Moveset Help & Other Questions Page 10

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PlatinumDude

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Hey everyone, just wanting to get people's opinion on Scizor and Aegislash. Which one do you think would be better for Competitive battling in general? Personally I believe Aegislash's Kings Shield is OP and thus may make him better. Any thought or opinions are appreciate!
Aegislash's King's Shield, while potent, can be played around. You'll need good prediction skills when you use it:
-Swords Dance
-King's Shield
-Shadow Sneak
-Sacred Sword/Iron Head
Nature: Adamant/Brave
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def
Item: Leftovers

or
-Shadow Sneak
-Iron Head
-Sacred Sword
-Shadow Claw/King's Shield
Nature: Brave
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def
Item: Choice Band/Leftovers/Life Orb

or
-Autotomize
-Shadow Ball
-Sacred Sword/Flash Cannon
-Hidden Power (Ice)
Nature: Timid/Modest
EVs: 12 Atk/252 SAtk/244 Spe
Item: Life Orb

Scizor plays in the same way as it did in Gens IV and V. It doesn't rely on King's Shield to defend itself and still hits hard.

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Seen January 30th, 2014
Posted December 29th, 2013
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What's the most popular/more "official" battle mode? Single battle or double battle? I've mostly been doing double battle in x and y but if single battle is considered "the real deal" i might have to revise my team and strategy
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PlatinumDude

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What's the most popular/more "official" battle mode? Single battle or double battle? I've mostly been doing double battle in x and y but if single battle is considered "the real deal" i might have to revise my team and strategy
Nintendo hosts events in double battle format. Most people prefer to battle in singles over on Wi-Fi, though a few do doubles. So it's your call, really.

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Posted November 2nd, 2013
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Hello!

I've never been into pokemon PvP before this generation but now with super training available, I figured I'd give it a shot. My team that I hope to create will consist of:

Blissey
Skarmory
Chandelure
Metagross
Dragonite
Gardevoir

Any suggestions on move sets, what direction to take the team, or even pokemon to replace these? Overall, this bunch isn't very weak to any one Type so I figured it was pretty solid. I was thinking a spikes/whirlwind build on Skarmory but that's about all I know. Thanks very much for your input!

P.S. My friend code is 1676-4182-3631. Please add me for Friend Safari! PM me to let me know.
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Posted December 29th, 2013
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Nintendo hosts events in double battle format. Most people prefer to battle in singles over on Wi-Fi, though a few do doubles. So it's your call, really.
Thank you for the response. Do Nintendo host events online aswell? Or is it just physical tournaments?
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Oh, they do have online tournaments. The online tournaments compliment the live ones and there's tourneys when the live season is running. There should be an X&Y tourney going up soon but only people who participated in the last tournament (can't remember if there was a second qualifying) for B2W2 will be able to participate. The online tournaments are most often doubles but every-so-often there's a different format like singles. Japan tends to get special tournaments like an Eevee tournament (lucky bums) so we'll have to see if we get the really cool stuff or if we're left in the dust again.
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PlatinumDude

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Hello!

I've never been into pokemon PvP before this generation but now with super training available, I figured I'd give it a shot. My team that I hope to create will consist of:

Blissey
Skarmory
Chandelure
Metagross
Dragonite
Gardevoir

Any suggestions on move sets, what direction to take the team, or even pokemon to replace these? Overall, this bunch isn't very weak to any one Type so I figured it was pretty solid. I was thinking a spikes/whirlwind build on Skarmory but that's about all I know. Thanks very much for your input!

P.S. My friend code is 1676-4182-3631. Please add me for Friend Safari! PM me to let me know.
Blissey:
-Wish/Softboiled
-Protect/Aromatherapy
-Toxic/Thunder Wave
-Seismic Toss/Flamethrower
Nature: Calm
EVs: 4 HP/252 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure

Skarmory:
-Spikes/Stealth Rock
-Whirlwind
-Roost
-Taunt/Brave Bird/Iron Head
Nature: Impish/Careful
EVs: 224 HP/252 Def/32 SDef or 224 HP/32 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell
Ability: Sturdy

or
-Spikes
-Stealth Rock
-Taunt
-Brave Bird
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Custap Berry
Ability: Sturdy

