Help in Hail Team

Started by JayTheKing March 31st, 2013 8:53 AM
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Valla aka Kitsune Kingdom
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Posted October 7th, 2017
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11.3 Years
Abomasnow/Adamant
Leftovers
EV:188 HP 252 ATK 68 Sp
-Wood Hammer
-Ice Shard
-Leech seed
-Protect

Heatran/Calm/Flah Fire
Air Balloon
EV:252 HP 252 Sp.Def 4 Sp
-Roar
-Lava Plume
-Earth Power
-Stealth Rock

Alakazam/Timid/Magic Guard
Choice Scarf
EV:252 Sp.Atk 4 Sp.Def 252 Sp
-Grass Knot
-Psychic
-Shadow Ball
-Hidden Power Fire

Kyurem B/Lonely/Terravolt
Choice Scarf
Ev:92 HP 208 Sp.Atk 208 Sp
-Blizzard
-Outrage
-Fusion Bolt
-Focus Blast

Conkeldur/Adamant/Iron Fist
Leftovers
EV:120 HP 252 ATK 136 Sp
-Bulk Up
-Mach Punch
-Drain Punch
-Ice Punch

Tentacruel/Calm/Liquid Ooze
Black Sludge
EV:236 Def 252 Sp.Def 20 Sp
-Protect
-Rapid Spin
-Toxic Spikes
-Scald


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PlatinumDude

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Age 29
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Canada
Seen July 31st, 2020
Posted May 30th, 2020
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12.7 Years
Heatran should be using Leftovers as the item; considering that it will be passively taking damage from the hail Abomasnow brings, it helps to cancel the passive damage. To reduce the amount of damage Heatran takes from Stealth Rock, use 248 HP/252 SDef/8 Spe.

Alakazam is better off using Focus Blast over Grass Knot so that it can hit Tyranitar harder than Grass Knot would.

What's the point of using Lonely on Kyurem-B if you're not investing in Attack?:
-Substitute
-Dragon Claw/Blizzard
-Fusion Bolt
-Blizzard/Roost/Hidden Power (Fire)
Nature: Lonely/Adaman
EVs: 56 HP/216 Atk/236 Spe
Item: Leftovers

or
-Substitute
-Dragon Tail
-Roost
-Hone Claws/Blizzard
Nature: Careful/Sassy
EVs: 252 HP/64 Def/136 SDef/56 Spe
Item: Leftovers

Rain Dish is still the preferred ability on Tentacruel so it can mooch off of any potential perms-rain that Politoed brings.

Male
Valla aka Kitsune Kingdom
Seen July 20th, 2021
Posted October 7th, 2017
943 posts
11.3 Years
Heatran should be using Leftovers as the item; considering that it will be passively taking damage from the hail Abomasnow brings, it helps to cancel the passive damage. To reduce the amount of damage Heatran takes from Stealth Rock, use 248 HP/252 SDef/8 Spe.

Alakazam is better off using Focus Blast over Grass Knot so that it can hit Tyranitar harder than Grass Knot would.

What's the point of using Lonely on Kyurem-B if you're not investing in Attack?:
-Substitute
-Dragon Claw/Blizzard
-Fusion Bolt
-Blizzard/Roost/Hidden Power (Fire)
Nature: Lonely/Adaman
EVs: 56 HP/216 Atk/236 Spe
Item: Leftovers

or
-Substitute
-Dragon Tail
-Roost
-Hone Claws/Blizzard
Nature: Careful/Sassy
EVs: 252 HP/64 Def/136 SDef/56 Spe
Item: Leftovers

Rain Dish is still the preferred ability on Tentacruel so it can mooch off of any potential perms-rain that Politoed brings.
I am using Air Balloon on Heatran so he can avoid upcoming earthquakes or ground moves in general
And i am running mix on kyurem thats why lonely so i wont have to invest anything on atk


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Maryland
Seen November 10th, 2014
Posted October 22nd, 2014
270 posts
12 Years
Air balloon is not bad; however, on Heatran Leftovers is the way to go. Heatran is going to be taking a lot of damage over time from entry hazards + weather. Using leftovers is a way to help mitigate the damage and allow your Heatran to last longer in the battle.
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PlatinumDude

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Age 29
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Canada
Seen July 31st, 2020
Posted May 30th, 2020
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I am using Air Balloon on Heatran so he can avoid upcoming earthquakes or ground moves in general
And i am running mix on kyurem thats why lonely so i wont have to invest anything on atk
Even if Kyurem-B goes mixed, you're still better off investing in Attack to give Dragon Claw/Fusion Bolt more power. Blizzard still hurts a lot, even if it comes from an uninvested base 120 Special Attack. Even though Kyurem-B's physical movepool is shallow, it still should stick to an all- physical set or a physically based mixed set. Investing in Attack with a +Atk nature gives Kyurem a lot of power to even severely damage physical walls.