a dragon type is about as understandable as a seahorse (Kingdra) or an ant (Trapinch/Vibrava/Flygon).
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            And I've seen dragons that are based on toads in fiction before. I think an amphibian becoming a dragon type is about as understandable as a seahorse (Kingdra) or an ant (Trapinch/Vibrava/Flygon).
            Well, you're taking the Horsea and the Trapinch lines out of context, though. Kingdra is based off of a leafy seadragon... does that ring a bell? And leafy seahorses are in the Syngnathidae, which also includes seahorses, so Horsea evolving into a Dragon type makes absolute perfect sense. It's not like dragons are a real animal, so Gamefreak has the artistic license to say which real-world animals qualify as dragons. Besides, its name is the leafy seadragon.

            And Trapinch is designed to represent the antlion. I'm not sure if antlions are related to dragonflies, but adult antlions sort of look like dragonflies—again, dragonflies. 'Dragon' is in the freaking name.

            I'm not saying I oppose Froakie becoming part Dragon, though. I think it'd be pretty cool, actually.
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              It's possible, but highly unlikely that Froakie would evolve into a Water/Dragon type. In the pokemon world Dragon pokemon are considered mythical, powerful and very rare so you probably wouldn't find that in a starter pokemon. Froakie is my first pick of the three anyway so I'm just hoping he evolves into anything but a fat squatty toad.
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              Dragon would be way too strong for a starter. :( They missed their chance on Serperior being a dragon, it's too late to go back on that and make Froakie into one, GF!
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                Fennikin for the win! I love foxes so to have another fox pokemon added is awesome! I always loved Vulpix now I can have another fox Pokemon with me! I wonder what it's evolutions will be like. I hope it looks super awesome! I really can't wait for this game!
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                  I'm late to this conversation, but I love Fennekin! He's so cute, and despite reminding me of Kyubei from Madoka Magica and Vulpix, I think he's the best of the starter group. Chespin is alright, but like some have said, it's pose and design seems to be recycled, notably from Oshawott/Turtwig, but it's still pretty cool. Froakie is the worst looking starter since Torchic, in my opinion. It's design is just... off. So estranged.
                  Fennekin isn't really all that. If you wanna talk about recycled then Fennekin def qualifies the most. Yet another fox pokemon after we already have Eevee (who evolves into 837456858474 different foxes), Zorua and VULPIX. Design wise there's just nothing that special about it for me, it just looks like a fire type Zorua imo. I think a lot of people are hyped up over Fennekin just because it's cute or whatever but I hope it becomes something much different from the other foxes so I have a reason to want to choose it. Personally I usually favor the fire starter but this time around it's my last choice. Despite what most people seem to feel about it, I still think Froakie looks the coolest.

                  I thought Torchic's design was very well done though, it was simple but left a lot of room for it to develop cooler features as it evolved. Now look at Blaziken.

                  Worst starters for me were Gen 5. I didn't think it was possible but I dislike all three starters. All of their evolutions were really crappy stat wise, and I hated the designs. Why didn't Serperior lose it's useless little hands when it lost it's feet to become a snake? Why does Emboar look so overdesigned with gold swirls around it's body? And WHY is Samurott a quadruped when it evolves from a bipedal otter that is supposed to be a samurai? None of it makes sense to me, which is why I can't see myself playing the Gen 5 games anytime soon or at all. Hopefully they make up for it this time.
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                      Lol I signed just to reply to that one account but I read it wrong. Oh well I voted for Froakie. I think it looks something new we haven't seen before. Unlike Fennekin that looks pretty unoriginal. Chespin is my second favorite. It looks cool too. It goes like this. Froakie>>Chespin>>>>>Fennekin
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                        Froakie might evolve into a water/ice type. Yes, many non-ice water types are able to use ice moves, but why would GF decided to showcase him using an ice-move?



                        Then, Fennekin might be a Fire/Rock, given the assumption it will be a desert fox.

                        Then, Chespin the brown GROUNDHOG, could possibly be...a ground typing!

                        This would give an unfair typing to fennekin, but still there would be some secondary typing triad.
                        (I hope they scrap the secondary typing though like in second generation)
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                          Froakie might evolve into a water/ice type. Yes, many non-ice water types are able to use ice moves, but why would GF decided to showcase him using an ice-move?



                          Then, Fennekin might be a Fire/Rock, given the assumption it will be a desert fox.

                          Then, Chespin the brown GROUNDHOG, could possibly be...a ground typing!

                          This would give an unfair typing to fennekin, but still there would be some secondary typing triad.
                          (I hope they scrap the secondary typing though like in second generation)
                          I thought that was water gun.

                          I want them to have secondary types...but maybe one of them will get left behind like in Generation 3 (not 1 as Bulbasaur was already duel type to begin with) in which Sceptile didn't get Dragon as it's secondary typing...yeah that frog shouldn't be dragon (whoever it was who said that), Sceptile and Serperior deserved it more!
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                            Well, I read on serebii that Nintendo has confirmed that the types of Chespin, Fennekin and Froakie will be pure Grass, Fire and Water respectively, sooo I guess they are going to stick to tradition for the primary starters to be a pure type in that regard.
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                              Yes, but that could simply be referring to their base forms being pure in typing, not their final forms.
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                                Yes, but that could simply be referring to their base forms being pure in typing, not their final forms.
                                Yes, that's exactly what it is. O:
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                                Yes, but that could simply be referring to their base forms being pure in typing, not their final forms.
                                Yes, after all, Bulbasaur is the only base form of a starter with a dual typing.
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                                  What a waste the new starters are single type trollfreak does it again
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                                    Well I guess this picture is now obsolete if the starters don't have second typings.

