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Old December 17th, 2013 (7:55 PM).
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    Roserade has enough bulk to take Ice Beam from Suicune, then hit back with Leaf Storm for an OHKO. Sludge Bomb also can hit for a 2HKO:

    0 SpA Suicune Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Roserade: 114-136 (35.1 - 41.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
    252+ SpA Choice Specs Roserade Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Suicune: 600-708 (148.5 - 175.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    252+ SpA Choice Specs Roserade Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Suicune: 208-246 (51.4 - 60.8%) -- 92.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery


    Roserade @ Choice Specs
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
    Modest Nature
    - Leaf Storm
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Extrasensory
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    Old December 17th, 2013 (9:16 PM).
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    Heatran @ Assault Vest
    Ability: Flash Fire
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
    Modest Nature
    - Fire Blast / Flamethrower
    - Earth Power
    - Dark Pulse
    - Hidden Power [Ice]

    Heatran ohkos with Fire Blast or Flamethrower. Roserade can't even retaliate because Heatran is immune to two of its moves while the other two moves deals around ~15% damage at best.
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    Old December 17th, 2013 (9:26 PM).
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      Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
      Ability: Natural Cure
      EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 Def
      Careful Nature
      - Seismic Toss
      - Soft-Boiled
      - Thunder Wave
      - Stealth Rock

      The best at walling any special set. Blissey just heals off any damage and continues to use Seismic Toss until Heatran goes bye-bye.
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      Old December 17th, 2013 (9:49 PM).
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      Machamp w/ Lum Berry
      Ability: No Guard
      Nature: Adamant
      212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Spe
      ~ Rest
      ~ Sleep Talk
      ~ DynamicPunch
      ~ Stone Edge

      Machamp should be able to endure a Thunder Wave thanks to Lum Berry, then keep DynamicPunching Blissey until it's down and out.
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      Old December 17th, 2013 (10:11 PM). Edited December 18th, 2013 by PlatinumDude.
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      Aegislash:

      -Swords Dance
      -Autotomize
      -Shadow Claw
      -Sacred Sword
      Nature: Adamant
      EVs: 88 HP/252 Atk/168 Spe
      Item: Leftovers

      Aegislash walls Machamp's current moves and uses it setup bait for Swords Dance and Autotomize.
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      Old December 18th, 2013 (1:20 PM).
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      -Zygarde w/Leftovers (last I checked, Zygarde isn't Ubers, so its good)
      Nature: Impish
      Ability: Aura Break
      EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Attack
      Moves: Earthquake, Coil, Stone Edge, Extreme Speed

      +2 252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Sacred Sword vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Zygarde: 151-178 (35.9 - 42.3%) -- 92.8% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

      +2 252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Shadow Claw vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Zygarde: 177-208 (42.1 - 49.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

      It's pretty obvious that Earthquake will OHKO Aegislash, and since it can take a couple of +2 attacks and not die, I'd say this is a counter.
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      Old December 18th, 2013 (2:01 PM).
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        Quagsire @ Leftovers
        Bold
        248 HP / 156 Def / 104 SpA
        Unaware

        Scald
        Ice Beam / Encore
        Recover
        Toxic

        Unaware ignores anything Zygarde gains from Coil. From there, Quagsire can either Toxic stall it out with Recover, Burn it with Scald so as to further limit its offensive capabilities, or lock it into Coil with Encore. Ice Beam is a simple 2HKO after Leftovers with the 104 SpA EV's invested.

