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Old February 9th, 2005 (12:23 AM).
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On what? NB? I doubt if you'll win against Ice Rabbit.
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We'll just have to see.

Though I won't be doing jack to anyone until my temp ban runs out..
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Old February 9th, 2005 (6:21 PM).
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Nothing, absolutely NOTHING.

Power Abuse I Tell Yee.

I migh have subconciously annoyed someone though I don't know.
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No clue if this was the reason or not, but on Smogon it says...

Stupidity is a bannable offense.

Not sure if that's why, might be.
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Old February 9th, 2005 (8:42 PM).
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ice rabbit, no1 wants u here so get out, seriously u r being rejected, unless u have no life or anywhere else to go just leave. otherwise il lreport u for spamming. to stay on topic: should smeargle have focus band or salac berry?
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Old February 9th, 2005 (11:09 PM).
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Salac is alot more reliable.
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ice rabbit, no1 wants u here so get out, seriously u r being rejected, unless u have no life or anywhere else to go just leave. otherwise il lreport u for spamming. to stay on topic: should smeargle have focus band or salac berry?
Don't overgeneralise you. I can't believe you're even asking. Smeargle should have salac. Spore, sub, drum, pass. Get the speed and the attack. Problem solved.
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Old February 10th, 2005 (4:22 AM).
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Guys, please stay on-topic and refrain from fighting
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Old February 10th, 2005 (5:28 PM).
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Smeargle needs the Salac Berry to pass on if he can't get a Drum in, or, so he can get a quick Spore in, the Focus Band would be pointless if he is to outclassed by everything, and it won't always work.

We shall refrain from arguing now oh almighty Panther admin.
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Not everyone uses Tyranitar and not everyone Spikes either.

Against anyone without TTar or a Spiker it could work out pretty well.

Fighting is still a very common type though but it's predictable.
When your strategy is completely ruined by common elements of the battling system, your strategy is utter Scheiße.

The only good way I can see Sheddy working is in tandem with a Mean-Look-passing Umbreon so that you know the opponent can't attack Shedinja with an effective attack.

Fighting types almost always have an STAB Fighting move and Shadow Ball or HP Ghost. Bye, bye, Sheddy.

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Don't overgeneralise you. I can't believe you're even asking. Smeargle should have salac. Spore, sub, drum, pass. Get the speed and the attack. Problem solved.
Smeargle @ Salac
252 PhAt / 252 Spd / 6 HP
- Belly Drum
- Endure
- Baton Pass
- Return / Spore

I like this one better, since whenever someone sees Smeargle, they'll just trump you with something faster. Endure solves that.
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The strategy revolves around luck dude.... =_='

I think we all KNEW that Fighters have Fighting moves. Hence the FIGHTING TYPE.

And we know they have Ghost moves, so they can HIT THEM.

Doesn't mean a Fighter will screw it up though, some people make their pokemon to overspecialised and leave behind things, such as Ghost coverage.

Ages ago I battle a guy who couldn't touch my Gengar with his overspecialised Miltank, who he was using as a Curselax counter at the time..

Good ol' RSbot eh..
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I think we all KNEW that Fighters have Fighting moves. Hence the FIGHTING TYPE.

And we know they have Ghost moves, so they can HIT THEM.
Take your logic one step further, and notice how Ghost moves will KO Sheddy.

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Doesn't mean a Fighter will screw it up though, some people make their pokemon to overspecialised and leave behind things, such as Ghost coverage.

Ages ago I battle a guy who couldn't touch my Gengar with his overspecialised Miltank, who he was using as a Curselax counter at the time..
Fighting types are one of the following (almost always):
> choice banded
> sub-puncher
> reversal user

All of the above have Ghost type moves. Quelle surprise.

Notice how Miltank is a Normal type. It often has similar limitations as Blissey (i.e. Seismic Toss is the only damage-dealing move). Cursetank is also a common variation, which can't hit Gengar, either. What was your point?
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Cursetank hits Gengar you wank.

SHADOW BALL.

And most Normal types can be played as Fighters, that's why I used Mil as an example.

Cursetanks set should be: CURSE/RETURN/SHADOW BALL/MILK DRINK

Anything else is not worth using.

If you know the opponent will kill Sheddy you switch out.

