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halcyonic

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I am thinking of getting a clefable, but I really don't know what moves/ability/evs to run.

Excluding softboiled, at least since I have no access to gen 3 move tutors.
I'm thinking cleric support mostly, so maybe wish/aromatherapy then moonblast/stealth rock?
clefable can run effective calm mind sets with either magic guard or unaware. it can also run a stealth rock lead set which is p good imo cos it beats common sr setters like garchomp, terrakion and ferrothorn.

if you're thinking of cleric support, use unaware with wish, protect, heal bell and moonblast.

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Hi, just a quick question. Does Cloud Nine nullify the positive affects that rain has on pokemon with the Hydration ability?

Thanks :)
Cloud Nine negates all weather and treats it as if no weather is on the field at all. Therefore, Hydration won't activate in rain if a Cloud Nine Pokemon is on the field.

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If I used Latios, should it be Mega evolved?
Either way, what are some good sets for it on ORAS?
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I want to breed a Bibarel, for PU and mixed environments, but maybe also NU. It'll be the Simple Curse set, probably with resto-chesto. Most recommend Adamant with max attack, but I'm also considering Careful with max spdef and wanted feedback on which would be better. Missing out on KOs vs. possibly easier setup...
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clefable can run effective calm mind sets with either magic guard or unaware. it can also run a stealth rock lead set which is p good imo cos it beats common sr setters like garchomp, terrakion and ferrothorn.

if you're thinking of cleric support, use unaware with wish, protect, heal bell and moonblast.
So, something like this?

Clefable (252 HP / 252 SDef / 4 Def)
Bold - Unaware
- Wish
- Protect
- Heal Bell
- Moonblast

Is this set able to run stealth rock in place of protect? Or is wish+protect completely necessary on it?

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So, something like this?

Clefable (252 HP / 252 SDef / 4 Def)
Bold - Unaware
- Wish
- Protect
- Heal Bell
- Moonblast

Is this set able to run stealth rock in place of protect? Or is wish+protect completely necessary on it?
Yes, that should be okay. Also, last I've checked, Clefable is better off running a physically defensive set. If you want a specially defensive cleric, Sylveon is the best choice.

Clefable @Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
- Wish
- Protect / Stealth Rock
- Heal Bell
- Moonblast

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Yes, that should be okay. Also, last I've checked, Clefable is better off running a physically defensive set. If you want a specially defensive cleric, Sylveon is the best choice.

Clefable @Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
- Wish
- Protect / Stealth Rock
- Heal Bell
- Moonblast
Okay, thank you.
I'll go try this out.

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Okay, thank you.
I'll go try this out.
Oh, whoops! I've just noticed that I've put incorrect EVs in that previous set, haha! Anyway, here's the proper set:

Clefable @Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
- Wish
- Protect / Stealth Rock
- Heal Bell
- Moonblast

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If I used Latios, should it be Mega evolved?
Either way, what are some good sets for it on ORAS?
Mega Latios is somewhat underwhelming compared to its regular counterpart, as Life Orb vanilla Latios hits harder than Mega Latios. The main problem with Latios is that Defog is a commonly used move on it, and that's a Gen IV move, but then again, Defog is optional.:
-Draco Meteor
-Psyshock
-Hidden Power (Fire)/Surf/Earthquake
-Roost/Recover/Defog
Nature: Timid/Hasty
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Draco Meteor
-Psyshock
-Hidden Power (Fire)/Defog/Tailwind
-Trick
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf
I want to breed a Bibarel, for PU and mixed environments, but maybe also NU. It'll be the Simple Curse set, probably with resto-chesto. Most recommend Adamant with max attack, but I'm also considering Careful with max spdef and wanted feedback on which would be better. Missing out on KOs vs. possibly easier setup...
I would've suggested Moody Bibarel, but that's banned to "Anything Goes".

Bibarel's bulk isn't that good, so Careful may be the better option here:
-Curse
-Quick Attack
-Waterfall
-Rest
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
Item: Chesto Berry
Ability: Simple

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Use Calm Mind + Draco Meteor if you really want to use Mega Latios.
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I would've suggested Moody Bibarel, but that's banned to "Anything Goes".