Chandelure is now better off in the lower tiers, since Mega Gengar gained its previous Dream World ability, Shadow Tag. Use (Mega) Gengar instead:
-Substitute
-Disable/Pain Split
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast/Sludge Bomb
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe or 80 HP/252 SAtk/176 Spe
Item: Black Sludge/Life Orb/Gengarite

or
-Substitute/Protect
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
-Hidden Power (Fire)/Sludge Bomb/Dazzling Gleam
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Black Sludge/Life Orb

or
-Shadow Ball
-Sludge Bomb
-Focus Blast
-Trick/Thunderbolt
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

or
-Shadow Ball
-Protect/Focus Blast/Dazzling Gleam
-Substitute/Hypnosis
-Perish Song/Taunt
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe or 80 HP/252 SAtk/176 Spe
Item: Gengarite

or
-Taunt
-Destiny Bond/Substitute
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast/Sludge Bomb
Nature: Timid
EVs: 80 HP/252 SAtk/176 Spe
Item: Gengarite

Metagross is versatile and can take on multiple roles; even though it gained Ghost/Dark weaknesses in Gen VI, it's still effective because it gained a resistance to Fairy:
-Stealth Rock
-Meteor Mash
-Hammer Arm/Earthquake
-Pursuit
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 HP/96 Atk/160 SDef
Item: Leftovers

or
-Meteor Mash
-Bullet Punch
-Hammer Arm
-Zen Headbutt/Pursuit/ThunderPunch
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 164 HP/252 Atk/92 Spe
Item: Choice Band

or
-Agility
-Zen Headbutt
-Earthquake
-Meteor Mash/Ice Punch
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Meteor Mash
-Grass Knot
-Hidden Power (Fire)
-Zen Headbutt/Earthquake
Nature: Naughty
EVs: 252 Atk/228 SAtk/28 Spe
Item: Life Orb

Dragonite is versatile as well, but it needs Rapid Spin support to help keep Multiscale intact. Dragons pretty much got nerfed in Gen VI, due to the introduction of Fairies. Even though it may not be ideal for OU while sharing a Ground weakness with Metagross and a Psychic weakness with Gengar, Dragalge is a Dragon can hit Fairies super effectively:
-Draco Meteor/Dragon Pulse
-Sludge Bomb
-Thunderbolt
-Hydro Pump/Surf/Scald
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 HP/252 SAtk/4 SDef
Item: Black Sludge
Ability: Poison Point

Gardevoir gained some improvements this generation, including the Fairy type:
-Psychic/Psyshock
-Moonblast
-Focus Blast/Hidden Power (Fire)
-Thunderbolt/Shadow Ball/Trick
Nature: Timid/Modest
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Gardevoirite/Life Orb/Choice Specs/Choice Scarf
Ability: Trace

or
-Wish
-Protect
-Moonblast
-Will-o-Wisp
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Trace

Thank you for the response. Do Nintendo host events online aswell? Or is it just physical tournaments?
Some are over on Wi-Fi. Some are physical tournaments.

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Seen October 25th, 2013
Posted October 24th, 2013
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So im trying to make a competetive team without straying too far away from my favorites.

this is coming from the new x and y stand point, and im still alittle unsure of the league types and how they work. I know UBER is usually banned since its mainly all of the legendaries etc. I personally thing that legendaries ar to kitschy and want my team to not use them and stick to pokemon I enjoy.

Heres a list of my current team: (well what im leveling up anyways)

Togekiss - SPdef Wall - Timid
Aggron- Atkdef Wall- Relaxed

Mega Lucario - hybrid sweeper - Nuetral Nature
Gyarados- Physcal Sweeper - Adamant
Dragonite- Special Sweeper - Rash Nature
Tyranitar- Physical sweeper- Adamant

Was considering the following

Mawile
Sylveon
Vaporeon
Scizor- the one i have has terrible nature though so i dont know
Kangaskan
slowking- is adamant which sucks yet again >.>
weavile
haxor
absol
toxicroak

let me know what you think.

