Chit-Chat "L'art pour l'art" - DCC Page 22

Started by Fairy May 7th, 2013 4:47 PM
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Fairy

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Just a quick question, where can I post remixes of game soundtracks? I made a bunch of those and I don't think it would do justice to put them on my gallery thread.
Oh, Culture & Media has a Creative Media Showcase Thread! If you're not sure, LORD ANTE is definitely the guy to ask.

If you want to post them in your gallery too though, I'll allow it. :)
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One of these days I'd like to redo my gallery. I love it, don't get me wrong, but the coding is outdated and I've learned a lot more since then. It's almost a year old now! Besides, pink is great and all, but idk man like what if I just feel like purple instead?

Kayla I might commission you to do another gorgeous header for me, just like way back when. :3

It's a year old already? I remember you starting it when I just joined PC, haha.

My gallery could really use some CSS but I'm just too lazy to make some good CSS. I don't even collect all my pieces in my first post, just the fakes I use in my dex. Maybe I should reorganize that a bit.

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It's a year old already? I remember you starting it when I just joined PC, haha.

My gallery could really use some CSS but I'm just too lazy to make some good CSS. I don't even collect all my pieces in my first post, just the fakes I use in my dex. Maybe I should reorganize that a bit.
Well technically it's older than that! I've held a gallery here since I was promoted, so 2013? But yeah you joined in August and my gallery was made in August, making it a month shy of a year now. Gosh how time flies.

Luckily there's no right or wrong way to run a gallery. Anything that can work does work! Though if you ever want a helping hand with some coding, you can always come to me! :>
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Well technically it's older than that! I've held a gallery here since I was promoted, so 2013? But yeah you joined in August and my gallery was made in August, making it a month shy of a year now. Gosh how time flies.

Luckily there's no right or wrong way to run a gallery. Anything that can work does work! Though if you ever want a helping hand with some coding, you can always come to me! :>
I still feel like I've just joined this place, haha. I remember me joining because I was constantly sick and in my boredom started making sprites again.

Thanks, haha, I'll think I'll do fine myself. Setting up in the RPT has learned me some CSS, but if I ever need something super pretty, I'll ask you, haha.

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For me, its strange. I've just rejoined but I remember having a gallery before I left waaay back in 2010/11 and watching artists like Dukey create the most amazing tags. Now there's a new wave of amazing artists and I'm still sub-par. Its a little disheartening sometimes haha.

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I know how you feel. Compared to some members I'm still a little fledgling! *looks as Aiden* A&D has such a longer history than I do, and it's incredible looking through the galleries of some of its most veteran members.

But I'm pretty happy you decided to join and start spriting again, no matter when it happened! n_n

@Aiden; don't worry, I once took a five year long break from art and, when I finally got back into it, I found that all I had lost was my hand steadiness and patience lol. It's something that never truly leaves you, so as long as you're committed to improve, it'll happen. Art is a labor of love.
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The kinds of things being created before were certainly varied. There was a lot of activity back in the day, and I'm confident it will be again, it just needs that push!

@Fairy that's reassuring to know. But I certainly don't intend to drop doing anything for nearly that long. I have a gallery to uphold! :)

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One of these days I'd like to redo my gallery. I love it, don't get me wrong, but the coding is outdated and I've learned a lot more since then. It's almost a year old now! Besides, pink is great and all, but idk man like what if I just feel like purple instead?

Kayla I might commission you to do another gorgeous header for me, just like way back when. :3
a header? i dont remember LOL. it's been so long since i've made stuff for other people lol. i would love to open a css or a profile shop on here, but i would be worried i wouldn't be able to finish them right away; i need to redesign my profile again.

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Man I'm so happy things are picking up here in the A&D right when I decided to check out PC again. Since I've been home and had a real adult job I've been starved for art conversation.

