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Old February 18th, 2005 (1:48 PM).
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Here's what I got. Need any changes?

Raikou
Item: Scope lens
Thunderbolt
Iron Tail
Bite
Hidden Power Grass

Entei
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Fire Blast
Iron Tail
Bite
Hidden Power Ground

Suicune
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Surf
Ice Beam
Roar
Hidden Power Bug
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Old February 18th, 2005 (1:59 PM).
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Here's what I got. Need any changes?

Raikou
Item: Scope lens Lefties
Thunderbolt
Iron Tail Calm mind
Bite Subsitute / Crunch
Hidden Power Grass|Ice / Crunch

Entei
Item: Bright Powder Lefties
Fire Blast
Iron Tail Sunny Day
Bite Solarbeam
Hidden Power Ground / Filler

Suicune
Item: Leftovers
Surf
Ice Beam/ Rest
Roar
Hidden Power Bug Calm mind
If for GSC

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~ Thunderbolt
~ Crunch / HP: Grass|Ice
~ Sleeptalk
~ Rest

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~ Surf
~ Roar
~ Toxic / Icebeam
~ Rest

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~ Sunny Day
~ Solarbeam
~ Flamethrower / Fireblast
~ Filler

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Old February 18th, 2005 (2:13 PM).
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Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 148 HP / 136 Def / 88 SAtk / 136 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Rest
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Calm Mind

Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 68 HP / 252 Spd / 136 SAtk / 52 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Calm Mind


Word to the wise: Entei's roster of possible moves is rubbish. Do not use it. In addition, Crunch is also pretty useless for the type advantages it offers, and it is best left to things that get SATB from it.
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Old February 18th, 2005 (2:25 PM).
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Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 148 HP / 136 Def / 88 SAtk / 136 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Rest
- Surf
- Sleep Talk
- Calm Mind

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~ Solarbeam
~ Flamethrower / Fireblast
~ HP: Fighting
Just two changes
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Old February 18th, 2005 (2:34 PM).
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Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 148 HP / 136 Def / 88 SAtk / 136 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Rest
- Surf
- Sleep Talk
- Calm Mind
Water-Absorbers love that move-set.
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Old February 18th, 2005 (2:38 PM).
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yea but, other wise it rapes
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Old February 18th, 2005 (8:52 PM).
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Hmm Entei...

Entei @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 136 HP / 152 Atk / 4 Def / 122 Spd / 96 SAtk
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Substitute
- Psych Up
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Fire Blast

101 sub... easily achieved. Hard to make decent movesets for him. Send him out against Ninjask or something and sub, then psych up. Chances are he'll be faster than the baton passee. Then he can break sub, they break sub, you keel. Good thing is you can psych up both physical and special to use. Subbing to 1 HP. Lets you get some extra pawa.
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Old February 18th, 2005 (10:55 PM).
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Old February 19th, 2005 (5:40 PM).
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LOL And just what is ICE BEAM gonna do to a Water Absorber?

Maybe 10% LOL

Do what you want Entei is no use matter of fact all the dogs suck.

Suicune looks coolest though.
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Old February 19th, 2005 (8:16 PM).
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LOL And just what is ICE BEAM gonna do to a Water Absorber?

Maybe 10% LOL

Do what you want Entei is no use matter of fact all the dogs suck.

Suicune looks coolest though.
And what is a water absorer going to do to the calm minded suicune? Ice Beam would do far more than 10% if calm mind was used. Can 2-3HKO milotic and vaporeon if full, methinks. And what can Milotic and vaporeon do to it? Especially if it's the 101 sub suicune.
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Old February 19th, 2005 (8:42 PM).
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All the legendary dogs suck. LOL

I think you meant "All the legendary dogs suck besides Suicune and Raikou".
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Old February 19th, 2005 (8:44 PM).
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>_>

Admittedly Cune and Kou can wip teams but they aren't "cool".

Also man, I made an anti Suicune Lapras with HP Electric, but I think some kind of DD Lapras could wipe him.

DD Lapras.

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Old February 19th, 2005 (9:36 PM).
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Lapras with HP Electric? When Lapras can learn Thunderbolt... I find this stupid X_x
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Old February 19th, 2005 (9:42 PM).
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<_< I lied.

It was a Suicune with HP Electric and he was to counter my mate's Lapras, which he used as a Suicune counter.

Goin a little senile in my old age eh.
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Old February 19th, 2005 (10:11 PM).
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That could work eh... Hmm... how many pokemon with resistances to water and electricity have high special defense?
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Old February 19th, 2005 (10:21 PM).
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Absolutely no idea.

But the Suicune set I had was Surf/HP Electric/Calm Mind/Roar

Obviously, you could go with Rest > Roar, but it works anyway.
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Old February 19th, 2005 (11:53 PM).
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Hmm I dunno. I usually put Roar on Donphan. Last slot I'd give him sub, to keel teh blisseys. 101 subzorz. 3 CMs at max sp att to 2hko. Coolio.
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Old February 20th, 2005 (12:06 AM).
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Sounds okay to me.

**** this character limit.
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Old February 20th, 2005 (12:13 PM).
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They should at least drop the character limit to 10. 25 character limit is gay.

DD Lapras sucks. Sup Roar?
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Old February 20th, 2005 (1:03 PM).
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Suicune with roar or Ice beam is made to rape and it works but, the the Sleep talk one is safer
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Old February 20th, 2005 (3:06 PM).
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Well if they try HP Electric how about Lanturn? i havent used one in a while so i dunno what its special defence is like. Also, Toxicing (ie- my Milotic) Cunes with roar over rest is almost a surefire way to get the buggers to switch out. Milotoxic rox :)
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Old February 21st, 2005 (12:52 AM).
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Well if they try HP Electric how about Lanturn? It's quite UU, so I wouldn't worry :p i havent used one in a while so i dunno what its special defence is like. Also, Toxicing (ie- my Milotic) Cunes with roar over rest is almost a surefire way to get the buggers to switch out. Milotoxic rox :) That's why I suggested 101 sub cune :D
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Old February 21st, 2005 (12:58 AM).
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Yes well RSL will have to choose one of the sets. It cant do everything.
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Old February 21st, 2005 (1:01 AM).
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More like Sub Cune > Toxic Milotic.

Then Cune HP Electrics him.

Milotic is then severely screwed, as Cune can just CM on him aswell.
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Lanturn has enough Def to stand a DD Eq for T-Tar

(with the right EVs) that sucked horribly for me when the surfed the F*** out of my T-Tar

It might have been its massive HP that saved it that time

SpDef wise its immune to Electric (ability)
its resistant to water
its resistant to ice
its resistant to fire

Those are the most common elemental attacks people use

Base stat (80 is about average)
SpDef:76
Def:58

Meh they aren't that great but, when coupled with the

125 base HP they are pretty good

I'd use the set

~Bolt
~Beam
~Confuse Ray
~T-wave

or if you really want to be a B**** switch Bolt for surf and Beam for attract

this think actually has the staying power to pull off Wave+C ray+Attract
unlike Misdreavus
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