How long will the franchise last? Page 2

Started by moon August 27th, 2013 11:28 PM
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Yeah, according to Wikipedia Black and White have sold around 15million. Red, Green and Blue sold 10million in Japan alone by the time Red and Blue were released in the US.

Yup, although there has been some reclaimed interest since the release of 5th Gen, the franchise is nowhere near as dominant as it once was.

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There will always be children.

There will always be loyal old-time fans.

There will always be companies wanting to make money.

Thus, it's likely that there will be Pokémon for many years to come.
What would I like to see in the future? A few things, actually.
1) A trio of ROM hacks [gen1, gen2, gen3] that, aside from the generation, are pretty much identical: You start in Kanto and post-elite four you travel through Johto as it would have been "3 years ago".
2) A demake of Heart Gold / Soul Silver. Possibly using Fire Red as a base.
3) An official Pokémon game, following the standard "gotta catch 'em all" format, but aimed more at the older players.

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I think it will last as long as it doesn't have two poorly reviewed games in a row. The first game would need to be pretty bad (a 2-3 out of 10) and the second could be anything below a 6. At that point, the main series will end. I don't foresee that happening until easily Gen VII/Gen VIII.
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I doubt Pokemon will ever end period the anime is simpsons looney tunes and other cartoons that could withstand time even if the anime was too end
also with the game aslong as the mascots have cool art works they are always going to sell to those little kids with handhelds shopping at toys r us with their parents even if they do not know the difference between a pikachu and a arceus. Pokemon is always going to appeal to kids. Pikachus is a iconic character in pop culture forget just pokemon Pokemon will never end even if they did stop making new pokemon or if ash wins a league it will just be rebooted of spined off for forever unless some controversy were to hit pokemon that in the aftermath no one wanted to touch the product
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The franchise will end when the technological world as we know it ends. Or if something politcally world-changing occurs in Japan.

They might stop making as much pokemon as they used to (around when they reach 1000), or they might stop making new pokemon but continue new plots (when they get into the higher thousands), but they aren't going to stop the franchise completely.
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It probably won't end until we reach 999 Pokemon, so in approximately 2 generations time (Which is about 6 years later) we should have an ending to this franchise
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I can't answer OP's question directly, there are just too many variables to consider.

One thing off the top of my head though: something that would definitely give the pokemon franchise more stability is introducing new, innovative concepts. Kind of like what Nolan did with Batman. They could try making the game a bit more...realistic in terms of some concepts, perhaps? That way its appeal to a different audience (young adults and seniors) would increase somewhat. Just my two cents.
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there's always ten year olds in this world, but I think that they are going to run out of designs
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In terms of its popularity in certain regions, Pokémon has definitely declined since its heydays. Whereas once upon a time almost everyone you knew were either playing Pokémon, collecting the trading game cards, indulging in the anime or all of the above, it's much harder to find people ─ especially kids ─ doing that today.

As a business, however, it's succeeding and even breaking past records. Based on sales numbers alone, Pokémon is still a huge powerhouse for both GameFreak and Nintendo. So long as these companies are making a profit, I don't see Pokémon going anywhere anytime soon.

Sure, GameFreak may slow down on the number of new Pokémon they release each generation but they are certainly in no short supply just yet. I can easily see them surpassing 1000 Pokémon in the next ten - fifteen years.

The anime I can see going on as long as the ratings are there. It's a staple to the franchise and basically one big advertisement for the games, but I can see it coming to an end before the games do. If anything, they could always reboot the anime altogether despite the writers' persistence that Ash and Pikachu will always remain the face of Pokémon.
I hope Gen 6 is the last generation with new Pokemon, as there are already enough Pokemon (about 680) and they're running out of ideas.
As for the franchise itself, though, probably it'll not die until the Pokemon anime ends or something.
I've never understood the argument of "running out of ideas." If they keep on coming out with new Pokémon designs every new generation, then clearly they've still got ideas buried in them. While some designs are disappointing and some new designs are blatant copies of older Pokémon, GameFreak has yet to have shown that they are running out of new ideas.

We may not approve of all the new Pokémon they come up with, but nevertheless, they keep on coming. Until the day GameFreak finally stops making new Pokémon designs, then one cannot rightfully say that they've run out of ideas.

At least that's how I see it.

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The only thing I have to add is that I truly doubt that either Nintendo or Gamefreak would even consider quitting on Pokemon, especially at this particular point during its life-span. Why? Because they've just taken the biggest step this franchise has ever seen, the leap to 3D (in both it's form ; 3D environments and stereoscopic 3D).

