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Old October 25th, 2013 (12:27 PM).
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I never cared about any shipping till now in the series nor do I care about most now. But, after watching those two episodes, I ship ash x serena.

do the people who make the pokemon anime actually drop the various shipping hints because they're aware of the thousands of shipping fans or is it just a coincidence? I know kishi and hiro do it intentionally so that they keep their shipper fans happy in naruto and fairy tail but....pokemon? I didn't think it'd be a series where I'd see the creators actively push any ships.
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    Well I mean Misty really was the love interest for her tenure. May and Drew were definitely an item. Serena and Ash are certainly being teased. Those are the in-yo-face ones afaik; there's a whole bunch of more subtextual probably-intentional teases. And then there's stuff people just want to see. So yeah, there's almost always ship tease happening in Pokemon.
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    Old October 25th, 2013 (3:12 PM).
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      The only saga where shipping seemed kinda downplayed was Best Wishes. Of course Negaishipping never got off the ground, and Wishfulshippers went crazy over every little thing, like the low angle that was used when Iris painted Cilan's face, hiding behind him, or her calling him a "pain that's fun to be around." CafeMocha and BestWishes were clearly the more popular though.

      I don't see why they seemed to bring back shipping in full force though. Serena having a thing for Ash, Bonnie looking for a wife for her bro, etc.
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        The first Ash X Serena Amv I found-



        I liked Y 's(Serena's Pokespe Counterpart) aggressive & Strong personality.
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        I hope Serena's also have strong & aggressive personality .
        I don't her to be girly like Dawn .
        After all , Most people like Aggressive girl who also has the Grace of a Lady .
        That Why girls like Hinagiku Katsura (Hayate no gotoku) are super popular.
        Well , Serena did shown aggressiveness when she attack her mother's Flectchling and shown a temper toward her mother after the Rhyhorn trainer .
        I hope that Aggressiveness doesn't disappear .
        It would be hilarious if Serena punch Ash when he failed to remember her Or mistook her for somebody else Or call her by an embarrassing nickname. __________________
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          It would be hilarious if Serena punch Ash when he failed to remember her Or mistook her for somebody else Or call her by an embarrassing nickname.
          Lol this. I could totally see this as a habit (though Serena doesn't look like she has many embarrassing secrets) and so promote a bit of shipping.

          I don't really hope to see more shipping but I can see me going crazy about it if I'm getting inspired to watch the series. After Hoenn I suppose they made it a more steady approach and so the speculation potentially doubled (just my opinion) and less concrete. Perhaps that'll change~

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          Old October 28th, 2013 (6:30 AM). Edited October 28th, 2013 by Famon.
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            As I know , The current ''Ash Shipping'' need to be handle differently because Ash from now and Ash from 15 year ago is totally different .
            Current Ash is more innocent , kind , dense & gentle while the old Ash was arrogant , cooky , rude , egoistic , laid-back and mischievous.
            So
            New running gag of the series-

            - 1) Serena tries to make a move on Ash but get friendzoned everytime .

            -2) Serena enter in a ''Jealous Mode'' whenever a girl interested in Ash or He compliment a girl .In that mode , Her body emit Dark Aura , her face become terrifying and she smash whatever in front of her comically.

            -3) If She & Ash does get in romantic situation , she ruined it herself due to her shyness .

            I believe anyone who watch Special A knows What I meant .
            Surprisingly , Ash current personality is similar to the ''Female protagonist'' of the series . (Expect her super strength & agility)
            Both of them are thickheaded and too optimistic.
            For those who haven't watch special A-
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            Old October 29th, 2013 (11:02 PM). Edited October 30th, 2013 by ZeroX5.
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              DiodeShipping

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              AmourShipping (this seems like it might be the name in the end):

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              Man both of them seem to be all over being with Ash. Not to mention the opening. When all of them are touching him.





