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    They should make evolutions of Sableye, Sandslash, Qwilfish, Absol, and Heracross. I also think they should make a pre evolution of Scyther.
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      Hm... for evolutions... let's go back to the starter evolutions of X and Y shall we?

      OK, there's one name that's been going through my head nearly every single day that I think about the final evolution of Fennekin... as a Fire/Psychic, and that name is simply "Psyfennec", as in "Psychic" and "Fennec Fox". :P
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        Just had a thought, maybe Helioptile evolves into Heliocopter and its ears become like the blades on a helicopter (Electric/Flying)?
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        Just had a thought, maybe Helioptile evolves into Heliocopter and its ears become like the blades on a helicopter (Electric/Flying)?
        I feel like going from something based on a lizard to something that flies would be a bit strange, but I guess that's possible. I could see something like that happening with it's ears though, but I'd honestly see it become more like a bearded dragon as far as ferociousness goes, instead of changing its species all together.
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        Old June 4th, 2013 (6:30 AM). Edited June 4th, 2013 by MiTjA.
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          I'm not buying its secondary Normal type.

          In other words, I think there is some twist regarding Helioptiles Normal type, which we don't know about yet.

          It's the most absurd thing in type combinations I have ever seen. There has got to be a reason why its not a Normal/Electric, like "every bird"/Bibarel/Girafarig/Deerling/Meloetta, and that "unknown justification" would vanish if it was to be replaced by Flying (or any other type) upon evolution as Great Tornado suggested.

          Some possible explanations I figured out are:

          ---Maybe the Normal type changes depending on the floor type of each battle (similar to the Burmy-coat mechanic).
          Some examples:
          -Meadow->Electric/Grass
          -dry land/desert->Electric/Ground
          -rocky terrain->Electric/Rock

          ---Maybe it has a "Color change"(Kecleons ability) for just its secondary type.
          So if it was hit by a Bug move-->Electric/Bug etc.

          Any other ideas?

          I doubt gamefreak suddenly stopped paying attention to type order in combinations (they have been all 5 gens. Just compare Geodude and Rhyhorns type, or Sableye and Spiritomb; or how every Normal combo is primary Normal as mentioned above)
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            I'm surprised no one mentioned the possibility of evolving into some kind of electric Kimodo Dragon of some sort. :x Though I suppose that's better saved for an actual Dragon type of some sort? If It wasn't for Helioptile's secondary type being Normal, I'd argue that it could be the first Electric/Dragon to exist~!
            Yeah, I really hope we get a non-dragon lizard someday, that turns into a komodo dragon and gains Dragon as secondary in the process.


            Btw, Zekrom is a Dragon/Electric if that counts (since its a>reverse, and b>a legendary, while you might be wishing for a regular pokemon of that combo, as do I.)
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              I sort of think it's unfair that we ignore the legends when it comes to combos...I mean Emoga's the only true Electric/Flying if one goes by that standard (Rotom has forme).

              Anyways I hope that Helioptile evolves into a giant lizard, or maybe a dinosaur.
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                But its true.
                (well okay as competitive battler Id consider at least Zapdos as an okay pokemon for battles)

                I mean, I am still waiting for an 2 or 3 stage Electric bird family D:!

                Or casual elemental birds in general actually... theres enough of Normal, Water and Dark now..
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                  anybody else want to see a swellow evolution? i don't feel that evolution chain is completed for some reason, mainly because the other bird pokemon you can find at the start of a game (pidgey+starly) have a 3rd evolution and i think taillow needs one too.
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                  anybody else want to see a swellow evolution? i don't feel that evolution chain is completed for some reason, mainly because the other bird pokemon you can find at the start of a game (pidgey+starly) have a 3rd evolution and i think taillow needs one too.
                  Noo, Swellow is my favorite Pokemon and I wouldn't like to see an evolution for it. Hoothoot and Noctowl are a two evolutionary stage regional bird too, so not all of them require three staged evolutions.
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                    Noo, Swellow is my favorite Pokemon and I wouldn't like to see an evolution for it. Hoothoot and Noctowl are a two evolutionary stage regional bird too, so not all of them require three staged evolutions.
                    Ok i forgot about Noctowl but i still think Swellow should evolve, i just don't think its good enough, if its your favourite pokemon then you wouldn't have to evolve it, i personally just think it isnt strong enough as a two stage evolution, unlike noctowl which is part psychic.
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                      Ok i forgot about Noctowl but i still think Swellow should evolve, i just don't think its good enough, if its your favourite pokemon then you wouldn't have to evolve it, i personally just think it isnt strong enough as a two stage evolution, unlike noctowl which is part psychic.
                      Noctowl is Normal/Flying, he isn't Psychic at all mate.
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                        forget noctowl... fearow was the example someone should have pointed out.
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                          I think Nocowl should evolve too but that's just me.
                          And yes Fearow could use an evolution, but it's like a secondary regional bird, just how some regions have two regional bugs (Weedle, and Caterpie, and Wumpel's evolutions) so maybe it won't receive an evolution just like the other two stage birds :(.
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                            It would be really cool to see some 2nd gneration pokemon families expand, like Noctowl. I think that a Shuckle evolution might work (Though not sure how you could top its stats *coughdefensecough* ...). It could be a very large rock or boulder rather than a small rock and would be more tortoise-like with slightly better defined or somewhat solid legs than just a mass of tentacles in a rock.