Still trying to figure out the new ev system but ive gotten affection up for the bonuses there and have been doing the little mini events that raise the main needed stat when im not battling
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Seen October 26th, 2013
Posted October 25th, 2013
5 posts
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So I've been looking to start training my x and y team and was wondering how I could improve it. Right now I think my team is going to be:

Charizard - Physical Sweeper
MewTwo - Special Sweeper
Spiritomb - Annoyer
Shuckle - Tank
Butterfree - Shuffler
Sweeper - Chesnaught (To finish it off)
(For the pokemon unavailable in 6th gen I plan on trading with my older versions)

Thanks for all of the help.

PlatinumDude

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Posted May 30th, 2020
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So I've been looking to start training my x and y team and was wondering how I could improve it. Right now I think my team is going to be:

Charizard - Physical Sweeper
MewTwo - Special Sweeper
Spiritomb - Annoyer
Shuckle - Tank
Butterfree - Shuffler
Sweeper - Chesnaught (To finish it off)
(For the pokemon unavailable in 6th gen I plan on trading with my older versions)

Thanks for all of the help.
Only Charizard X can be a good physical sweeper. Charizard Y and the regular Charizard are better special sweepers than it is:
-Dragon Dance/Swords Dance
-Flare Blitz
-Dragon Claw/Outrage
-Earthquake/Roost
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Charizardite X

Since Charizard is taking up the Mega Evo slot, you're better off using regular Mewtwo. Some people frown down upon using Ubers like Mewtwo in standard play, though, so you'll need to find a backup just in case, but still, here are some Mewtwo sets to help you out:
-Psystrike
-Ice Beam
-Aura Sphere/Fire Blast
-Fire Blast/Calm Mind
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Calm Mind
-Psystrike
-Flamethrower/Aura Sphere/Ice Beam
-Recover
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers

or
-Taunt
-Recover
-Will-o-Wisp/Toxic
-Light Screen/Psystrike/Substitute
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 HP/72 SDef/184 Spe
Item: Leftovers

or
-Psystrike
-Ice Beam
-Aura Sphere/Fire Blast/Flamethrower
-Flamethrower/Fire Blast/Trick
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

Spiritomb is a good annoyer, with its good defenses, though you'll have to watch out for its new Fairy weakness:
-Will-o-Wisp
-Foul Play
-Rest/Pain Split
-Sleep Talk/Sucker Punch/Taunt
Nature: Calm/Careful
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Pressure

Shuckle is an outright terrible tank. Sure, it gained Sticky Web in Gen VI to slow down opposing grounded switchins, but it's just too weak to accomplish much outside of Toxic. Butterfree is TOO frail to use Whirlwind, given its negative priority. Skarmory can tank AND shuffle the team at once:
-Spikes/Stealth Rock
-Whirlwind
-Roost
-Taunt/Brave Bird/Iron Head
Nature: Impish/Careful
EVs: 224 HP/252 Def/32 SDef or 224 HP/32 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell
Ability: Sturdy

Note that Chesnaught is plagued by common weaknesses to Fire, Flying, Psychic, Poison and Ice. Play to its main strengths, which are its high Defense and good Attack:
-Bulk Up
-Seed Bomb
-Hammer Arm
-Substitute/Synthesis
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 SDef
Item: Leftovers

or
-Spikes (egg move)
-Synthesis (egg move)
-Toxic
-Seed Bomb/Low Sweep
Nature: Impish
EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 Spe
Item: Leftovers

or
-Substitute
-Leech Seed
-Toxic/Spiky Shield
-Hammer Arm
Nature: Impish
EVs: 248 HP/8 Atk/252 Def
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Bulletproof

PlatinumDude

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Can someone give me a good set for Shedinja please
Remember that Shedinja needs a LOT of support to even function. It needs Sandstorm and Hail removed, hazards cleared and its weaknesses eliminated:
-Shadow Sneak
-Baton Pass
-Will-o-Wisp
-Protect
Nature: Brave
EVs: 252 Atk
Item: Focus Sash/Lum Berry

or
-Swords Dance
-X-Scissor
-Shadow Sneak/Shadow Claw
-Protect/Will-o-Wisp
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Focus Sash/Lum Berry