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        104 SpA Quagsire Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Zygarde: 224-264 (53.3 - 62.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
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        4 Atk Zygarde Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 156+ Def Quagsire: 96-114 (24.4 - 29%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
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        4 Atk Zygarde Extreme Speed vs. 248 HP / 156+ Def Quagsire: 51-61 (12.9 - 15.5%) -- possibly the worst move ever
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        4 Atk Zygarde Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 156+ Def Quagsire: 32-38 (8.1 - 9.6%) -- possibly the worst move ever
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        Old December 18th, 2013 (3:36 PM).
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          Breloom @ Toxic Orb
          Ability: Poison Heal
          Nature: Adamant
          EVs: 12 HP / 252 Atk / 244 Spe
          - Substitute
          - Focus Punch
          - Spore
          - Seed Bomb

          Resists Scald, and can Spore or Seed Bomb to get rid of Quagsire.
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          Old December 18th, 2013 (3:46 PM).
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            Tangrowth @ Leftovers
            Ability: Regenerator
            Nature: Bold
            EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
            - Giga Drain
            - Focus Blast
            - HP Ice
            - Synthesis

            I use Tangrowth against opposing Breloom all the time and hardly anything else works better. Being immune to spore this gen, Tangrowth can (and will) take any punch the karate mushroom can dish out while healing off the damage with Synthesis and striking back with a deadly HP Ice.
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            Old December 18th, 2013 (4:48 PM).
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            Delphox:

            -Fire Blast
            -Psyshock
            -Grass Knot
            -Switcheroo
            Nature: Timid
            EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
            Item: Choice Scarf
            Ability: Blaze

            Delphox resists all of Tangrowth's current moves. It also hits it hard with Fire Blast or cripples it with Switcheroo.
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            Old December 18th, 2013 (5:34 PM).
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            Garchomp @ Garchompite
            16 Atk/252 Sp. Atk/240 Speed
            Hasty nature
            - Swords Dance
            - Draco Meteor
            - Earthquake
            - Stone Edge

            Should be able to take down Delphox with an Earthquake or two. If it manages to set-up Swords Dance, though, then it's a guaranteed one-hit knockout.
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            Old December 18th, 2013 (6:58 PM).
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              Bronzong @ Leftovers
              Ability: Levitate
              EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 Atk
              Sassy Nature
              IVs: 0 Spd
              - Toxic
              - Stealth Rock
              - Earthquake
              - Gyro Ball

              Bronzong either resists or is immune to all of Garchomp's attacks. Then Garchomp gets to be toxic'd and just worn down by Bronzong until it goes bye-bye.
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              Old December 18th, 2013 (7:42 PM).
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                Volcarona @ Lum Berry
                Ability: Flame Body
                Nature: Modest
                EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
                - Quiver Dance
                - Bug Buzz
                - Fiery Dance
                - Giga Drain

                Volcarona Doesn't mind Gyro Ball or EQ, and Toxic won't matter much.
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                Old December 18th, 2013 (11:38 PM).
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                  Dragonite (M) @ Choice Band
                  Trait: Multiscale
                  EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
                  Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
                  - Outrage
                  - Earthquake
                  - Extreme Speed
                  - Fire Punch

                  252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 468-552 (150.4 - 177.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

                  +1 252+ SpA Volcarona Bug Buzz vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 62-73 (19.1 - 22.5%) -- possible 5HKO
                  +1 252+ SpA Volcarona Fiery Dance vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 55-65 (16.9 - 20%) -- possible 5HKO
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                  Old December 19th, 2013 (12:57 AM).
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                  Porygon2 @ Eviolite
                  252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
                  Ability: Trace
                  Nature: Bold
                  ~ Recover
                  ~ Thunderbolt
                  ~ Ice Beam
                  ~ Thunder Wave

                  It copies Dragonite's Multiscale ability thanks to Trace, allowing it to take an additional hit or two. After that, it cripples Dragonite down with Thunder Wave and keeps using Ice Beam until its HP reaches zero.
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                  People sure like to use Porygon2 to counter Dragonite...



