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Old December 22nd, 2013 (4:01 AM).
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Honchkrow @ Life Orb
Trait: Super Luck
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Night Slash
- Brave Bird
- Superpower
- Roost

After it gets sent out on the field, Honchkrow would immediately start Night Slashing. Before you even know it, Chandelure would be out of sight.

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Old December 22nd, 2013 (4:26 AM).
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    Quote:
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    Dugtrio is a check, not a counter. It gets OHKO'd if Jolteon uses HP Ice when Dugtrio switches in.

    My mistake, will try to do it properly in future.

    Zapdos @ leftovers
    Ability: Pressure
    EVs: 252 HP /252 Sp.Atk /4 speed
    Timid Nature(+Speed - Atk)
    -Thunderbolt
    -Heat Wave
    -Substitute
    -Roost

    Bulky Zapdos can switch into everything, including a night slash crit from Honchkrow and Outspeeds and OHKs with T-Bolt.

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    Old December 22nd, 2013 (4:45 AM).
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      Quote:
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      Honchkrow @ Life Orb
      Trait: Super Luck
      EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
      Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
      - Night Slash
      - Brave Bird
      - Superpower
      - Roost

      After it gets sent out on the field, Honchkrow would immediately start Night Slashing. Before you even know it, Chandelure would be out of sight.

      Not exactly.

      252+ SpA Chandelure Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Honchkrow: 292-345 (72.2 - 85.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

      Basically, not only should your Pokemon be able to defeat your foe, it should also be able to switch into any of its moves. Honchkrow takes over 70% when it switches into Chandelure's Flamethrower. In the following turn, Chandelure outspeeds Honchkrow thanks to Choice Scarf and KOs it with another Flamethrower before Honchkrow can do anything to strike back. The lack of Sucker Punch makes Honchrow nothing more than a check.

      252+ Atk Life Orb Honchkrow Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chandelure: 398-471 (152.4 - 180.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

      Anyway,

      Flygon (M) @ Choice Band
      Trait: Levitate
      EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
      Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
      - Outrage
      - Earthquake
      - U-turn
      - Stone Edge

      Flygon is unaffected by Thunderbolt and it takes 19.9 - 23.5% from Heat Wave. Zapdos is OHKO'd by Stone Edge or Outrage.

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      Old December 22nd, 2013 (5:33 PM).
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      -Avalugg w/Leftovers
      Nature: Impish
      Ability: Sturdy
      EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4Attack
      Moves: Avalanche, Earthquake, Recover, Rapid Spin

      252+ Atk Choice Band Flygon Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Avalugg: 138-164 (35 - 41.6%) -- 78.9% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

      252+ Atk Choice Band Flygon Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Avalugg: 124-147 (31.4 - 37.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

      lol Avalugg

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      Old December 22nd, 2013 (5:44 PM).
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      Typhlosion @ Choice Scarf
      Trait: Blaze
      EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 HP
      Timid Nature
      - Focus Blast
      - Flamethrower
      - Overheat
      - Fire Blast

      4 Atk Avalugg Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Typhlosion: 204-240 (68.4 - 80.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

      252 SpA Typhlosion Overheat vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg: 692-816 (175.6 - 207.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
      252 SpA Typhlosion Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg: 480-566 (121.8 - 143.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
      252 SpA Typhlosion Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg: 426-502 (108.1 - 127.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
      252 SpA Typhlosion Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg: 584-690 (148.2 - 175.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

      /me says nothing

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      Old December 22nd, 2013 (7:07 PM).
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      Typhlosion @ Choice Scarf
      Trait: Blaze
      EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 HP
      Timid Nature
      - Focus Blast
      - Flamethrower
      - Overheat
      - Fire Blast

      4 Atk Avalugg Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Typhlosion: 204-240 (68.4 - 80.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

      252 SpA Typhlosion Overheat vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg: 692-816 (175.6 - 207.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
      252 SpA Typhlosion Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg: 480-566 (121.8 - 143.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
      252 SpA Typhlosion Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg: 426-502 (108.1 - 127.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
      252 SpA Typhlosion Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg: 584-690 (148.2 - 175.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

      /me says nothing

      Just saying, Choice Scarf with Eruption is one of Typhlosion's main draws, making it hard to switch into.