PlatinumDude

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What do you think the best Nature, Moveset and EVs are for a Aggron/Mega Aggron?
Mega Aggron is best off with Adamant or Careful. Its offensive and supportive move pools are pretty wide, so this gives you room for flexibility between defense or offense:
-Iron Head/Heavy Slam
-Earthquake
-Head Smash/Stone Edge/Stealth Rock/Fire Punch/Ice Punch/Thunder Wave
-Stealth Rock/Dragon Tail/Fire Punch/Ice Punch/Thunder Wave
Nature: Adamant/Careful
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def (Adamant) or 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef (Careful)
Item: Aggronite
Ability: Rock Head/Sturdy

or
-Iron Head/Heavy Slam
-Curse/Dragon Tail/Roar
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
Nature: Careful/Adamant/Impish
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef (Careful), 252 HP/252 Atk/4 SDef (Adamant), 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef (Impish)
Item: Aggronite
Ability: Sturdy

or
-Rock Polish/Autotomize
-Heavy Slam/Iron Head
-Earthquake
-Head Smash/Stone Edge/Fire Punch/Ice Punch
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Aggronite
Ability: Rock Head/Sturdy

or
-Iron Head/Heavy Slam
-Earthquake
-Stealth Rock/Thunder Wave/Fire Punch/Ice Punch/Stone Edge
-Dragon Tail/Thunder Wave/Roar/Fire Punch/Ice Punch/Stone Edge
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def
Item: Aggronite
Ability: Sturdy

Mesty

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Posted December 18th, 2016
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So my for sure team right now is Venasuar, Greninja and Blazekin. I'm lost on who to use as my last three. I was thinking Scyther, Golem, Dragonite, Garchomp or Aegislash. Not sure which 3 of those 5 to pick. Maybe even not any of them? Suggestinos would be much appreciated.
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Posted February 21st, 2014
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What do you guys think of this Zygarde set? All of the sets I've seen usually get outclassed by other pokemon or have very obvious counters. I decided to try something kinda gimmicky, but could work if you predict correctly.

Zygarde
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP- 252 Sp.D
Item:Leftovers
-Camouflage
-Extreme Speed-Glare-Swagger-Toxic
-Dragon Tail
-Coil

This sets uses Camouflage, yes Camouflage. It might seem like a useless move but I think it has potential on Zygarde. If I'm not mistaken during Wifi Battle Camouflage is always affected by a Building environment so Zygarde should always change into Normal type(if this is wrong this set fails lol). Basically what you do is switch Zygarde into something that's not carrying an Ice type move, they switch into something it does to counter Zygarde and during that switch you activate Camouflage. This will completely eliminate your Ice, Dragon and Fairy weakness. With this typing you can safely set up Coil since Zygarde is very bulky and carries leftovers.

With enough Coil boosts, STAB Extreme Speed should be doing some considerable damage. Dragon tail is to get rid of walls and bulky fighting types. You could switch up Glare with Extreme Speed if you want, Fairy Types can wall you though. Swagger is risky, but with the Defense boost from Coil it can work. Toxic is another great option for stalling, but you can't do anything to Klefki and Mawhile.

This set has problems like Toxic users, Brozong, only 5 pp ExSpeed and probably many more. Still this set purpose is to cripple your opponents pokemon so that your main sweepers can finish the job.

Entry hazards really help this pokemon since he's gonna be switching pokemon a lot with Dragon Tail.

I haven't tried this set yet, so is all theory right now. If it ends up working well that's great if it doesn't well Zygarde is probably getting another form :).
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Seen November 2nd, 2013
Posted October 27th, 2013
15 posts
9.6 Years
This is for X and Y. I own Y.

So, In the heat of a much needed sugar rush I had a while ago, I decided on this stupid and probably already done team gimmick, based around the popular 90's TV show Power Rangers.

What I'm asking for are suggestions for pokemon who could make a team like this possible.

The way I'd like for you to do this is as follows.

Pokemon species/ability
Moves
Ranger Color(Nickname)


We'll be using the original series colors, so Red, Blue, Black, Yellow, Pink, Green or White.

(I looked all over for a good place to put this, so if this should be moved tell me.


Where the hell is Empoleon....?

PlatinumDude

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Posted May 30th, 2020
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What do you guys think of this Zygarde set? All of the sets I've seen usually get outclassed by other pokemon or have very obvious counters. I decided to try something kinda gimmicky, but could work if you predict correctly.

