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I'd like Beedrill to get a boost too, a BST of 385 is pretty poor given that it's at the final evolution. If it were to gain Speed Boost I think Butterfree would have to get an equally enhancing ability, same goes for Dustox & Beautifly.

They already have Quiver Dance at least.

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    The only way to save NU Pokemon from being NU is a base stat revamp, which is a possibility given that each even-numbered gen changes something from the game mechanic. Gen II had the special stat split, and Gen IV had the physical/special move split.

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      Actually in my experience in battling competitions, I'd say more than half of the top players used Amoonguss.
      So? Not a single World Championship finalist last year used one. Clearly the users of Amoonguss didn't make it!

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      Hm... it makes me think about which older Pokémon would end up with improved BST and when the new Pokémon get revealed... seeing how high their BST would be in Pokémon X and Y.

      It'll be interesting to see what happens.

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      The only way to save NU Pokemon from being NU is a base stat revamp, which is a possibility given that each even-numbered gen changes something from the game mechanic. Gen II had the special stat split, and Gen IV had the physical/special move split.

      Nope, as mentioned earlier, Politoed used to be NU and thanks to one addition in Drizzle, it is now one of the most common Pokémon in OU.

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      Well at my local one, the winner did in fact use one. Pokémon that may not be in OU can still easily be used there. Such as Riolu.

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        Nope, as mentioned earlier, Politoed used to be NU and thanks to one addition in Drizzle, it is now one of the most common Pokémon in OU.

        Well at my local one, the winner did in fact use one. Pokémon that may not be in OU can still easily be used there. Such as Riolu.

        Doubles definitely allows Pokemon who aren't used much or at all in singles a chance to shine. Zapdos is UU in singles but crazy awesome in doubles... along with Cresselia. Amoonguss is another favorite along with Dusclops. Just nice to have different options.

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        I think they'll keep the seasons, if they didn't, what would happen to Deerling and Sawsbuck?

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          I think they have the idea of the new X and Y version wrong...Since its on the 3DS...The pokemon adventure is fully 3 dimensional. The X,Y and Z axis are responsible for the creation of this 3 dimensional view of the pokemon world and each legendary represents an axis.Without their existence the world would be void. The bad guys are gonna be called team oblivion and their goal is to destroy the three legendaries to somehow start a new world...

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          Naturally that makes sense to ask about Deerling and Sawsbuck, but let's look at Leafeon, Glaceon, Magneton, etc. You couldn't evolve them in HeartGold/SoulSilver unless you traded back to D/P/Pt.

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          I think they have the idea of the new X and Y version wrong...Since its on the 3DS...The pokemon adventure is fully 3 dimensional. The X,Y and Z axis are responsible for the creation of this 3 dimensional view of the pokemon world and each legendary represents an axis.Without their existence the world would be void. The bad guys are gonna be called team oblivion and their goal is to destroy the three legendaries to somehow start a new world...

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          Naturally that makes sense to ask about Deerling and Sawsbuck, but let's look at Leafeon, Glaceon, Magneton, etc. You couldn't evolve them in HeartGold/SoulSilver unless you traded back to D/P/Pt.

          There are always Pokémon you can't catch in every game though. You can't really explain Deerling and Sawsbuck.

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            i don't mean to sound stupid but what exactly is a UN and a OU pokemon.

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              i don't mean to sound stupid but what exactly is a UN and a OU pokemon.
              I want to know this, too. For now, I found this: OU Pokémon - Smogon University.

              EDIT: Clicking a link there tells me "UN" is a typo. OU is "Overused", NU is "Never Used".

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              I believe that it is based on the legend that was brought up where they represent the land, air, and sea. I think the new villains will be knights and another team of scientists. It would be one team conquering the region with methods that were used in the past like fighting with swords and pokemon. The scientist team could represent trying to conquer the region with new technology and maybe genetically alerted pokemon like porygon, etc. It probably won't happen though. I saw an interesting rumor for the game that states that the starters evolutions become European based. It said that froakie became electric and water and resembles a viking, fennekin becomes fire and psychic and resembles a wizard and chespin becomes grass and fighting and looks like a knight with chestnut armor. It also mentioned some other pokemon, some of which were based on European culture.

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              I want to know this, too. For now, I found this: OU Pokémon - Smogon University.

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              It's actually NU.

              They're some of the tiers in Smogon's tier system.
              Tiers are as follows: NU, RU, BL2, UU, BL, OU and Uber.
              There is also LC, Limbo and NFE.

              The tiers system is explain in detail here.

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              NU - Never Used. These are the Pokemon that aren't often used, this is mainly due to those Pokemon that are over looked or have poor statistics.