      Anyway:

      Jellicent

      -Scald
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      -Toxic
      -Recover
      Nature: Calm
      EVs: 252 HP/36 Def/220 SDef
      Item: Leftovers
      Ability: Water Absorb

      Jellicent walls Typhlosion entirely. 'Nuff said.

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      Old December 23rd, 2013 (12:14 AM).
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        Shaymin @ Life Orb
        Trait: Natural Cure
        EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
        Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
        - Seed Flare
        - Earth Power
        - Leech Seed
        - Hidden Power [Ice]

        252 SpA Life Orb Shaymin Seed Flare vs. 252 HP / 220+ SpD Jellicent: 307-361 (75.9 - 89.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

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        Old December 23rd, 2013 (12:53 AM).
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        Chansey @ Eviolite
        Nature: Natural Cure
        Ability: Bold
        252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
        ~ Wish
        ~ Protect
        ~ Toxic
        ~ Seismic Toss

        Could withstand any attacks used by Shaymin. Then, it could poison it with Toxic and finish it off with a few Seismic Tosses. With the help of Wish and Protect, it would be able to recover itself whenever it needs to. :b

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        252+ SpA Chandelure Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Honchkrow: 292-345 (72.2 - 85.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

        Basically, not only should your Pokemon be able to defeat your foe, it should also be able to switch into any of its moves. Honchkrow takes over 70% when it switches into Chandelure's Flamethrower. In the following turn, Chandelure outspeeds Honchkrow thanks to Choice Scarf and KOs it with another Flamethrower before Honchkrow can do anything to strike back. The lack of Sucker Punch makes Honchrow nothing more than a check.

        252+ Atk Life Orb Honchkrow Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chandelure: 398-471 (152.4 - 180.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

        Ah, okay--I got you. Thanks for clearing that up. :]

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        Old December 23rd, 2013 (12:59 AM).
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        Conkeldurr @Leftovers
        Ability: Guts
        EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
        Adamant
        - Bulk Up
        - Drain Punch
        - Mach Punch
        - Ice Punch

        Doesn't mind Toxic that much due to Guts. Could set up if Chansey decides to Wish + Protect. A combination of Guts boosted Drain Punch + Mach Punch also kills Chansey. 2hko's with Drain Punch without the Guts boost.

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        Old December 23rd, 2013 (1:00 AM). Edited December 23rd, 2013 by Jin Of The Gale.
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          Chandelure (M) @ Choice Specs
          Trait: Flash Fire
          EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
          Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
          - Fire Blast
          - Shadow Ball
          - Hidden Power [Fighting]
          - Energy Ball

          252+ SpA Choice Specs Chandelure Fire Blast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Conkeldurr: 456-537 (129.5 - 152.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
          252+ SpA Choice Specs Chandelure Shadow Ball vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Conkeldurr: 331-391 (94 - 111%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

          252+ Atk Conkeldurr Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chandelure: 52-61 (19.9 - 23.3%) -- possible 5HKO

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          Old December 23rd, 2013 (6:27 AM). Edited December 23rd, 2013 by Nah.
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          Typhlosion @ Choice Scarf
          Trait: Blaze
          EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 HP
          Timid Nature
          - Focus Blast
          - Flamethrower
          - Overheat
          - Fire Blast

          4 Atk Avalugg Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Typhlosion: 204-240 (68.4 - 80.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

          252 SpA Typhlosion Overheat vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg: 692-816 (175.6 - 207.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
          252 SpA Typhlosion Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg: 480-566 (121.8 - 143.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
          252 SpA Typhlosion Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg: 426-502 (108.1 - 127.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
          252 SpA Typhlosion Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg: 584-690 (148.2 - 175.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

          /me says nothing

          Funny thing here is that Typhlosion doesn't counter Avalugg because of Sturdy:
          Typhlosion switches in----> Avalugg uses Earthquake while Typhlosion switches in------>Next turn, Typhlosion uses fire attack, Avalugg survives due to Sturdy, finishes Typhlosion with a 2nd EQ

          How was I the only one who saw that?

