Counter that Pokémon Page 14

Started by Jin Of The Gale September 21st, 2013 8:57 PM
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Posted September 21st, 2015
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9.4 Years
Regice
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Clear body
EVs: 252 Spa, Def Spd, 4 Hp
-Explosion
-Ice beam
-Blizzard
-Hyper beam

With massive Special defense,Regice can take almost any special hit.It has also good physical defense of 100.
So,Regice takes a hit because he's slow and then Ice beam/Blizzard and Garchomp is destroyed.

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Regice
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Clear body
EVs: 252 Spa, Def Spd, 4 Hp
-Explosion
-Ice beam
-Blizzard
-Hyper beam

With massive Special defense,Regice can take almost any special hit.It has also good physical defense of 100.
So,Regice takes a hit because he's slow and then Ice beam/Blizzard and Garchomp is destroyed.
Regice is a terrible counter for Garchomp because it still takes massive damage from its Swords Dance-boosted moves, and may Arceus have mercy on you if Garchomp had a Substitute up before you switched in. If it did have a Substitute, Garchomp can set up a Swords Dance as Regice breaks it. Earthquake or Outrage backed by +2 Attack can then OHKO Regice.

Your set has a lot of flaws. 1. Jolly is terrible because it wastes away its good Special Attack. 2. It's pointless to invest in Speed on a Pokemon that's very slow unless it's meant to outspeed certain walls. 3. Hyper Beam is a terrible move because of its recharge turn making Regice a sitting duck. 4. Explosion is weak running off of base 50 Attack. 5. Thunderbolt and Focus Blast are coverage moves you could've used.

Anyway:

Klinklang:

-Shift Gear
-Gear Grind
-Wild Charge
-Return
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 100 HP/252 Atk/156 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body

Klinklang resists all of Regice's moves, giving it time to set up a Shift Gear, followed by hitting it hard with Gear Grind.

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-Rotom H w/Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Attack
Moves: Overheat, Thunderbolt, Will-o-Wisp, Thunder Wave

+1 252+ Atk Klinklang Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-H: 105-124 (34.5 - 40.7%) -- 54.6% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Then Rotom-H toasts Klinklang with Overheat.
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Swampert (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Counter
- Mirror Coat
- Earthquake
- Waterfall

Walls Rotom-H, and is able to knock it out with just one Waterfall.
Rotom-Mow @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Volt Switch
- Will-O-Wisp
- Thunderbolt

Obviously Rotom-C. Takes nothing from Swampert's STABs, and can easily OHKO with Leaf Storm

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Virizion @ Life Orb
Trait: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Leaf Blade
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge
- Swords Dance

Could defeat Rotom with either two Stone Edges or Close Combats. If it manages to set up Swords Dance somehow, then it should be able to OHKO Rotom with any of its moves.
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Amoonguss (F) @ Black Sludge
Trait: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 228 Def / 28 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Spore
- Giga Drain
- Clear Smog
- Sludge Bomb

Amoongus is bulky enough to endure Virizion's moves.

252+ Atk Life Orb Virizion Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 228+ Def Amoonguss: 112-133 (25.9 - 30.7%) -- 1.8% chance to 4HKO after Black Sludge recovery

If Virizion uses Stone Edge when Amoongus is brought out, it'll be able to 3HKO Virizion with ease after it uses Spore on the following turn.

28 SpA Amoonguss Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Virizion: 140-168 (43.3 - 52%) -- 9.4% chance to 2HKO

If Virizion sets up Swords Dance, the combo of the aforementioned moves can be used once again to defeat it.