Bibarel's bulk isn't that good, so Careful may be the better option here:
-Curse
-Quick Attack
-Waterfall
-Rest
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
Item: Chesto Berry
Ability: Simple
Okay I'll use the Careful spread. I was also planning to breed a Moody Bibarel to use against friends who don't care. :P What would you (or anyone else) recommend for that? I have no clue where to start other than a -SpA nature and probably Protect...
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Okay I'll use the Careful spread. I was also planning to breed a Moody Bibarel to use against friends who don't care. :P What would you (or anyone else) recommend for that? I have no clue where to start other than a -SpA nature and probably Protect...
Moody Bibarel can get away with:
-Substitute
-Protect
-Return
-Waterfall
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Moody

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Mega Latios is somewhat underwhelming compared to its regular counterpart, as Life Orb vanilla Latios hits harder than Mega Latios. The main problem with Latios is that Defog is a commonly used move on it, and that's a Gen IV move, but then again, Defog is optional.:
-Draco Meteor
-Psyshock
-Hidden Power (Fire)/Surf/Earthquake
-Roost/Recover/Defog
Nature: Timid/Hasty
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Draco Meteor
-Psyshock
-Hidden Power (Fire)/Defog/Tailwind
-Trick
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf
Ok, then I won't bother with Mega Latios...
That'll leave someone else on my party able to mega evolve.
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I'm having a huge, HUGE problem with fairies, especially Sylveon. What is a good counter to them? I'm currently using Bisharp but it doesn't get the job done.
That depends on the composition of your team, and which particular Fairy-type you're having a problem against. Bisharp is typically unreliable when it comes to countering Sylveon since it cannot tank a Hyper Voice when it switches into it, while an unboosted Bisharp cannot OHKO back. Off the top of my head, try Mega Venusaur, Mega Scizor (regular Scizor can work too), Heatran and Ferrothorn.

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A good pokemon with move set than can counter ghost types?
Mega Lopunny can bust through Ghost Pokemon thanks to Scrappy making Normal and Fighting moves neutralities on them, but it won't like getting burned by Will-o-Wisp:
-Fake Out
-Return
-High Jump Kick
-Ice Punch/Healing Wish/Drain Punch
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Lopunnite
Ability: Limber

or
-Substitute
-Return
-High Jump Kick
-Baton Pass/Ice Punch/Encore
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Lopunnite
Ability: Limber

Others include Pursuit users such as Mega Absol, Bisharp, Tyranitar and Weavile. Pursuit hits a fleeing target just before it switches out of battle:

Mega Absol:
-Sucker Punch
-Knock Off
-Superpower/Play Rough
-Fire Blast/Ice Beam/Pursuit
Nature: Naive/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/32 SAtk/224 Spe
Item: Absolite
Ability: Super Luck/Justified

Bisharp:
-Sucker Punch
-Iron Head
-Knock Off
-Pursuit
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Dread Plate/Black Glasses
Ability: Defiant

Tyranitar:
-Stone Edge
-Crunch/Ice Punch
-Pursuit
-Superpower/Fire Blast
Nature: Jolly/Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf
Ability: Sand Stream

or
-Stealth Rock
-Pursuit/Crunch
-Fire Blast
-Ice Beam/Rock Slide/Thunder Wave
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 248 HP/136 Def/124 SDef
Item: Smooth Rock/Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream

Weavile:
-Knock Off
-Icicle Crash
-Ice Shard
-Low Kick/Pursuit/Poison Jab
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Pressure

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hi, i am starting a competitive team with rhyperior, venusar, tyranitar, swampert, gengar and garchomp

The thing is that i don't know which ability would be best for garchomp, most people say rough skin is the best, but i think that with tyranitar in the team, sand veil would be better.

Also, looking at smogon, i saw the x/y strategies, and all say rough skin, but, the B/W strategies have in some cases sand veil garchomp.

I just can't decide, i feel that in this team, sand veil should be better, but i want to hear your opinion

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p lazy to get a moveset, but just fyi zangoose doesnt win vs mega lopunny lol. 136 attack with se stab high jump kick = gg. 73/60 defenses on top of that lol

if you want a competitive moveset for zangoose, try something like toxic orb with toxic boost and facade (filler filler coverage) with jolly 252 atk 4 def 252 speed...

idk ;-;

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After having my zangoose smeared several times by a lopunny, I was wondering what a good nature, ability and evs for one might be, also a moveset if possible.
p lazy to get a moveset, but just fyi zangoose doesnt win vs mega lopunny lol. 136 attack with se stab high jump kick = gg. 73/60 defenses on top of that lol

if you want a competitive moveset for zangoose, try something like toxic orb with toxic boost and facade (filler filler coverage) with jolly 252 atk 4 def 252 speed...

idk ;-;
To add to what Revere said, Mega Lopunny outspeeds Zangoose. The former's Speed is 135, while the latter's is 90, which isn't bad, but isn't good either. However, Zangoose can pick off a weakened Mega Lopunny with Quick Attack.

Anyway, here's the full Zangoose set:
-Facade
-Close Combat
-Knock Off
-Quick Attack/Swords Dance
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Toxic Orb
Ability: Toxic Boost