I mean, I talk about things like that at work, like which colors should we use on this cake or should we put the bow here and the text here, but working under a 40+ year pro they already have it figured out most of the time. That's a good thing in that we are never lost, but in the rush of wedding season there's not a lot of room for exploration.

BUT WEDDING SEASON IS OVER THIS WEEK AND I GET A WEEK LONG VACATION YEAHHHH




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Fairy

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a header? i dont remember LOL. it's been so long since i've made stuff for other people lol. i would love to open a css or a profile shop on here, but i would be worried i wouldn't be able to finish them right away; i need to redesign my profile again.
Yup! Waaaaay back when before I was promoted you made me the most awesome header for my first gallery. It was pink and gorgeous and had a Blissey I think! I'll post a link if I find it. I remember being so grateful cause no one had ever made anything so nice for me before. <3

I think you should! I want to integrate more diverse kinds of art in A&D, and include things like CSS and profile designs. One of these days you should take the leap; I bet you'd make a lot of people really happy.

Man I'm so happy things are picking up here in the A&D right when I decided to check out PC again. Since I've been home and had a real adult job I've been starved for art conversation.

I mean, I talk about things like that at work, like which colors should we use on this cake or should we put the bow here and the text here, but working under a 40+ year pro they already have it figured out most of the time. That's a good thing in that we are never lost, but in the rush of wedding season there's not a lot of room for exploration.

BUT WEDDING SEASON IS OVER THIS WEEK AND I GET A WEEK LONG VACATION YEAHHHH
I agree! We were in a lull for a while there but lately things are really picking up. It's so nice to actually have people here I can call my regulars cause honestly this section would be nothing without you guys.

Man, I'd love to learn how to decorate cakes. It looks so awesome but it seems like it would take a lot of patience and practice to be any good. I can do little things like piping and some basic fondant work, but that's about it. I once made a dolphin cake for a friend, and oh man that was a project lol.
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I agree! We were in a lull for a while there but lately things are really picking up. It's so nice to actually have people here I can call my regulars cause honestly this section would be nothing without you guys.

Man, I'd love to learn how to decorate cakes. It looks so awesome but it seems like it would take a lot of patience and practice to be any good. I can do little things like piping and some basic fondant work, but that's about it. I once made a dolphin cake for a friend, and oh man that was a project lol.
haha, what can I say about decorating cakes? I guess I can say it took patience, but I can't really give you the best gauge on how to learn it or how long it takes, because doing it as your job for 8 - 12 hours starting from scratch really changes the way you learn it. I learned by doing it over and over on cakes and redoing it if it wasn't up to par. It's hard to get an opportunity to be better at icing cakes or putting icing flowers on it because you've literally got 100 orders that day. Trial and learning by fire, it works! But it is stressful...

The thing I still can't do very well is scroll work with a piping bag, in terms of doing s and c scrolls or writing script. I could always try but being able to measure out the writing to be center + customer's name is a lot of trial and error that's hard to take off so I haven't practiced yet. I know basic fondant things now as my job was to do the etc. work which usually included easy fondant that I struggled with, but now we have a woman who is super at fondant so I never have to do it again. (YAY.)

I think the hardest thing to learn is how to hold and grip your bag. It's so awkward at first, but if you can get the grip and squeeze right, it's easier to do more things. That is the one that takes the most practice because you just literally have to build up those muscles.




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Oh wow, that sounds really intense! Most of what I know now did come from trial and error, but it was of my own accord so the environment was low stress. I couldn't imagine doing anything with cake under pressure; I'd be a damn disaster, lol. Sounds like the best way to go about it is to work in a bakery though. The tools I have are so limited (and a little pathetic) that I'd never get anywhere unless I just jumped right in and work my way up to decorator.