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                                      Is it just me or does Feenekin look a little like Zorua?
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                                      What a waste the new starters are single type trollfreak does it again
                                      Other than Bulbasaur, the starter's first stage has always been a pure Fire, Water, and Grass type. It's usually when they evolve that they might have a second type. So, as was mentioned earlier, just because it's revealed that Fennekin, Froakie, and Chespin are all one type, it doesn't necessarily mean their evolutions might be.

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                                      Is it just me or does Feenekin look a little like Zorua?
                                      One could argue that Fennekin looks similar to Zorua, Vulpix, and even Eevee.
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                                        Well, you're taking the Horsea and the Trapinch lines out of context, though. Kingdra is based off of a leafy seadragon... does that ring a bell? And leafy seahorses are in the Syngnathidae, which also includes seahorses, so Horsea evolving into a Dragon type makes absolute perfect sense. It's not like dragons are a real animal, so Gamefreak has the artistic license to say which real-world animals qualify as dragons. Besides, its name is the leafy seadragon.

                                        And Trapinch is designed to represent the antlion. I'm not sure if antlions are related to dragonflies, but adult antlions sort of look like dragonflies—again, dragonflies. 'Dragon' is in the freaking name.

                                        I'm not saying I oppose Froakie becoming part Dragon, though. I think it'd be pretty cool, actually.
                                        I actually already knew that. However, in the Pokémon world, "dragons" aren't always what become Dragon types. For example, Gible's and its evolutions are mostly based on land sharks. That doesn't necessarily scream Dragon to me. Inversely, Gyarados, which is clearly based on Dragons is NOT a Dragon type. So, you see, not every typing makes absolute sense. I'm not saying Froakie would definitely be Water/Dragon, simply that I would accept it if Pokémon made an amphibian-based Pokémon into a Dragon type because Amphibians do share enough similarities with reptiles (I mean in their appearance. I do know the differences biologically) that it'd be justifiable.
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                                          Man, I can't believe the Water type starter! Honestly, I always pick the water type starter every time i play a pokemon game, and that will never change, but that doesn't mean I'm not disappointed! What happened to the awesome water types like Oshawott, Squirtle, and Piplup?! Not to be unkind or anything, but I just wish that they would've put more effort into Froakie. Besides that though, Fennekin and Chespin look awesome!
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                                            What a waste the new starters are single type trollfreak does it again
                                            Gamefreak never hinted or said that they were anything other than the basic starter types. Only thing we have to go by are three attacks that they used as hints. We've never had a 3D main game so we don't know what those attacks were. They could be like the ones developed by Genius Sonoroty or Creatures Inc, but I doubt that and suspect Gamefreak designed the attacks themselves. Chespin used what we "think" is a dark attack which is why a lot of fans think he'll be Grass/Dark by final evolution. A lot of Dark Attacks can be freely learned though. If it was Faint Attack, that attack isn't exclusive to Dark Types and is quite common on a few mammal based Pokemon.

                                            Fennekin uses an unknown "Psychic" attack. Some say they think its Confuse Ray, some say Psywave. We don't know. Only thing argueing against Confuse Ray is it looks like Kirlia took damage, though, all of them were shown to be against a Pokemon that the second attack could have been super effective against. We also don't know if Pokemon will look like they take damage when hit by "Other" attacks.

                                            Last is Froakie. Based on what I said earlier, it looks like he used a Fighting attack by most. Though some think it could have been Quick Attack/Fury Attack. Again these attacks were most likely scratch designed by Gamefreak so we don't know what they look like or how the Pokemon look when hit by the attacks.

                                            If its the used stronger pairing, the Chespin used Dark because Ghost is weak to Dark, Fennekin used a Ghost attack because Psychic is weak to Ghost, and Froakie used Fighting attack because Patrat (Normal) is weak to fighting.

                                            leaving the possibility that their final types are Grass/Dark, Fire/Ghost, and Water/Fighting. All of this is subjective...and honestly coincidental as, like I said...we don't know what the attacks are. They may not be the types we think they are and the second attacks don't have to have anything to do with their typing. We always tend to over think these things.

                                            As for the attack Froakie used in the video, despite there being a snowflake looking design in it, its Water gun/Hydropump, not an Ice attack.

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                                            Man, I can't believe the Water type starter! Honestly, I always pick the water type starter every time i play a pokemon game, and that will never change, but that doesn't mean I'm not disappointed! What happened to the awesome water types like Oshawott, Squirtle, and Piplup?! Not to be unkind or anything, but I just wish that they would've put more effort into Froakie. Besides that though, Fennekin and Chespin look awesome!
                                            Froakie is freakin awesome! What is wrong with you man? XD
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