          Anyway:

          -Goodra w/Assault Vest
          Nature: Calm
          Ability: Sap Sipper
          EVs: 252 HP, 252 Special Attack, 4 Sp.Defense
          Moves: Dragon Pulse, Thunderbolt, Flamethrower, Sludge Bomb

          252+ SpA Choice Specs Flash Fire Chandelure Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4+ SpD Assault Vest Goodra: 102-120 (26.5 - 31.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

          252+ SpA Choice Specs Chandelure Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 4+ SpD Assault Vest Goodra: 100-118 (26 - 30.7%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

          252 SpA Goodra Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Chandelure: 135-159 (51.7 - 60.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

          Goodra=win

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          Old December 23rd, 2013 (4:04 PM).
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          Garchomp @ Choice Band
          Trait: Sand Veil
          EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
          Jolly Nature
          - Outrage
          - Stone Edge
          - Earthquake
          - Dual Chop

          252 SpA Goodra Dragon Pulse vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 284-336 (79.3 - 93.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

          252 Atk Choice Band Garchomp Dual Chop (2 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Goodra: 528-624 (137.5 - 162.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO252 Atk Choice Band Garchomp Outrage vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Goodra: 788-930 (205.2 - 242.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

          Could easily switch into a Dragon Pulse coming from a weak Goodra, tank the Dragon Pulse 100%, then outspeed on next turn and Dual Chop/Outrage it's way to victory!

          ----If taking that much from Dragon Pulse doesn't make it a counter, let me know. XD

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          Old December 23rd, 2013 (11:15 PM).
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            Bronzong @ Choice Specs
            Trait: Levitate
            EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SAtk
            Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
            - Hidden Power [Ice]
            - Flash Cannon
            - Trick
            - Psychic

            A totally viable set in the OU metagame, imo. Bronzong resists Garchomp's moves and takes less than 45% from Outrage.

            252 Atk Choice Band Garchomp Outrage vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Bronzong: 129-152 (38.1 - 44.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

            252+ SpA Choice Specs Bronzong Hidden Power Ice vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 356-420 (99.4 - 117.3%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

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            Old December 24th, 2013 (12:12 AM).
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            Darmanitan (M) @ Choice Band
            Trait: Sheer Force
            EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
            Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
            - Rock Slide
            - Flare Blitz
            - Earthquake
            - Brick Break

            Bronzong would be stuck to Hidden Power thanks to Choice Specs, which Darmanitan would be able to endure just fine. With a bit of help from Flare Blitz, it could take Bronzong out quite instantly. :p

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              Slowbro (F) @ Leftovers
              Trait: Regenerator
              EVs: 248 HP / 244 Def / 16 SAtk
              Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
              - Surf
              - Psyshock
              - Slack Off
              - Ice Beam

              252+ Atk Choice Band Sheer Force Darmanitan Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro: 149-176 (37.8 - 44.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

              4 SpA Slowbro Surf vs. 4 HP / 4 SpD Darmanitan: 312-368 (88.6 - 104.5%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO

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              -Scrafty w/Leftovers
              Nature: Careful
              Ability: Shed Skin
              EVs: 252 HP, 252 Sp.Defense, 4 Attack
              Moves: Drain Punch, Bulk Up, Crunch, Rest

              16 SpA Slowbro Surf vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Scrafty: 66-78 (19.7 - 23.3%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery
              16 SpA Slowbro Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Scrafty: 44-52 (13.1 - 15.5%) -- possibly the worst move ever

              Scrafty has the bulk to tank Slowbro's attacks, which allows it to use Bulk Up a few times, so that Crunch goes from:
              4 Atk Scrafty Crunch vs. 248 HP / 244+ Def Slowbro: 108-128 (27.4 - 32.5%) -- 62.2% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

              to

              +2 4 Atk Scrafty Crunch vs. 248 HP / 244+ Def Slowbro: 216-254 (54.9 - 64.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

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              -Calm Mind
              -Hyper Voice
              -Shadow Ball
              -Hidden Power (Fire)
              Nature: Bold
              EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
              Item: Leftovers
              Ability: Pixilate

              Sylveon resists Scrafty's STABs, outspeeds it and KOs with Pixilate-boosted Hyper Voice.

