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Old February 12th, 2005 (12:46 PM). Edited February 12th, 2005 by kirby00.
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did you know that if you transform while wearing a choice band, it adds on to the attack of the pokemon u transform into. i used smeargle and transformed into salamence, and my smeargle had 459 attack! just imagine wut smeargle would have if it transforms into a cb medicham! u can also assist a transform, and you all know what i know and luv about assist!
im thinking of having a cb assist transform team
furret: assist @ cb. max speed, max def evs, jolly nature
persian: assist @ cb: max speed and sp def, +speed - sp a nature
hypno: assist @ cb: 129 def, 129 sp def and max hp evs, +def - sp a nature
meowth: assist @ cb: max speed and attack evs, +speed - sp a nature
smeargle: assist @ cb: max speed and def evs, +speed - sp a nature
delcatty: assist @ cb: max speed and def evs, +speed - sp a nature
THAT WAS FOR 1VS1
also maybe i should put mew in their for its higher speed, inorder to transform faster

THIS IS FOR 2VS2

smeargle: @ cb transform,spore (if i use spore, ill switch out)

ninjasK: protect, sub, sdance, bp

medicham: @ salac: (has + def evs so it can take 1 hit and get a boost for reversal) reversal, sball, endure, hp rock

ditto: @cb: transform

mew: @ cb: transform, shadow ball, return, hp flying

marrowak: @ thick club: eq (for accuracy), hp ghost, aa, rslide
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Old February 12th, 2005 (1:11 PM).
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i tried using transfroming with smeargle after using thick club, but the thick club doesnt really help it. i guess only the items that the pokemon transforming can get a boost out of are items that all automatically give boosts to: ie ditto using metal powder means altho it isnt a ditto anymore, the defs still get passed on, choice band on any pokemon able to transform, or a berry if u dont lose 3/4 before u transform. (if u get the boost, and then transform, the boost is lost)
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You can transform items?

Weird. Could work though.

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Old February 12th, 2005 (8:40 PM).
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Lion Heart, delete one of your posts. o.o;

Whoa, cool. I never would've thought it'd be possible to transform items. XD
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Old February 12th, 2005 (9:15 PM).
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Smeargle Transforms then dies. Or dies.
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Old February 12th, 2005 (9:33 PM).
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Or you stfu up and find some one else to annoy.

Thanks for deleting my post lol.

I clicked ok then noticed I was at 399 so I write that in and click ok again.

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Old February 13th, 2005 (3:23 AM).
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Um. This interesting, and it could work if you used something like mew. However, the assist thing, I must say again, is stupid and leaves it highly to chance. Even with the CB attack, I mean, it's not a belly drum. You probably won't be able to OHKO much. So when your CB pokemon dies, you have lamers who only have transform on them. Tadah.
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Of course you are only copying the stat boost not the item so your smeargle gets Salamences attack after a +1

Which is pretty neat since smeargle can learn any move in the game but, smeargles low speed is preventing it from doing massive damage to a team
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point is, *i just figured out that u cannot get the boost stat of a pokemon that has cb if its the pokemon u xform into, only if u r using cb u get the atack boost, so u get the same attack if the pokemon does or doesnt have cb on.*
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Which just makes Smeargle a Salamence/whatever it's Transforming into with lower HP.
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but if it has choice band it gets higher attack, my point was that it wont get salamence's attack stat after applying salamence's choice band, only smeargl'es own cb. but lets say you transform into a snorlax,or metagross,etc and *since it goes before snorlax/metagrosses* u get snorlax's, or metagrosses attack stat plus cb which is really high attack, you will totally be stronger than them and will have all their great stats. or lets say its a 2vs2 battle and u transform into your other pokemon, lets say salamence, you have 2 salamences and 1 has additional power fom cb. *which totally makes up for its lower life*, or maybe u could have shuckle and u use ditto or mew and u have higher hp, and *if using ditto w/ metal powder* double both of shuckle's usual defs.
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but if it has choice band it gets higher attack, my point was that it wouldn't get anymore attack if salamence doesnt have the choice band on or not, but smeargle will still get higher attack if smeargle wears cb.
The opponent then switches -- if he so has the mental capacity -- to something resistant to the attack you have used against Salamence, and you've either lost Smeargle, Smeargle's Transformation, or both, since Choice Band limits your choice use of moves. Quelle surprise.
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They can also Roar you away.
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It is an interesting technique competitley it may have some trouble pulling off, but Smeargle's base 75 Spd isn't THAT bad and he should be able to pull the tranform off.
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Old February 13th, 2005 (6:12 PM).
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they point is, they dont know u have a cb, and also with higher attack given from cb, u do alot of damage evn to pokemon resistant. and if they switch u do alot of damage on the switch, and you do alot of damage again if u are going first, or using 2nd turn moves like roar.
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1. Smeargle won't pull it off unless you transform on a switch.
2. Roar says hi anyway.
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Ice Rabbit, aka Wank, why would the opponent ROAR Smeargle at first site?

THEY WOULDN'T.
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Yeah I'd rather attack it coz most belly drum.
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If it Belly Drums, it's going to lose that boost anyway and be extremely weak.

The only real reason to not Roar is if you don't have anything that Roars out or you fear Ingrain for some reason.
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Well I would rather KNOCK OUT a poke if i had the chance rather than let it live for later when it may come down to 2 weak pokes vs each other.
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Ice Rabbit, you've lost this one.

Roaring Smeargle at first site is the ****test idea ever.

It's easier to kill.
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Smeargle dies either way.
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Well I would rather KNOCK OUT a poke if i had the chance rather than let it live for later when it may come down to 2 weak pokes vs each other.

Did you even read this?

Smeargle can be a threat if it comes down to the wire.

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