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Old December 25th, 2013 (11:21 PM).
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Ferrothorn (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Iron Barbs
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SDef
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
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Endures all attacks by Suicune, then finishes it off with a Power Whip or two.
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Old December 25th, 2013 (11:49 PM). Edited December 26th, 2013 by Jin Of The Gale.
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    Heatran (M) @ Air Balloon
    Trait: Flash Fire
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Fire Blast/Flamethrower
    - Earth Power
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Dragon Pulse

    252+ Atk Choice Band Ferrothorn Explosion vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 170-200 (52.4 - 61.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    252+ Atk Choice Band Ferrothorn Power Whip vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 61-72 (18.8 - 22.2%) -- possible 5HKO
    252+ Atk Choice Band Ferrothorn Gyro Ball (91 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 46-55 (14.1 - 16.9%) -- possible 6HKO
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    Old December 26th, 2013 (10:18 AM).
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      Volcarona (F) @ Life Orb
      Ability: Flame Body
      EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe
      Modest/Timid
      - Quiver Dance
      - Bug Buzz
      - Fire Blast
      - Hidden Power (Water)

      Switches into a fire move, sets up a Quiver Dance and that's all she wrote! After the Quiver Dance, its special defense is high enough to take anything the Heatran set above can throw at it.
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      Old December 26th, 2013 (10:46 AM).
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      I don't think Volcarona quite counters Heatran, but whatever.


      -Salamence w/Choice Scarf
      Nature: Hasty
      Ability: Moxie
      EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Sp.Attack
      Moves: Dragon Claw, Stone Edge, Steel Wing, Fire Blast

      A little different from the normal set, but it works.

      +1 252+ SpA Life Orb Volcarona Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Salamence: 238-281 (71.9 - 84.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
      Salamence survives Volcarona's most powerful attack against it even at +1, then outspeeds due to Choice Scarf, and OHKOs with Stone Edge (which Volcarona has no hope of surviving).
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      Old December 26th, 2013 (11:43 AM).
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      Corsola @ Leftovers
      Ability: Regenerator
      EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
      Bold Nature
      - Scald
      - Ice Beam
      - Recover
      - Toxic
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      252 Atk Salamence Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Corsola: 109-129 (34.7 - 41%)
      4 SpA Corsola Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Salamence: 224-264 (67.6 - 79.7%)
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      Old December 26th, 2013 (11:57 AM).
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      Well, there's something that probably hasn't been used before.

      Bit sad for Salamence getting walled by Corsola, of all things.


      -Sceptile w/Occa Berry
      Nature: Lonely
      Ability: Overgrow
      EVs: 252 AttacK, 252 Speed, 4 Sp.Attack
      Moves: Leaf Blade, Giga Drain, Focus Blast, Rock Slide

      4 SpA Corsola Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Sceptile: 106-126 (37.7 - 44.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

      And Leaf Blade/Giga Drain don't really need calcs...
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      Old December 26th, 2013 (2:13 PM).
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      Escavalier:

      -Megahorn
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      Nature: Brave
      EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 SDef
      Item: Assault Vest
      Ability: Overcoat

      Escavalier quad resists Leaf Blade and Giga Drain; it's also able to take a Focus Blast nicely thanks to the buffed Special Defense granted by Assault Vest. It still has enough physical bulk to tank a Rock Slide, and OHKOs Sceptile with Megahorn.
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      Old December 26th, 2013 (7:34 PM).
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      Ninetales (M) @ Air Balloon
      Trait: Drought
      EVs: 80 HP / 56 Def / 252 SAtk / 120 SDef
      Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
      - Fire Blast
      - Energy Ball
      - Will-O-Wisp
      - Flamethrower

      Could take down Escavalier with either Flamethrower or Fire Blast.

      252 SpA Ninetales Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Escavalier in Sun: 508-600 (147.6 - 174.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
      252 SpA Ninetales Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Escavalier in Sun: 412-492 (119.7 - 143%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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      Cradily @ Leftovers
      Ability: Suction Cups
      EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
      Careful Nature
      - Curse
      - Rock Slide
      - Rest
      - Sleep Talk
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      252 SpA Ninetales Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Cradily in Sun: 136-162 (36.1 - 43%)
      0 Atk Cradily Rock Slide vs. 60 HP / 0 Def Ninetales: 174-206 (57.6 - 68.2%)
      +6 0 Atk Cradily Rock Slide vs. 60 HP / 0 Def Ninetales: 686-810 (227.1 - 268.2%)
      Just realized that the Ninetales had not only Flamethrower but also Fire Blast. It does quite a bit, boo.
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      Old December 26th, 2013 (7:58 PM). Edited December 26th, 2013 by Tyrael.
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      Chandelure @ Choice Scarf
      Trait: Flash Fire
      EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
      Timid Nature
      - Shadow Ball
      - Energy Ball
      - Fire Blast
      - Overheat

      252 SpA Flash Fire Chandelure Fire Blast vs. 80 HP / 120+ SpD Ninetales in Sun: 177-209 (57.6 - 68%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

      252 SpA Ninetales Energy Ball vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Chandelure: 39-46 (14.9 - 17.6%) -- possible 6HKO

      Chandy is immune to anything that Ninetales can do, bar Energy which doesn't do anything to begin with. It can easily come in, take a Fire attack to get Flash Fire, then 2HKO Ninetales with Fire Blast.