                            One first generation pokemon I would love for them to come back to would be a full Kangaskhan family with a baby pre-evolution. Maybe rather than a new pokemon for a father, it could just be a gender difference like no pouch on its stomach. But at the very least a baby [Or maybe make the link to Cubone ;)]
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                              I wanna see Corsola get a pre-evo and an evolutionary form like Roselia in Diamond/Pearl. I also wanna see Qwilfish, Mawile and Sableye get evolve stages. And maybe Tentacruel?...Da Tentacool-line, they live in pretty much every body of water around da pokemon world and u even see wild Tentacruel(s)...with da exception of Unova. >.>
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                                I would like an Electrode evolution, my sig can show a bit why. But I guess GF would go totally on the other side, they could make him like a Master ball.
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                                    I think Nocowl should evolve too but that's just me.
                                    And yes Fearow could use an evolution, but it's like a secondary regional bird, just how some regions have two regional bugs (Weedle, and Caterpie, and Wumpel's evolutions) so maybe it won't receive an evolution just like the other two stage birds :(.
                                    Yea the early pokemon of each gen are usually clones of previous ones in terms of data (same amount of stages with similar stats just shuffled around a bit).

                                    So Starly/Pidove are clones of the 3-stage bird concept that Pidgey introduced,
                                    while Hoothoot/Taillow/Wingull are clones of the 2-stage bird concept that Spearow introduced.
                                    Each gen there is at least of of either.
                                    gen 1=one of both - a 'Pidgey' and a 'Spearow',
                                    gen 2=just second - a 'Spearow',
                                    gen 3=two second - two 'Spearows'
                                    gen 4=just first - a 'Pidgey'
                                    gen 5=just first - a 'Pidgey'
                                    and gen 6= at least the fourth 'Pidgey' (Fletchling is seen to have 3 stages in a pokedex screenshot)

                                    These are 2 distinct leagues of birds, and the 2-stage ones are not meant to be compared to the 3-stage ones, and would probably end up stronger than them if they gained new evolutions since they are stronger than the middle stages.
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                                      Noctowl is Normal/Flying, he isn't Psychic at all mate.
                                      Sorry "mate" but he still learns psychic moves like confusion and he can learn psychic via TM so even if he isn't a psychic type he still learns good psychic attacks, and he's a better pokemon to battle with than Swellow... which makes me think that swellow should evolve.
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                                        Sorry "mate" but he still learns psychic moves like confusion and he can learn psychic via TM so even if he isn't a psychic type he still learns good psychic attacks, and he's a better pokemon to battle with than Swellow... which makes me think that swellow should evolve.
                                        Swellow is stronger than Noctowl. Heck with Guts its a bigger threat than Pidgeot, Fearow, Dodrio and Unfezant too.

                                        All it needs is some type coverage... like a Fire move, so its not stopped by Steel types. And thats more likely to gain by other means than a new evolution.
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                                        Swellow is stronger than Noctowl. Heck with Guts its a bigger threat than Pidgeot, Fearow, Dodrio and Unfezant too.

                                        All it needs is some type coverage... like a Fire move, so its not stopped by Steel types. And thats more likely to gain by other means than a new evolution.
                                        Agreed, and to be honest, I don't think giving Swellow an evolution is really something GameFreak might even have in mind right now. Though, that's a far reaching guess since no one really knows what GameFreak is ever thinking except GameFreak themselves. Point being, Swellow as it stands is one of the strongest regional birds to date, all it needs is better type coverage and newer moves are likely to fix that than an evolution as MiTjA so perfectly said.
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                                        Have to agree there. Staraptor outclasses it for power and type coverage, although Swellow's faster. Perhaps they'll introduce the next regional bird as the best of both worlds? Although I guess they don't want you too overpowered...

                                        I doubt they'd actually due it as the Hitmon comparisons would be too much...but a joint pre-evolution for Throh and Sawk? They could have it half red, half blue and throw in an anti-racist message :)

                                        Gotta be honest I'm looking forward to the day Raichu evolves into the first 4-stage evolutionary line :P
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                                          staraptor is the best regional bird imo its just so powerful, fair enough i was probably wrong about swellow but i still think an evolution would be cool
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