This is a move everyone has been anticipating forever. Not all of us were necessarily looking forward to this, but I doubt any of us mind. And because they've taken this step (and not in a particularly complete manner if I may add, because I think we can all agree that the 3D in X & Y looks pretty damn far from what the gaming industry is capable of). Baby steps are great, because both the audience and developers at this time know that there is still much room for improvement and a large road ahead of us.

So yeah, my opinion is that we will see Generation 7 and almost definitely Generation 8 before the Pokemon franchise is even near its end.
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It's still going strong in Europe, Japan, and the Americas.. so will go on for as long as the creators don't decide to retire it. But if it just went on and on.. even if the cartoon ended, the games will go on and on.. will be liek Mario Bros, Zelda, etc.. and still makign pokemon games even 20 years from now.
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When the series stops making money. Pokemon is still a very popular franchise (although nowhere near as successful as it was back in the late 90's/early 00's) and it still making enough money that Nintendo believes that it will be profitable.

I honestly feel that the people saying that they should stop making new pokemon are basically saying 'stop making the series'. Without new pokemon being introduced, the series will get old fast (although considering that Gen 5 was a ****heap for pokemon designs, there may be a few valid points).
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In my opinion, I think Pok'emon is growing, with the introduction and release of the X & Y versions it has opened the door and has laid out the path for alot of newer mechanics and ideas for the future Pok'emon games! I am certain Game Freak will remain amusing the older generation and newer generation of Pok'emon fans in the coming years :D
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True, with all this great hype around X & Y, I hardly believe this is the last generation they will release. At least not the last pokémon games. Tbh, the franchise seems bigger than ever.
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As long as there are people like us, pokemon lives on. They just can't shut down something that is so loved by us, and that draws more and more kids every season.

Hopefully, ill be sitting there at age 90, watching the new season with my great grandchildren
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Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.
Game Freak released only 69 Pokemon this generation. They've realized that it's becoming increasingly costly to create 100+ Pokemon every generation. The ideas are starting to run out, you can do a early rodent/bug/bird Pokemon only so many times before they start to grow old. I'm curious to see how they innovate, because coming up with new Pokemon is a dead end.

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Sorry if this is a huge post as for I have a lot to say about this thread...

Like all things Pokémon has to die eventually. Pokémon has grown like a tree over the course of its life span. It starts of as a sapling and you have to wait to see its potential (Red and Blue) It begins growing and people think its beautiful (Gold and Silver) but there comes a time when the tree might need to be chopped down (Gen 3-5) but if they find a way to fit the tree in it stays (X and Y)

What I'm getting at is that its here but it might not be here for a long time. The random number generator that a guy posted way above of me is a weird example. If the fan base is truly loyal and stays with the games the entire way, it grows. Who knows it might be here that long.

However, if you have beaten X and Y like I did you might have realized something... The game was a bit to easy. Even the post game is simple. I'm not going to spoil to much but you have 5 battles in a row with level 50-65's and I was mid 70's-80's. Its either, this game was for new fans, or it was to get older fans into it.

I kind of lost interest after Black and White 2 but I saw X and Y during the January Pokémon Direct and it looked like a clean slate for the series. But, like a clean state, you have to experiment and try samples. I think the developers were doing that exactly which usually ends up in an unfinished product.

While playing X and Y I thought it was a parody of the series. With an over 9000 joke literally put in there. I laughed but I also thought, were they mocking me? Or even worse were they mocking the series?

Many may disagree with me but I think X and Y might have been the downfall for the series. I enjoyed the graphics and the story was alright, but since they were experimenting with the 3DS's Graphical, Sound, and just about everything's limit, it turned out as an unfinished product. There's a couple things you can do in the post game. Which aren't that fun because I was so over leveled.

If you don't agree or want to add on just leave a reply on how you think X and Y may have saved or ruined the series for you!
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I think with as much mythos & cultural legends as there out there, Pokemon has almost an endless potential to draw upon with its original concept. However, unless Nintendo & Gamefreak changes things up significantly enough both through the games & even the art design philosophy itself I don't see them fully tapping into that potential.
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There's only 1 video game franchise that's more profitable than Pokemon, that's Mario.

Mario Franchise - 446.53 million sales (July 9, 1981, Donkey Kong)
Pokemon Franchise - 245 million sales (Feb. 27, 1996, Red and Green)

In 15 less years, Pokemon has had 55% of the sales Mario has had. There's no way Game Freak and Nintendo let this die any time soon.