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      Magnezone @ Choice Specs
      Trait: Magnet Pull
      EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
      Modest Nature
      - Flash Cannon
      - HP Fire
      - Thunderbolt
      - Volt Switch

      0 Atk Cradily Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 30-36 (8.7 - 10.4%) -- possibly the worst move ever
      +6 0 Atk Cradily Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 120-141 (34.8 - 40.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

      252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Cradily: 296-350 (78.7 - 93%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

      Magnezone takes pretty much nothing from unboosted Rock Slide and can manage to take a few +6 as it is. Will 2HKO back without a doubt with Flash Cannon.
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      Old December 27th, 2013 (1:35 AM).
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        Gastrodon (M) @ Wise Glasses
        Trait: Storm Drain
        EVs: 172 HP / 84 Def / 252 SAtk
        Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
        - Surf
        - Earth Power
        - Ice Beam
        - Recover

        252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Flash Cannon vs. 172 HP / 0 SpD Gastrodon: 127-150 (31.2 - 36.9%) -- 79.1% chance to 3HKO
        252+ SpA Wise Glasses Gastrodon Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Magnezone: 612-724 (177.9 - 210.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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        Old December 27th, 2013 (6:20 AM).
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        Mantine @Life Orb
        Ability: Water Absorb
        EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 SpD
        Nature: Modest
        - Hydro Pump
        - Hidden Power Grass
        - Air Slash
        - Rest

        252+ SpA Wise Glasses Gastrodon Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Mantine: 54-64 (19.8 - 23.5%) -- possible 5HKO

        252 SpA Life Orb Mantine Hidden Power Grass vs. 172 HP / 0 SpD Gastrodon: 291-348 (71.6 - 85.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

        ...why did I do this again?
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        Old December 27th, 2013 (4:16 PM).
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        Thundurus-T @ Life Orb
        Trait: Volt Absorb
        EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
        Timid Nature
        - Agility
        - Thunderbolt
        - Grass Knot
        - Focus Blast

        Should be able to defeat Mantine pretty easily with Thunderbolt.
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        Old December 28th, 2013 (11:59 AM).
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          Celebi @ Leftovers
          Trait: Natural Cure
          EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
          Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
          - Nasty Plot
          - Giga Drain
          - Earth Power
          - Psychic

          252 SpA Life Orb Thundurus-T Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Celebi: 104-122 (30.4 - 35.6%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
          252+ SpA Celebi Psychic vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Thundurus-T: 162-192 (54 - 64%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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          Counter a legendary with another legendary, the counter THAT legendary with yet another one!


          -Latias w/Life Orb
          Nature: Timid
          Ability: Levitate
          EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
          Moves: Dragon Pulse, Ice Beam, Recover, Psyshock

          252 SpA Life Orb Latias Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Celebi: 229-270 (66.9 - 78.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

          252+ SpA Celebi Psychic vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 54-63 (17.8 - 20.8%) -- possible 5HKO

          252+ SpA Celebi Giga Drain vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 45-53 (14.9 - 17.5%) -- possible 6HKO

          Latias wins.

          And whoever's next, try to do it without using a legendary so we don't get into a legendaries loop.
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          Old December 28th, 2013 (2:05 PM).
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          Counter a legendary with another legendary, the counter THAT legendary with yet another one!


          -Latias w/Life Orb
          Nature: Timid
          Ability: Levitate
          EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
          Moves: Dragon Pulse, Ice Beam, Recover, Psyshock

          252 SpA Life Orb Latias Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Celebi: 229-270 (66.9 - 78.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

          252+ SpA Celebi Psychic vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 54-63 (17.8 - 20.8%) -- possible 5HKO

          252+ SpA Celebi Giga Drain vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 45-53 (14.9 - 17.5%) -- possible 6HKO

          Latias wins.

          And whoever's next, try to do it without using a legendary so we don't get into a legendaries loop.
          Who cares, they are ou, so whats the big deal?