And the point of it is to transform Sheddy into a Normal type, giving him one weakness, and it ain't Ghost.
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Cursetank hits Gengar you wank. Now that's not very nice...

SHADOW BALL.

And most Normal types can be played as Fighters, that's why I used Mil as an example.

Cursetanks set should be: CURSE/RETURN/SHADOW BALL/MILK DRINK

Anything else is not worth using.

If you know the opponent will kill Sheddy you switch out. I think we should just face it, that shedinja is not useable in competive battles. I mean, this gives them a free sub or set up or attack, you know?

And the point of it is to transform Sheddy into a Normal type, giving him one weakness, and it ain't Ghost.Um, which is fighting, which from your earlier point, fighting pokemon screw over. Right?
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It's not a competitive team, and I know the consequences of having to swap Sheddy out.
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Cursetank hits Gengar you wank.
Cursetank @ Lefties
(EVs may vary, some go for some special defence, some go all-out in physical defence.)
+ PhDf - SpDf
Body Slam / Return
Curse
Milk Drink
Heal Bell

Tell me where Shadow Ball goes so you don't get raped by Toxic. This is the standard set, otherwise, you use Curselax. Since Curselax is obviously better, unless you need or want Heal Bell.

Now who's the wank?
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Isn't this thing going a bit off topic? This thread was about Shedninja. I don't want to see Kirby's thread get spoiled.
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Isn't this thing going a bit off topic? This thread was about Shedninja. I don't want to see Kirby's thread get spoiled.
T'is too late for that. It was spoiled when he made it.

Luck does not constitute strategy.
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I know that, but I think luck is a factor for fun teams.

Now I'm not a mod or anything, but couldn't we just stop the discussion?
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it wasnt spolied when i made it, and if u feel that way then dont post in my thread. back to shedinja, shedinja is good esp if u know ur opponent has no way of damaging u even tho they use Ou pokemon like starmie/
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Standard Miltank set has Shadow Ball > Heal Bell.
No one gives a **** about Toxic either.

ON TOPIC NOW:

It is good when Shedinja comes across pokemon that can't hurt him like Starmie, against Kyogre without Ancient Power, Sheddy wins, Mewtwo without Flamthrower? GO SHEDDY.
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Whoever withdrew Pokémon that can't hit Sheninja!
Whoever sent out Pokémon that can hit Shedinja!
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Whoever withdrew Pokémon that can't hit Sheninja!
Whoever sent out Pokémon that can hit Shedinja!

exactly

i would give kirby credit though
his sets are very interesting
and i give him props for that
however they are based far too much on luck and that is not good.Infact,that is out right bad.It lacks the ability to give a fully thought out method of attack and defense, which is why many off us here [hellish hades, ice rabbit <- nice username etc] have condoned its use..As for them being overly negative that is there choice and if they don't wish to change, you need to ignore them.Not much thinking required there.



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Cursetank @ Lefties
(EVs may vary, some go for some special defence, some go all-out in physical defence.)
+ PhDf - SpDf
Body Slam / Return
Curse
Milk Drink
Heal Bell
I disagree most cursetanks use shadow ball and then avoid status like mad.Some even opt for rest over milk drink..though i don't care for the idea.
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Sheddy is not useable in competitive battles for all practical purposes.
here are some of the nice things that kill it -
Flying
Rock
Ghost
Fire
Dark
Spikes
Sandstorm
Hail
Leech Seed
Poison aliment
Burn
Confusion damage
Curse (ghost-type)
Double-Edge recoil
Future Sight
Doom Desire
Struggle (both being hit by Struggle, and Struggle recoil)


If u change it to normal type then it would still be a staggering 13 beautiful ways to faint it quickly.
honestly does that seem practical?
mind u, i do understand that many of those means are very rarely used but still, they are there.
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I personally think we can rule out Hail damage, though he is still easily killed.

Just whip out TTar and it's night night.

Personally, I like the idea, and I like playing with luck, which explains why I like Kirbys ideas, but this particular one will have trouble executing properly due to a humoungous amount of TTars on peoples teams.

Boahtar has basically overcome the standard set, I battled a fella called Cromat before and he said he hates those "random" DDTar's...

Which proved to me that Boahtar has taken over, and is too common to be useable on a team where Tyranitar is basically the Devil to.
 

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