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Virizion Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 228+ Def Amoonguss: 222-263 (51.3 - 60.8%) -- 91.8% chance to 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery

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Volcarona @Chesto Berry
Nature: Modest
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 160 Hp, 236, SpAtk, 112 Sped

Fiery Dance, Quiver Dance, Rest, Bug Buzz

28 SpA Amoonguss Sludge Bomb vs. 160 HP / 0 SpD Volcarona: 84-100 (23.9 - 28.4%) -- possible 5HKO

236+ SpA Volcarona Fiery Dance vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Amoonguss: 354-416 (81.9 - 96.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery

The only way that mushroom has a chance is if he uses Spore on the switch-->gets rid of Chesto Berry-->survives first hit --> uses Spore again. With Sleep Clause active it's GG.
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-Tyranitar w/Assault Vest
Nature: Sassy
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Sp.Defense, 4 Attack
Moves: Stone Edge, Crunch, Earthquake, Fire Blast

+1 236+ SpA Volcarona Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 158-188 (39.1 - 46.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Avoids the 2HKO thanks to maximum investment in special bulk, Assault Vest, and the sand, then easily OHKOs Volcarona with Stone Edge.
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Quagsire (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Recover
- Scald
- Earthquake
- Toxic

4 Atk Tyranitar Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Quagsire: 90-106 (22.8 - 26.9%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
4 Atk Quagsire Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 174-206 (43 - 50.9%) -- 4.7% chance to 2HKO

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Trevenant:

-Horn Leech
-Earthquake
-Will-o-Wisp
-Rest
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/180 Def/76 Spe
Item: Lum Berry
Ability: Harvest

Trevenant takes a pittance from both of Quagsire's offensive moves and KOs back with Horn Leech. While Trevenant won't like taking burn or poison, it can Rest it off.

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Regice is a terrible counter for Garchomp because it still takes massive damage from its Swords Dance-boosted moves, and may Arceus have mercy on you if Garchomp had a Substitute up before you switched in. If it did have a Substitute, Garchomp can set up a Swords Dance as Regice breaks it. Earthquake or Outrage backed by +2 Attack can then OHKO Regice.

Your set has a lot of flaws. 1. Jolly is terrible because it wastes away its good Special Attack. 2. It's pointless to invest in Speed on a Pokemon that's very slow unless it's meant to outspeed certain walls. 3. Hyper Beam is a terrible move because of its recharge turn making Regice a sitting duck. 4. Explosion is weak running off of base 50 Attack. 5. Thunderbolt and Focus Blast are coverage moves you could've used.
Its even funnier cos the chomp set has Yache Berry. XD


Anyways

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252 SAtk / 252 speed / 6 Sp.Def
Modest Nature
- Fire Blast
- Hurricane
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- U-Turn

Switches into everything with virtual immunity and decimates Trevenant back.
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Lunatone @ Assault Vest
252 HP/ 120 Sp. Atk/ 136 Sp. Def
Nature: Calm
-Psychic
-Hidden Power Rock
-Stealth Rock
-Calm Mind

252+ SpA Choice Specs Moltres Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 136+ SpD Assault Vest Lunatone: 85-101 (24.7 - 29.3%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Moltres Hidden Power Fighting vs. 252 HP / 136+ SpD Assault Vest Lunatone: 63-75 (18.3 - 21.8%) -- possible 5HKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Moltres Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 136+ SpD Assault Vest Lunatone: 85-101 (24.7 - 29.3%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO

0- Atk Moltres U-turn vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Lunatone: 130-154 (37.7 - 44.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

120 SpA Lunatone Hidden Power Rock vs. 0 HP / 6 [4?] SpD Moltres: 324-384 (100.9 - 119.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Regardless, if 6 Sp. Def was a typo as opposed to 4, it still didn't matter. Lunatone ftw. Biggest worry for Lunatone is U-Turn, though, and I'm not sure how exactly it'll work, so maybe this set is inherently flawed. Oh well.
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Lunatone @ Assault Vest
252 HP/ 120 Sp. Atk/ 136 Sp. Def
Nature: Calm
-Psychic
-Hidden Power Rock
-Stealth Rock
-Calm Mind

252+ SpA Choice Specs Moltres Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 136+ SpD Assault Vest Lunatone: 85-101 (24.7 - 29.3%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Moltres Hidden Power Fighting vs. 252 HP / 136+ SpD Assault Vest Lunatone: 63-75 (18.3 - 21.8%) -- possible 5HKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Moltres Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 136+ SpD Assault Vest Lunatone: 85-101 (24.7 - 29.3%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO

