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I just don't see GF going for any kind of mechanism that would merge legendary with normal Pokemon anytime soon, that would seem too awkward of a feature to have.
Very true. Which begs the question, why is it just so reminiscent of Victini anyways? It's been recorded in interviews (don't remember which) that the artists and staff spend a lot of time creating unique silhouettes and designs for pokemon to avoid repetition. If it were a flying type, they could use pastel cool colours, especially blues and greys - or even browns, if they go for a bird theme versus an air/cloud theme.

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The only thing it shares with Victini is the eyes and perhaps the fangs
On the other hand, there's simply no other way to combine a Victini and an eeveelution in the same design other than what they've got here, barring the bows. It has to be a quadruped with the same proportions. And its fur pattern doesn't have to be exactly the same as Victini's - it still retains the colour and the "V" theme. The fact that it looks so similar to Victini an association too easy to make - even if it has nothing to do with Victini. This would imply a breach in their dedication to maintain uniqueness among their pokemon - which doesn't look good on the designers' parts.

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    I.. really don't think the art means all that much. It could be just a coincidence that the two look similar (which I kind of don't see to be honest; it doesn't look -exactly- like Victini). I mean, juuust because pokemon look like various other pokemon, doesn't necessarily mean it means much of anything. A lot of pokemon do share some familiar facial features, especially the eyes.
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    I agree with Shawn when he mentioned in an earlier post that there are eventually bound to be Pokemon to look like each other. I mean think about it, assuming there's more than 150+ Pokemon added this generation, there would be a total of around 800+ Pokemon to design to look as "original" as possible. While plausible to some sort of extent, it wouldn't be easy in any definition of the word, so I wouldn't really place the blame much on the designers. u_u
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      Since when does Ninfia look anything like Victini...? I'm sorry, but I am not able to see any real resemblance, other than the resemblances that MANY Pokemon share.

      I think Ninfia is very unique as a Pokemon, compared to what we currently have.
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        It also looks way too similar To Milotic. The color scheme and the ribbons.
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          The first thing I thought when I saw it was that it looked like Victini mixed with Milotic.

          I think it's a new type, which I think will be a Rainbow-type, and I would of thought that even if there wasn't a rainbow in the background. I also think the new legendary Pokémon revealed last month are the same type, plus something additional. The one for Y is clearly part Flying-type.

          I would prefer a Light-type, which is something I've wanted since gen 2.

          This announcement clearly means a return to having new evolutions for older Pokémon which makes me extremely happy. I didn't think we would see a new Eevee, but I was hoping for one. I hope we get a second one, but I doubt it. I don't like the look of this one.
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            So how will Ninfeon's base stats will be spread? We know it's 130, 110, 90, 65, 65, and 60 from all Eeveelutions.

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            What is so broken in Pokemon today that they need new type.
            Dragon types, Water types, Fighting types, Steel types, Stealth Rock, Physical Pursuit, Perma-weather summoners, and the severe lack of Fire, Electric, Ice, Rock, and Poison types in OU.
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            Aaah, it's adorable! I'm thinking it looks an awful lot like a normal type. Although it could be flying, with all the flowiness, and the ribbons do look a little bit like butterflies.

            Perhaps it evolves when given a ribbon or winning one (possibility of contests?).
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              She looks agile at least so I'm hoping she'll join Espeon in the base 110 club. I also hope she becomes a fast Pokemon with a huge Defense stat (130), decent HP (95), and basically nothing for offenses (65 each with the last 60 in SpDef.)

              There's also a pattern to Eevee movepools that goes like:
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              It looks like a great candidate for Air Slash and Calm Mind. If it turns out to be a Flying Type. If it's normal then... maybe it'll gain improvement moves like Giga Impact.
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              She looks agile at least so I'm hoping she'll join Espeon in the base 110 club. I also hope she becomes a fast Pokemon with a huge Defense stat (130), decent HP (95), and basically nothing for offenses (65 each with the last 60 in SpDef.)

              There's also a pattern to Eevee movepools that goes like:


              It looks like a great candidate for Air Slash and Calm Mind. If it turns out to be a Flying Type. If it's normal then... maybe it'll gain improvement moves like Giga Impact.
              I kind of disagree with that, because as proven with other eeveelutions(Umbreon, I'm looking at you) that kind of stat spread isn't exactly the best ever. I don't know how prevalent Taunt is if anything, but those stats basically scream support Pokemon and well...we already kind of have Umbreon to serve that purpose. u_u I hope that makes sense.
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                I kind of disagree with that, because as proven with other eeveelutions(Umbreon, I'm looking at you) that kind of stat spread isn't exactly the best ever. I don't know how prevalent Taunt is if anything, but those stats basically scream support Pokemon and well...we already kind of have Umbreon to serve that purpose. u_u I hope that makes sense.
                Duly noted, but even competitively, there's nothing wrong with having two support Eeveelutions. Umbreon has it's own "role", and it's own weaknesses.
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                  I'll want it to be a speedy, special attacker pokémon with decent defenses, and low attack stat if flying, if it's normal than reverse the sp atk with the atk.
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                  The scans seem to make a big deal of it being "talented," supposedly using a variety of attacks (because it looks to be using Swift and some sort of Fire attack in the screenshots), so perhaps it is Normal but can use a variety of attacks. My boyfriend suggested it having Multitype xD I know that sounds a bit Farfetch'd(!), but looking at it now I wouldn't be surprised if it was, lol!
                  You know, given that it was central in the main poster/image thing, perhaps it means that this Eeveelution is the central one like you're implying, and therefore due to that it shares what everything else can do, while being normal-typed, but would make like another Porygon or something? That'd be interesting.
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                    She looks agile at least so I'm hoping she'll join Espeon in the base 110 club. I also hope she becomes a fast Pokemon with a huge Defense stat (130), decent HP (95), and basically nothing for offenses (65 each with the last 60 in SpDef.)