I'm also kind of a crappy baker? Like there's a chance the cake will look decent but no promises that it'll taste any good lol. So right now it doesn't make much sense for me to practice on my own since the results might not even be edible. And I'm paying for ingredients and tools and everything so it's a little silly for me to just decorate cakes and toss them.
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Yup! Waaaaay back when before I was promoted you made me the most awesome header for my first gallery. It was pink and gorgeous and had a Blissey I think! I'll post a link if I find it. I remember being so grateful cause no one had ever made anything so nice for me before. <3

I think you should! I want to integrate more diverse kinds of art in A&D, and include things like CSS and profile designs. One of these days you should take the leap; I bet you'd make a lot of people really happy.




I agree! We were in a lull for a while there but lately things are really picking up. It's so nice to actually have people here I can call my regulars cause honestly this section would be nothing without you guys.

Man, I'd love to learn how to decorate cakes. It looks so awesome but it seems like it would take a lot of patience and practice to be any good. I can do little things like piping and some basic fondant work, but that's about it. I once made a dolphin cake for a friend, and oh man that was a project lol.
omg i probably have it someone in my documents on my old computer or i could find it posted in one of my old galleries.
well i love designing profiles. it's a lot of fun! plus i know how to add text to animated gifs now so it would be good to do that for profiles.
yeah a css and a profile shop would be great ^_^.

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Oh wow, that sounds really intense! Most of what I know now did come from trial and error, but it was of my own accord so the environment was low stress. I couldn't imagine doing anything with cake under pressure; I'd be a damn disaster, lol. Sounds like the best way to go about it is to work in a bakery though. The tools I have are so limited (and a little pathetic) that I'd never get anywhere unless I just jumped right in and work my way up to decorator.

I'm also kind of a crappy baker? Like there's a chance the cake will look decent but no promises that it'll taste any good lol. So right now it doesn't make much sense for me to practice on my own since the results might not even be edible. And I'm paying for ingredients and tools and everything so it's a little silly for me to just decorate cakes and toss them.
Yeah, working at a bakery is the best way to learn. HOWEVER, not all bakeries are alike! Ours is pretty high stress, and there are some that are even more people and demand, but on the flip side there are much smaller ones or less stress ones. A lot of people who have come into work and ended up quitting came from a smaller bakery, or a walmart bakery and been alarmed by the pace and demand of ours considering how physically small and how few people we had. So if you wanted to work at one just check them out and see what the demand is usually like. However, some bakeries like walmart are low demand BECAUSE they are poor quality, so you wouldn't learn too much that way.

I'm not sure how it is everywhere else, but I don't bake the cakes at all! We have actual bakers one one half, and decorators on the other. There are floaters who do both, but for us it's normal that a decorator doesn't deal with baking, besides being able to tell if a cake taste/looks/feels right when we set them up. I've dropped some sugar cookies on loan because I am the etc. (I have something to admit...my job title is not actually cake artist, it's cake artist support. I guess I'd call it a jr decorator, but I'll get loaned to the bakers for dishes/stacking cooled cakes if they're low staffed.) So I don't think you have to worry about actually baking to be a decorator! We have a few people who will just order blank cakes for them to decorate if they are event planners and such.

You can also order cake dummies, that are just circle styrofoam that doesn't shed. If you put a small weight on top of those to hold them down while you ice them, as long as you nail them to a board you can decorate them and move them, and just scrape off the icing to do it again. That's how my co-worker learned how to do it at first workplace, I just got thrown into doing full cakes from the start. The steepest cost is the materials. When you're learning you should just use white, and use a canvas piping bag so you can wash it out instead of throwing away the plastic ones.




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Not sure I'd be any good as a cake artist, though it's certainly something I wouldn't mind trying one time XD

Though I think I'll stick to what I do right now, which is mostly wiring electronics and making graphics that really need improvement.

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um i dont think i would want to do cake design, because i would end up eating everything lol. i'll just stick to photoshop!