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              Overgrow ----> Thick Fat
              - Synthesis
              - Sludge Bomb
              - Sleep Powder
              - Leech Seed

              Comes in, tanks everything Sylveon can do with ease and easily beats it with Thick Fat Sludge Bomb and Leech Seed.

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                Ferrothorn
                252 HP/252 Attack, Adamant/Brave nature
                Choice Band

                Gyro Ball
                ...other moves

                Immune to everything on the Venusaur set and 3HKOs or 4HKOs with Gyroball. There's only so many times Synthesis can be used.

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                Ferrothorn
                252 HP/252 Attack, Adamant/Brave nature
                Choice Band

                Gyro Ball
                ...other moves

                Immune to everything on the Venusaur set and 4HKOs with Gyroball. There's only so many times Synthesis can be used.

                You need to specify the other moves Ferrothorn should have. What coverage moves does Ferrothorn have to discourage other counters from switching in?

                Anyway:
                Charizard Y:

                -Fire Blast
                -Solar Beam
                -Focus Blast
                -Dragon Pulse
                Nature: Timid
                EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
                Item: Charizardite Y

                While Charizard Y may not like Band-boosted Explosions from Ferrothorn, it takes a pittance from Power Whip and doesn't care much about Gyro Ball, despite its high Speed. It also OHKOs Ferrothorn with a STAB Sun-boosted Fire Blast.

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                Ability: Sap Sipper
                EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
                Modest nature
                - Draco Meteor
                - Thunderbolt
                - Sludge Wave
                - Fire Blast

                The strongest Charizard can do is a 4hko w/ Dragon Pulse whilst Goodra can 2hko with Thunderbolt or Draco Meteor.

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                Tyranitar (M) @ Tyranitarite
                Trait: Sand Stream
                EVs: 252 Atk / 8 SDef / 248 Spd
                Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
                - Dragon Dance
                - Stone Edge
                - Crunch
                - Outrage

                Goodra's Special Attack would be heavily decreased when it uses Draco Meteor. After that, Tyranitar could come in, switch into its mega-form, and knock it out with Outrage.

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                Tyranitar (M) @ Tyranitarite
                Trait: Sand Stream
                EVs: 252 Atk / 8 SDef / 248 Spd
                Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
                - Dragon Dance
                - Stone Edge
                - Crunch
                - Outrage

                Goodra's Special Attack would be heavily decreased when it uses Draco Meteor. After that, Tyranitar could come in, switch into its mega-form, and knock it out with Outrage.

                Eh, Stone Edge hits Goodra hard enough already.

                Anyway:

                Cobalion:

                -Swords Dance
                -Close Combat
                -Iron Head
                -Stone Edge
                Nature: Jolly
                EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
                Item: Life Orb

                Cobalion resists all of Tyranitar's offensive moves. It can also grab a free Attack boost from Crunch courtesy of Justified. Close Combat also wrecks Mega Tyranitar.

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                Donphan @ Leftovers
                Nature: Impish
                Ability: Sturdy
                EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 Spe
                -Earthquake
                -Ice shard
                (-Rapid spin)
                (-Stealth rock)

                Tanks all of Cobalion's hits and 2HKOs back with Earthquake.

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                  Age: 21
                  Gender: Male
                  Nature: Calm
                  Posts: 211

                  Suicune @ Leftovers
                  Trait: Pressure
                  EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
                  Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
                  - Surf
                  - Calm Mind
                  - Ice Beam
                  - Hidden Power [Electric]

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