Zygarde
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP- 252 Sp.D
Item:Leftovers
-Camouflage
-Extreme Speed-Glare-Swagger-Toxic
-Dragon Tail
-Coil

This sets uses Camouflage, yes Camouflage. It might seem like a useless move but I think it has potential on Zygarde. If I'm not mistaken during Wifi Battle Camouflage is always affected by a Building environment so Zygarde should always change into Normal type(if this is wrong this set fails lol). Basically what you do is switch Zygarde into something that's not carrying an Ice type move, they switch into something it does to counter Zygarde and during that switch you activate Camouflage. This will completely eliminate your Ice, Dragon and Fairy weakness. With this typing you can safely set up Coil since Zygarde is very bulky and carries leftovers.

With enough Coil boosts, STAB Extreme Speed should be doing some considerable damage. Dragon tail is to get rid of walls and bulky fighting types. You could switch up Glare with Extreme Speed if you want, Fairy Types can wall you though. Swagger is risky, but with the Defense boost from Coil it can work. Toxic is another great option for stalling, but you can't do anything to Klefki and Mawhile.

This set has problems like Toxic users, Brozong, only 5 pp ExSpeed and probably many more. Still this set purpose is to cripple your opponents pokemon so that your main sweepers can finish the job.

Entry hazards really help this pokemon since he's gonna be switching pokemon a lot with Dragon Tail.

I haven't tried this set yet, so is all theory right now. If it ends up working well that's great if it doesn't well Zygarde is probably getting another form :).
In Wi-Fi battles, Camouflage makes the user a pure Ground Pokemon (in Gen V, not sure about Gen VI), making it pointless as Zygarde is already Dragon/Ground. Coil is better off defensively, not offensively, so I don't see a use for Coil + ExtremeSpeed. Without Attack investment at all, ExtremeSpeed doesn't hit hard enough to justify its use, even after a boost. Zygarde should use Dragon Dance + ExtremeSpeed, a la Rayquaza.:
-Coil
-Dragon Tail
-Earthquake
-Substitute/Haze/Stone Edge
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers

Dragon Dance:
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-ExtremeSpeed
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 100 HP/252 Atk/156 Spe
Item: Lum Berry/Life Orb

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Posted February 21st, 2014
702 posts
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In Wi-Fi battles, Camouflage makes the user a pure Ground Pokemon (in Gen V, not sure about Gen VI), making it pointless as Zygarde is already Dragon/Ground. Coil is better off defensively, not offensively, so I don't see a use for Coil + ExtremeSpeed. Without Attack investment at all, ExtremeSpeed doesn't hit hard enough to justify its use, even after a boost. Zygarde should use Dragon Dance + ExtremeSpeed, a la Rayquaza.:
-Coil
-Dragon Tail
-Earthquake
-Substitute/Haze/Stone Edge
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers

Dragon Dance:
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-ExtremeSpeed
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 100 HP/252 Atk/156 Spe
Item: Lum Berry/Life Orb
That's strange, serebii says that in Wifi Rooms its Normal. I admit I've never used the move competively so I based the set off that, that is why I choosed to stay with the Extreme Speed. If it indeed its Ground then Camouflage is useless in this sense.

PlatinumDude

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Is female Meowstic a psychical attacker or a special attacker?
Look at its base stats and movepool. It's a Special attacker. To further expand, male and female Meowstic have different level-up movepools and DW abilities. The male excels at support and has Prankster as its DW ability. The female is better at attacking and has Competitive (a Specially-based version of Defiant) as its DW ability. Their regular abilities are the same: Keen Eye and Infiltrator (though I'd stick to Infiltrator).

Hikamaru

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Posted September 4th, 2018
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Is female Meowstic a psychical attacker or a special attacker?
It's the latter, she's primarily a special attacker.

As far as Meowstic's stats in general go, they mainly have high Speed and Sp. Attack while being average in all other stats. However, the different genders get different movesets, with males being supporters and females being attackers.