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          Old December 28th, 2013 (2:20 PM).
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            Torkoal (F) @ Leftovers
            Trait: Shell Armor
            EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SDef
            Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
            - Rapid Spin
            - Lava Plume
            - Stealth Rock
            - Yawn

            Torkoal can take any of Genesect's attacks and OHKO with Lava Plume.
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            Old December 28th, 2013 (2:28 PM). Edited December 29th, 2013 by ExtremeStyle.
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              Kingdra (F) Dragon Fang
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              EVs:252 Speed / 252 Spa / 6 Hp
              Careful nature
              -Dragon pulse
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              -Surf
              -Dragon Dance
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              Old December 28th, 2013 (2:39 PM).
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                Kingdra (F) Dragon Fang
                Trait:Sniper
                EVs:252 Speed / 252 Atk / 6 Spa
                Careful nature
                -Dragon pulse
                -Dragon claw
                -Surf
                -Dragon Dance
                First of all, Kingdra does not learn Dragon Claw so the 252 EVs it has on its Attack stat is useless.

                Empoleon (F) @ Life Orb
                Trait: Torrent
                EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
                Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
                - Agility
                - Hydro Pump
                - Ice Beam
                - Grass Knot

                Grass Knot 2HKOs Kingdra.
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                Old December 28th, 2013 (6:00 PM).
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                Black Kyurem @ Choice Band
                Trait: Teravolt
                EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
                Naive Nature(+Spd, -SDef)
                • Outrage
                • Ice Beam
                • Stone Edge
                • Fusion Bolt

                Knocks Empoleon down with only just one Fusion Bolt attack. If you use Outrage, then Empoleon could be defeated within two turns.

                252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-B Fusion Bolt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Empoleon: 488-576 (157.9 - 186.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
                252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-B Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Empoleon: 219-258 (70.8 - 83.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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                  Ferrothorn (F) @ Leftovers
                  Trait: Iron Barbs
                  EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
                  Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
                  - Protect
                  - Leech Seed
                  - Stealth Rock
                  - Gyro Ball

                  252 Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-B Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ferrothorn: 107-126 (30.3 - 35.7%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
                  0 SpA Teravolt Kyurem-B Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Ferrothorn: 100-118 (28.4 - 33.5%) -- 93.2% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

                  4 Atk Ferrothorn Gyro Ball (116 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyurem-B: 236-282 (60.3 - 72.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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                  Torkoal @White Herb
                  Ability: Shell Armor
                  EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
                  Nature: Timid
                  - Shell Smash
                  - Fire Blast
                  - Earth Power
                  - Hidden Power Grass

                  4 Atk Ferrothorn Gyro Ball (55 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Torkoal: 21-25 (7.4 - 8.8%) -- possibly the worst move ever
                  4 Atk Ferrothorn Gyro Ball (111 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Torkoal: 42-51 (14.9 - 18.1%) -- possible 6HKO

                  252 SpA Torkoal Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Ferrothorn: 472-564 (134 - 160.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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                    Latios (M) @ Choice Specs
                    Trait: Levitate
                    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
                    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
                    - Draco Meteor
                    - Surf
                    - Psyshock
                    - Trick

                    Latios takes less than 25% from all of Torkoal's moves with no stat boosts. It can survive a +2 Fire Blast and OHKO Torkoal with either Surf or Draco Meteor.

                    +2 252 SpA Torkoal Fire Blast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Latios: 124-147 (41 - 48.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
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                    -Jirachi w/Leftovers
                    Nature: Careful
                    Ability: Serene Grace
                    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Sp.Defense, 4 Speed
                    Moves: Iron Head, Thunder Wave, Wish, Protect

                    252 SpA Choice Specs Latios Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Jirachi: 114-135 (28.2 - 33.4%) -- 94.6% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

                    252 SpA Choice Specs Latios Surf vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Jirachi: 107-126 (26.4 - 31.1%) -- 11.5% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

                    Specs Latios can only 4HKO 'Rachi at best. Trick doesn't matter much, since it doesn't have priority, so Jirachi can Thunder Wave, then spam Iron Head (which will go first since Latios's Speed is cut by paralysis), which is ok to get locked into since:

                    0 Atk Jirachi Iron Head vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Latios: 103-123 (34.1 - 40.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

                    So it can kill Latios before Latios kills it (not to mention paraflinch).
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                    Old December 29th, 2013 (12:27 PM).
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                      Nature: Jolly
                      Ability: Rough Skin
                      EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 4 Hp

                      Earthquake, Sword Dance, Outrage, Substitute

                      Iron Head: 0 Atk Jirachi Iron Head vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 91-108 (25.4 - 30.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

                      Earthquake: 252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Jirachi: 326-386 (80.6 - 95.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

                      It is immune to TW and can either SD or Sub on the switch.
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