0- Atk Moltres U-turn vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Lunatone: 130-154 (37.7 - 44.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

120 SpA Lunatone Hidden Power Rock vs. 0 HP / 6 [4?] SpD Moltres: 324-384 (100.9 - 119.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Regardless, if 6 Sp. Def was a typo as opposed to 4, it still didn't matter. Lunatone ftw. Biggest worry for Lunatone is U-Turn, though, and I'm not sure how exactly it'll work, so maybe this set is inherently flawed. Oh well.
Assault Vest prevents Lunatone from using status moves like Calm Mind and Stealth Rock. -_-

Anyway:
Bisharp:

-Swords Dance
-Sucker Punch
-Iron Head
-Knock Off
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 124 HP/252 Atk/132 Spe
Item: Dread Plate
Ability: Defiant

Bisharp is immune to Psychic and tanks an HP Rock before slamming Lunatone with a super effective STAB.

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-Poliwrath w/Leftovers
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Moves: Waterfall, Brick Break, Ice Punch, Earthquake

Counters Bisharp since it can come in on any of its moves without being OHKOed, even at +2, then outspeeds and smashes it with Brick Break.
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Celebi @ Choice Specs
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Leaf Storm
- Earth Power
- Shadow Ball
- Psychic

With Leaf Storm, Jellicent could be easily defeated. Shadow Ball works, too. Also, it's got enough bulk to endure a few Scalds that Jellicent throws at it.
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252 SAtk / 252 Speed / 6 HP
Modest Nature
Trait: Serene Grace
- Nasty Plot
- Air Slash
- Dazzling Gleam
- Fire Blast

Hard walls and doesnt take anything from Fire Blast really, then returns the KO with DG.
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Rhyperior @ Choice Band
Trait: Solid Rock
EVs: 252 HP / 140 Atk / 116 SpD
Adamant Nature

- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Megahorn
- ThunderPunch

Stone Edge easily OHKOes Togekiss, while Dazzling Gleam fails to 2HKO (albeit barely).

140+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 552-650 (177.4 - 209%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Togekiss Dazzling Gleam vs. 252 HP / 116 SpD Rhyperior: 183-216 (42.1 - 49.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
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Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Scald
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Due to Choice Band, Rhyperior would be stuck to Stone Edge, which Suicune is bulky enough to endure. After it's sent out on the field, it would immediately use Scald and take down Rhyperior. If it's ever in low HP, it should always be able to recover itself with Rest. With Sleep Talk, it could continue attacking while it's asleep. :]

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10.2 Years
Ludicolo @ Life Orb
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Giga Drain
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
- Protect

4 SpA Suicune Scald vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Ludicolo: 19-23 (6.2 - 7.6%) -- possibly the worst move ever

252+ SpA Life Orb Ludicolo Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Suicune: 242-289 (59.9 - 71.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery










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Lickilicky @ Leftovers
Ability: Cloud Nine
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 Atk
Careful Nature
- Return
- Toxic
- Wish
- Protect

The premiere special wall in NU. The perfect pokemon to counter one of the best sweepers in NU.


4 Atk Lickilicky Return vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Ludicolo: 129-153 (42.7 - 50.6%) -- 1.2% chance to 2HKO

252+ SpA Life Orb Ludicolo Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Lickilicky: 101-121 (23.8 - 28.5%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Life Orb Ludicolo Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Lickilicky: 149-177 (35.1 - 41.7%) -- 81% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Lickilicky can Wish itself to sustain that damage while Ludicolo is getting worn down thanks to Life Orb recoil. Lickilicky can either Toxic stall, or go on the offensive with Return. Either way, it's gg to Ludicolo.
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Sableye @ Leftovers
Prankster
252 SpD 252 HP 4 Def
+SpD, -Atk

Taunt
Will-O-Wisp
Foul Play
Recover

Burn it when it tries to go to shield forme, taunt the dance, recover the minimal Shadow Sneak damage, foul play taunted Aegislash.