Edit: Dang it PlatinumDude lol
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Posted October 7th, 2017
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11.3 Years
I wanna hear opinions about these spreads
Chesnaught-Sassy:
252 Hp-Mix at Atck Def(More EVs in atk)
-Payback
-Seed Bomb
-Spikey Shield
-Ice Punch/Fire Punch

Sylveon-Calm
252 Def Mix in SpAtk-SpDef
-BabyDoll eyes
-Toxic
-Moonblast
-Wish

Heliolisk-Calm
4 HP-252 SpAtk & Speed
-Dark Pulse
-Grass Knot
-T-Wave
-Thunderbolt

Dragalge-Calm
252 HP-4 Def-252 SpAtk
-Surf
-Draco Meteor
-Sludge Bomb
-T-Bolt

Charizard-Modest
4 HP-252 SpAtk-252 Speed
-?
-Focus Blast
-Solar Beam(He has the Y mega)
-F-thrower

Mewostick(M)-Calm
252 HP-MIX in Def SpDef
-Substitute?
-Psyshock
-Reflect
-Light Screen


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PlatinumDude

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I wanna hear opinions about these spreads
Chesnaught-Sassy:
252 Hp-Mix at Atck Def(More EVs in atk)
-Payback
-Seed Bomb
-Spikey Shield
-Ice Punch/Fire Punch

Sylveon-Calm
252 Def Mix in SpAtk-SpDef
-BabyDoll eyes
-Toxic
-Moonblast
-Wish

Heliolisk-Calm
4 HP-252 SpAtk & Speed
-Dark Pulse
-Grass Knot
-T-Wave
-Thunderbolt

Dragalge-Calm
252 HP-4 Def-252 SpAtk
-Surf
-Draco Meteor
-Sludge Bomb
-T-Bolt

Charizard-Modest
4 HP-252 SpAtk-252 Speed
-?
-Focus Blast
-Solar Beam(He has the Y mega)
-F-thrower

Mewostick(M)-Calm
252 HP-MIX in Def SpDef
-Substitute?
-Psyshock
-Reflect
-Light Screen
Chesnaught doesn't learn the elemental punches. Why does it not have a Fighting STAB? While it's true that Hammer Arm reduces Speed after use, Chesnaught is slow, so it doesn't really care:
-Spikes
-Leech Seed
-Spiky Shield/Seed Bomb
-Hammer Arm
Nature: Impish
EVs: 248 HP/180 Def/80 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Bulletproof

or
-Bulk Up
-Seed Bomb
-Hammer Arm
-Stone Edge/Poison Jab/Substitute
Nature: Adamant/Careful
EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 SDef or 248 HP/8 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers

While it's true that Baby-doll Eyes is a priority Growl, it's not worth it because the opponent can just switch. Also, please, please, please max out Sylveon's HP first before you even go for the defenses:
-Wish
-Protect
-Moonblast
-Toxic/Shadow Ball
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers

Heliolisk is a Special sweeper, not a special defender because of its terrible defenses (though its Special Defense is admittedly decent). Note that Calm boosts Special Defense. It's too frail to make any use of support moves:
-Thunderbolt
-Surf
-Grass Knot/Focus Blast
-Hidden Power (Ice)/Focus Blast
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Choice Specs
Ability: Dry Skin

What's the point of Dragalge having a Calm nature when its Special Defense isn't invested in at all? Make it Modest and keep your EV spread.

Note that Charizard Y's Drought hinders some of your team members. Chesnaught's Fire weakness is increased, Heliolisk's and Dragalge's Surfs will be weakened, while Heliolisk will take damage every turn while Sun is up (assuming Dry Skin is its ability). You're better off using regular Charizard or Charizard X, though Rapid Spin support will be required for regular Charizard:

Regular:
-Fire Blast
-Air Slash
-Focus Blast/Hidden Power (Grass)
-Flamethrower
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Specs/Choice Scarf

Charizard X:
-Dragon Dance/Swords Dance
-Flare Blitz
-Dragon Claw/Outrage
-Earthquake/Roost
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Charizardite X

Male Meowstic should use Prankster as its ability:
-Reflect
-Light Screen
-Toxic/Thunder Wave
-Psychic
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Light Clay
Ability: Prankster

or
-Substitute
-Calm Mind
-Psychic
-Shadow Ball
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Prankster