              OU - Over Used. These are Pokemon that are used more than others, this is mainly due to useful abilities or a sturdy BST.

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              i don't mean to sound stupid but what exactly is a UN and a OU pokemon.
              Not a stupid question. In competitive battling, there are tiers that help divide Pokémon into certain brackets based on how frequent they are used and how useful they are in competitive battling. There are more than just "NU" (I believe that's what you mean) and "OU" as listed below:

              Uber
              : Typically Pokémon banned from being used in other tiers. They usually consist of legendaries but not always.

              Over-Used (OU): The most popular tier in the metagame. This consists of Pokémon you're more than likely to see used in the metagame.

              Borderline (BL): Pokémon that exceed the expectations for the tier Under-Used, but doesn't exactly fit in the OU bracket.

              Under-Used (UU): Pokémon that aren't used very often in competitive battles and you're not likely to see them used most often in the OU tier.

              Never-Used (NU): The title isn't to be taken literal, but these are Pokémon that you're not typically going to see being used very much or at all.

              Not Fully Evolved (NFE): I think this one speaks for itself.

              I think that covers most of it. I haven't been in the competitive scene for such a long while honestly.

              Edit: Got my butt whopped by the above posters. But you get the idea now!

              I'm expecting X and Y to shake up the metagame scene a bit. At least I hope so, maybe I might get back into it again...or maybe not. But hey, you never know!

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                thanks thats good to know now i can join in on the conversation.

                something wierd i've noticed is that the professers are named after trees.
                Oak,Juniper,Burg.

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                thanks thats good to know now i can join in on the conversation.

                something wierd i've noticed is that the professers are named after trees.
                Oak,Juniper,Burg.

                Yes, it's a tradition Pokémon has had. I hope we get another female professor, maybe a younger one that is like a genius.

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                thanks thats good to know now i can join in on the conversation.

                something wierd i've noticed is that the professers are named after trees.
                Oak,Juniper,Burg.

                And up to gen 4 almost all the regions towns with gyms were named after colors.

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                Maybe they'll choose to divert away from the whole Tree based names for Professors, as much as I'd like to see Professor Maple it's something they could choose to do, they've already changed to letters from Colours.

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                And up to gen 4 almost all the regions towns with gyms were named after colors.

                Hoenn's cities and town weren't named after colours.

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                Hoenn's cities and town weren't named after colours.

                Hm i thought it had a few of them named after colors.

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                  thanks thats good to know now i can join in on the conversation.

                  something wierd i've noticed is that the professers are named after trees.
                  Oak,Juniper,Burg.

                  Yes, we've noticed this too and even had a discussion at one point about what the new professor's name will be. We've had Oak, Elm, Birch, Rowan, and Juniper. We also have Ivy...

                  (Brock: "DON'T MENTION THAT NAME!")

                  ...sorry! I mean, we have this Orange Islands chick who used to be Brock's love interest. She is an anime exclusive as far as I know.

                  Back to Gen. VI. Professor Pine is an option, as the Swiss Pine is apparently a common tree in France. In fact, I'm going to say this is as good as money in the bank. My call is Pine.

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                  Hm i thought it had a few of them named after colors.
                  Nope. Here's a list (Gym locations italicized):

                  - Littleroot Town
                  - Oldale Town
                  - Petalburg City
                  - Rustboro City
                  - Dewford Town
                  - Slateport City
                  - Mauville City
                  - Verdanturf Town
                  - Fallarbor Town
                  - Lavaridge Town
                  - Fortree City
                  - Lilycove City
                  - Mossdeep City
                  - Sootopolis City
                  - Pacifidlog Town
                  - Ever Grande City

                  I defy you to find a name based on a colour.

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                  Yes, we've noticed this too and even had a discussion at one point about what the new professor's name will be. We've had Oak, Elm, Birch, Rowan, and Juniper. We also have Ivy...

                  (Brock: "DON'T MENTION THAT NAME!")

                  ...sorry! I mean, we have this Orange Islands chick who used to be Brock's love interest. She is an anime exclusive as far as I know.

                  Back to Gen. VI. Professor Pine is an option, as the Swiss Pine is apparently a common tree in France. In fact, I'm going to say this is as good as money in the bank. My call is Pine.

                  Nope. Here's a list (Gym locations italicized):

                  - Littleroot Town
                  - Oldale Town
                  - Petalburg City
                  - Rustboro City
                  - Dewford Town
                  - Slateport City
                  - Mauville City
                  - Verdanturf Town
                  - Fallarbor Town
                  - Lavaridge Town
                  - Fortree City
                  - Lilycove City
                  - Mossdeep City
                  - Sootopolis City
                  - Pacifidlog Town
                  - Ever Grande City

                  I defy you to find a name based on a colour.

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