                    There's also a pattern to Eevee movepools that goes like:


                    It looks like a great candidate for Air Slash and Calm Mind. If it turns out to be a Flying Type. If it's normal then... maybe it'll gain improvement moves like Giga Impact.

                    That is an interesting spread Fast and Defensive wall at the same time. Has that been done before? Nothing comes to mind.

                    It might not be the most competitive thing, but it would be worth it just to be different. However, Flying is typically a offensive type.
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                    That is an interesting spread Fast and Defensive wall at the same time. Has that been done before? Nothing comes to mind.

                    It might not be the most competitive thing, but it would be worth it just to be different. However, Flying is typically a offensive type.
                    There's... Togekiss/Togetic I guess? idk.

                    But yeah while it would be interesting I'd rather have it be a really good attacker if it is flying. :( Like come on, increase Hurricane, more special moves, and boom you'd have an improved special flying-type group! And this one could lead it off :3
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                    You know, given that it was central in the main poster/image thing, perhaps it means that this Eeveelution is the central one like you're implying, and therefore due to that it shares what everything else can do, while being normal-typed, but would make like another Porygon or something? That'd be interesting.
                    I hope it'd be our first physical-based eeveelution, since we already have so many specially-based ones(in fact, all of them are, sans Flareon which doesn't even have any decent physical attacks, really).
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                    I hope it'd be our first physical-based eeveelution, since we already have so many specially-based ones(in fact, all of them are, sans Flareon which doesn't even have any decent physical attacks, really).
                    Well maybe, but it looks too light to be physical I guess...? Like maybe Fighting is our next best bet. :(

                    Wait no, Leafeon is physical you fool. :(
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                      Hm, maybe clues of it's physical or special specialty speculations can come from the clearer image of the second page that reveals Ninfia here:


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                      On the first image on the left, it looks like a Swift attack... or some sort of new star attack? The middle image looks like some sort of flaming-feather attack.. could that be a new move? Well, whatever they are, they don't appear to be physical moves. So, maybe it's specially based? Of course, the jury is still out on that one.
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                      I can't help but add in my own guess guess as to what stat arrangement Ninfia will have (in order of HP/Atk/Def/SAtk/SDef/Spe of course):
                      60/65/65/95/130/110. I like Doronjo's spread too, but I think it'll make Ninfia play a bit like a faster Umbreon.
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                        The new Eeveelution looks alright, not great, but still cute. But the fakemon art drawn by Rueme is far greater then Ninfia.

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                          If the double helix in the japanese logo is anything to go by, this looks like a combination of eevee and skitty?
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                          It could be a Dual-type Eeveelution? That could possibly be why theyre keeping it a secret, it would be a first and it does sort of look like more than just one type. Even though they've been used previously, to me it looks like Psychic/Fire which coincidentially happens to be the same type combination as Victini. I could be wrong but it is something tht they have never done before for an eeveelution.
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                          It could be a Dual-type Eeveelution? That could possibly be why theyre keeping it a secret, it would be a first and it does sort of look like more than just one type. Even though they've been used previously, to me it looks like Psychic/Fire which coincidentially happens to be the same type combination as Victini. I could be wrong but it is something tht they have never done before for an eeveelution.
                          Yeah I was thinking that too for a little while, but discounting a unique small legendary's typing so soon, idk. At least when Jirachi was a thing there was Metagross the same generation at least etc, while this'd come the generation after which'd make it less unique imo.
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                          If Ninfia is a Flying type, which I'm assuming it might be, then I hope it's more offensive than it is defensive. I'm terrible at making my own stat spread, but something akin to Togekiss would be great; if only the Eevee line had higher stats though instead, specifically 60/65/65. Although, if it had to be a speedy physical hitter, then it better come with some great physical moves. Flareon suffers from this, while Leafeon isn't half bad. Otherwise I don't entirely mind another special Eeveelution.

                          As for it being a dual-type? I highly doubt that. Eeveelutions each represent a single type. That's one thing I'd prefer remain the same.

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                          Okay, Dragon types can be overpowered, but they have their weaknesses. Water types may be an abundance, but not all of them are exactly useful. And sure, Fire, Electric, Ice, Rock, and Poison types may not be some of the most commonly used types in OU. However, none of this calls for a new type whatsoever. The reason why Dark and Steel were introduced in Gen II was because there was an imbalance in the type system. To bring in a new type wouldn't have to do with what's not used in competitive gaming or if there's too many Water-types. It will have to do with expanding the different types and keeping a balance amongst those types, which there already is.

                          I'd love a new type, but I wouldn't say we need to have one. Chances are it won't fix much of these problems more than it'll just give us a new type and shift the system a bit, giving some Pokémon new strengths and/or weaknesses.
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