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              Hmm, perhaps you're right on that. But maybe Serena will take on part of that role as she gets to know him as he is now? Or maybe Bonnie will as she starts to see him even more as a brother- she's shown that behaviour with Clemont already.
              I don't know, I mean usually how characters are presented initially is pretty indicative of how they'll view him throughout the majority of the series. Brock, Max, May, Dawn, Clemont, and Bonnie where/are all respective of Ash from the start.

              Misty and Iris where the only ones to really criticize him at every turn initially, and would compliment him once in a blue moon. If they did, it was towards the end of their respective series. Though, I guess you could argue that this was when they started to feel better about themselves...given both seemed to have insecurities, probably had a very close-minded way of thinking ("battling at type disadvantage = always BAD!") given they learned through Gym/School, and because they were somewhat expies of each other at the start of the series. Also probably because they had the worst initial impressions of him than anyone else.

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              Tbh Bonnie might develop idol-crushes on both Ash and Serena. Like, she wants them to be together as friends and she loves them a lot with that childlike innocence? idk
              Bonnie saying "Come on Ash. We're friends now and friends stay together!" when Ash said he didn't really need guidance to the next gym was absolutely ADORABLE.
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              Old October 30th, 2013 (12:18 AM). Edited October 31st, 2013 by Famon.
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                Another good Ash X Serena Amv !!!
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                  I thought of something earlier today but I completely forgot what it was...

                  Well, what if Bonnie is all like, "No Ash, only Clemont can be with Serena!"? Isn't Bonnie trying to find a wife for Clemont (even though Clemont is like 10)? Even if that doesn't happen, I'm sure that Ash will probably be oblivious as always, that's something that I don't see changing for this series.

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                    If the Ash X Serena shippers are trying to use them knowing each other as kids as "evidence" for a relationship, don't. It's been proven that if you know a person when you're children, you're less likely to have a romantic relationship later in life.
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                      Has that actually been proven? Source that claim cause I want to see that study. tbh I think it depends more on the people. And as far as I can tell, they were holding hands in the flashback? idk. who cares that aint my ship lol

                      Bonnie's implied gag hasn't shown up yet, but they haven't found any women either. I'm kind of excited for Bonnie being a shipper of many things, but I also stand by that she wants a sister for herself more than a wife for Clemmy.

                      I feel like this group could go a different way though? Like as they become more of a family, they'll get used to each other and be fine with arguing or calling each other out. I mean there's a friendship there and probably will be a pretty strong one but those things come with that man. I'd just really like so see that.

                      also i posted elsewhere re ash finding out clemont is lumiose gym leader:
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                      that would be really lovely but probably what's going to happen is Clemont will be like "uh actually... I'm the gym leader" and Ash will be like "WHAT no way! That's super cool now let's battle!" because pokéani ( ̄▽ ̄;)
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                        Has that actually been proven? Source that claim cause I want to see that study. tbh I think it depends more on the people. And as far as I can tell, they were holding hands in the flashback? idk. who cares that aint my ship lol

                        Bonnie's implied gag hasn't shown up yet, but they haven't found any women either. I'm kind of excited for Bonnie being a shipper of many things, but I also stand by that she wants a sister for herself more than a wife for Clemmy.

                        I feel like this group could go a different way though? Like as they become more of a family, they'll get used to each other and be fine with arguing or calling each other out. I mean there's a friendship there and probably will be a pretty strong one but those things come with that man. I'd just really like so see that.

                        also i posted elsewhere re ash finding out clemont is lumiose gym leader:
                        I thought I read it somewhere once...bah! I can't find it. Ah well. IDC too much, I just find Serena being a childhood friend a stupid plot element. But hey, they took a risk.

                        BTW, I haven't seen episode 3 yet. How'd their backstory go down?
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                        I love the dynamic of the group so far a lot! Clemont and Ash seem like they've got great chemistry, with Ash going "whoa, science is so cool" and Clemont going "whoa, Ash is so inspiring", and Anna, maybe your scenario there isn't that far-fetched, I mean, Ash was pretty angry about the way he got kicked out of the Gym in the first episode, so one can only hope, right? Plus, they already seem such good friends already, and are somewhat similar I think, Clemont's involvment with the Lumiose Gym seems like the perfect (and actually only) conflict that may arise between them. Unless Serena would be a potential love interest for both, but I doubt Clemont would be interested in her -- though maybe Bonnie would want her as his wife, hehe, and Ash will probably be the same oblivious Ash we're used to by now.