                  -Mega Lucario w/Lucarionite
                  Nature: Hasty
                  Ability: Adaptibility
                  EVs: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Attack
                  Moves: Aura Sphere, Flash Cannon, Dark Pulse, Extreme Speed


                  0 SpA Porygon2 Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Mega Lucario: 90-107 (32 - 38%) -- 96.4% chance to 3HKO


                  252 SpA Adaptability Mega Lucario Aura Sphere vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Eviolite Porygon2: 256-304 (68.4 - 81.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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                  Old December 19th, 2013 (1:25 PM).
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                  - Dragon Dance
                  - Waterfall

                  Pretty self explanatory. Pretty much hard walls and sets up on the whole set.
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                    248 HP / 164 Def / 96 Sp.Def
                    Careful Nature
                    - Rest
                    - Sleep Talk
                    - Dragon Dance
                    - Waterfall

                    Pretty self explanatory. Pretty much hard walls and sets up on the whole set.
                    Speaking of hard-walled.

                    Suicune @ Leftovers
                    Modest
                    4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
                    Water Absorb

                    Calm Mind
                    Hidden Power Electric / Substitute
                    Ice Beam
                    Hydro Pump

                    cbf calculating EV's for this. But basically, Water Absorb > Waterfall.

                    Sub + CM > ??? > profit
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                    Old December 19th, 2013 (5:40 PM).
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                    Rotom-C w/ Choice Scarf
                    Ability: Levitate
                    Nature: Timid
                    4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
                    ~ Volt Switch
                    ~ Leaf Storm
                    ~ Thunderbolt
                    ~ Trick

                    Trick, Thunderbolt, then Leaf Storm away! If Leaf Storm can't get the job done, Volt Switch definitely will.
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                    -Heatran w/Air Balloon
                    Nature: Timid
                    Ability: Flash Fire
                    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
                    Moves: Fire Blast, Earth Power, Hidden Power Ice, Flash Cannon

                    252 SpA Rotom-C Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Heatran: 121-144 (37.3 - 44.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

                    That's Rotom-C's (why is it C? wouldn't M be better?) best attack against Heatran. And its pretty obvious what Fire Blast's gonna do...
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                    Old December 19th, 2013 (7:13 PM).
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                      This thread just keeps going in circles. I think I've seen Heatran about 8 times. As well as this:

                      Rotom-W @ Leftovers
                      Modest
                      248 HP / 56 SpA / 204 SpD
                      Levitate

                      Hydro Pump
                      Pain Split
                      Volt Switch
                      Light Screen

                      Resists ERRRRRRYTHAAAANG and 2HKO's with Hydro Pump. Light Screen + Pain Split for longevity.
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                        Gastrodon @ Leftovers
                        Ability: Storm Drain
                        EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
                        Bold Nature
                        - Toxic
                        - Scald
                        - Earth Power
                        - Recover

                        Gastrodon is immune to both of Rotom-W's attacks and will just wait out the toxic stall. Recover is there so Pain Split doesn't do all that much.
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                        For the sake of getting out of this circle:

                        Cacturne:

                        -Swords Dance
                        -Seed Bomb
                        -Sucker Punch
                        -Substitute
                        Nature: Jolly
                        EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
                        Item: Leftovers
                        Ability: Water Absorb

                        Cacturne doesn't fear Scald from Gastrodon, due to Water Absorb, and can eliminate it with Seed Bomb, or use Substitute on the switch in to ease prediction.
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                          Honchkrow @ Life Orb
                          Ability: Moxie
                          EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
                          Jolly Nature
                          - Substitute
                          - Roost
                          - Brave Bird
                          - Sucker Punch

                          I don't think Honchkrow has been mentioned yet. Anyway, resists both STABs and completely ruins Cacturn with Brave Bird.
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                          Golem @ Custap Berry
                          Ability: Sturdy
                          EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
                          Nature: Adamant
                          - Earthquake
                          - Rock Slide
                          - Sucker Punch
                          - Explosion

                          252 Atk Life Orb Honchkrow Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Golem: 99-117 (27.1 - 32.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
                          252 Atk Life Orb Honchkrow Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Golem: 133-157 (36.5 - 43.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

                          252+ Atk Golem Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Honchkrow: 428-506 (105.9 - 125.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

                          Golem takes literally nothing from Honchkrow, can easily OHKO with Rock Slide, and also can Explode in people's faces when he's about to die! :D
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