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You can also order cake dummies, that are just circle styrofoam that doesn't shed. If you put a small weight on top of those to hold them down while you ice them, as long as you nail them to a board you can decorate them and move them, and just scrape off the icing to do it again. That's how my co-worker learned how to do it at first workplace, I just got thrown into doing full cakes from the start. The steepest cost is the materials. When you're learning you should just use white, and use a canvas piping bag so you can wash it out instead of throwing away the plastic ones.
You know what? I'm going to do it. I'm going to order a few of those things, crack into my mother in law's gear (she's got a much nicer set than I do, like those spinning circle plates and everything!-- I'm still piping out of Ziploc bags with the tips trimmed lmao), and just go for it. If I feel like I get a grasp on it, then maybe I'll look at some local bakeries. Worst case I'll have a bunch of fun!

When I get everything I'll posts some pics! :))
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Never been a good cake decorator. probably because I've only ever tried once and failed horribly

Anyway, was wondering if I could get opinions on this Primal Groudon semi-pixel over. Made a couple of modifications to the outline. Doing it as part of a suggestion for GPX+.


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You know what? I'm going to do it. I'm going to order a few of those things, crack into my mother in law's gear (she's got a much nicer set than I do, like those spinning circle plates and everything!-- I'm still piping out of Ziploc bags with the tips trimmed lmao), and just go for it. If I feel like I get a grasp on it, then maybe I'll look at some local bakeries. Worst case I'll have a bunch of fun!

When I get everything I'll posts some pics! :))
Please do! That's a good attitude to have and it totally means you're gonna have a blast! I look forward to seeing some lovely cake designs ;)

Never been a good cake decorator. probably because I've only ever tried once and failed horribly

Anyway, was wondering if I could get opinions on this Primal Groudon semi-pixel over. Made a couple of modifications to the outline. Doing it as part of a suggestion for GPX+.
I would say make the primal lines (the yellow) thinner. I know the lines are normally quite thick, but in this case it kinda distorts the quality of the sprite. That and the claws need a black outline/something to define them. They look too big, and a mess at the moment, where they extend into the hand. Try and get rid off those white lines, or make them equal and fit. Also try and use some stronger contrast between the light areas and the shading. I can just about see it, but it should be more present. Right now Groudon is quite flat. Is that helpful to you?

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Please do! That's a good attitude to have and it totally means you're gonna have a blast! I look forward to seeing some lovely cake designs ;)



I would say make the primal lines (the yellow) thinner. I know the lines are normally quite thick, but in this case it kinda distorts the quality of the sprite. That and the claws need a black outline/something to define them. They look too big, and a mess at the moment, where they extend into the hand. Try and get rid off those white lines, or make them equal and fit. Also try and use some stronger contrast between the light areas and the shading. I can just about see it, but it should be more present. Right now Groudon is quite flat. Is that helpful to you?
Hey, thanks dude. I tried thinning out the lines and adding more shading. Unfortunately, PG's glowing lines doesn't really allow for that much shading, so I had to kind of go against its design.



Should I try making the shades a bit darker?


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Hey, thanks dude. I tried thinning out the lines and adding more shading. Unfortunately, PG's glowing lines doesn't really allow for that much shading, so I had to kind of go against its design.



Should I try making the shades a bit darker?
First things first the hands look so much better. A simple bit of definition really improved it. I would say for the shading, you need to look at the red parts of PG. The shading on the grey of his underbelly is fine now, just try and darken the other parts, and it'll be much better :)

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First things first the hands look so much better. A simple bit of definition really improved it. I would say for the shading, you need to look at the red parts of PG. The shading on the grey of his underbelly is fine now, just try and darken the other parts, and it'll be much better :)
Thanks again, dude. Hopefully this should be my final edit, haha.



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Let's compare!
First piece:


Updated piece:


I think that speaks for itself, don't you? :D

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That's a nice looking sprite you've got there! My advice, watch your pillow shading. There's no clear, defined source of lighting that I can tell. There's also 29 colors present, not the 23 you have in your palette, which is a lot for a sprite anyway. I don't know if you have size/color restrictions, though if this is for GPX I imagine there is, it's definitely something you want to be mindful of.
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