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                          I hope Ash & Serena first meeting will be like this-




                          After all ,
                          It does seem like Writer trying to make Ash's personality like Goku (DBZ) !!!
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                            I don't know. I guess Serena x Ash should have gotten its hopes by now. I'm kinda disappointed they haven't met in the first 4 episodes tbh. Oh well, the more the suspense the better! :P
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                            My favorite Pokeshipping is the one between Ash and May, Advanceshipping. I really like the Ash x Misty relationship though. I think with the japan anime that one is called SatoKasu. I'm still new to the term shipping so there is a lot that I didn't know. My friend EternallyAnna told me about them and I think that it's interesting. I think Ash and Serena or Clermont and Serena may be a thing in XY.

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                              Kind a disappointed to see Serena acting so formal !
                              Ya she didn't saw Ash for long time so she had to be formal.

                              But I hope all the formality of Serena will end in next episode and She will start acting like a childhood friend from XY 007 !

                              I wonder if Ash & Serena relationship will be like Tonio & Alice (Pokemon Movie 10 : Darkai)
                              They are childhood friend .
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                                  I didn't feel like she was that formal? I mean she was being respectful,especially due to the situation, but she was certainly beginning to get in his face about it when she tried to say something.

                                  this is getting pushed rlly hard innit
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                                  I feel that Ash x Serena is being pushed by the writers to be the main canon or something, but that's up for another debate.
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                                    I mean they're so pushing it hard but I wonder how they're going to deal with it and what direction they'll go in. Like I can see- I don't remember who said but- like if it does end up Clemont/Serena at the end and Ash goes off on his own that would work well? Or will she just eventually get over him or grow out of this crush or???

                                    Imagine if Ash legit promised to marry her as a kid accidentally or something. Way to go DragonBall on us.

                                    I'm also going to make a point that I've been making since I saw the 006 preview: Clemont has created a big cannon that shoots sticky webs for Ash.
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                                    I'm also going to make a point that I've been making since I saw the 006 preview: Clemont has created a big cannon that shoots sticky webs for Ash.
                                    Wait, I don't get it what's the point...OOOH, NOW I GET IT.
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                                      Since Serena is Ash's childhood friend , I think she should be unaffected by most of Ash usual Characteristic because she already familiar with it.
                                      Like Ash's Kindness , his recklessness , his cookie attitude , his love for Pokemon and his determination.
                                      Instate , Serena should explain Ash's personality to Clemont & Bonnie like how Brock use to explain Ash's personality to newer traveling companion .
                                      Honestly , Serena should act like how Misty (Or any other old friend) would act if she return as a traveling companion !
                                      Serena should only react to the change's Ash had in her absence.
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                                      It would cool if there are mini-flashback everytime Serena explain Ash's personality to Clemont & Bonnie !
                                      Plus , I hope Serena reveal some of Ash's talent that haven't been reveal in show.
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                                        Honestly, I'd like to see her in more of an idealist role. She hasn't seen Ash in a long time and she seems to have built him up in her mind when he's grown and matured without her, probably in different ways than she'd expect. I'd like her to be surprised by his characteristics and see her trying to reconcile reality with her fantasy.
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                                        Old November 11th, 2013 (2:26 AM). Edited November 11th, 2013 by Famon.
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                                          I wonder if Ash & Serena did all the typical Childhood friend Anime stuff . Like

                                          -Bathing together

                                          -Sleeping together

                                          -Holding hand most of the time

                                          -Serena being tease by other as ''Ash's Bride'' while Ash wonder what Bride mean!

                                          -Promising to marry each other in future .

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