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Conkeldurr (M) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Drain Punch
- Mach Punch
- Ice Punch

252+ Atk Golem Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 178-210 (42.9 - 50.7%) -- 2.3% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Golem Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 89-105 (21.4 - 25.3%) -- 0.1% chance to 4HKO

252+ Atk Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Golem: 228-270 (62.6 - 74.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Age 27
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Mid-16th Century
Seen August 10th, 2022
Posted February 5th, 2015
211 posts
10.4 Years
Azumarill (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Huge Power
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Play Rough
- Waterfall
- Aqua Jet
- Ice Punch

252+ Atk Conkeldurr Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 73-87 (18 - 21.5%) -- possible 5HKO
252+ Atk Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 85-101 (21 - 25%) -- 0% chance to 4HKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 560-660 (135.2 - 159.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 372-440 (89.8 - 106.2%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

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SRK

Age 29
Male
Philly, PA
Seen September 1st, 2014
Posted April 12th, 2014
221 posts
9.7 Years
Azumarill (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Huge Power
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Play Rough
- Waterfall
- Aqua Jet
- Ice Punch

252+ Atk Conkeldurr Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 73-87 (18 - 21.5%) -- possible 5HKO
252+ Atk Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 85-101 (21 - 25%) -- 0% chance to 4HKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 560-660 (135.2 - 159.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 372-440 (89.8 - 106.2%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
Modest Mega Venusaur @MegaStone
252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 DEF
Giga Drain / Sludge Bomb / HP Dark / Leech Seed

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Venusaur: 50-59 (13.7 - 16.2%) -- possible 7HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Venusaur: 112-132 (30.7 - 36.2%) -- 58.8% chance to 3HKO

252+ SpA Mega Venusaur Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Azumarill: 308-366 (76.2 - 90.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Mega Venusaur Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Azumarill: 372-438 (92 - 108.4%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

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-Skamory w/Leftovers
Nature: Impish
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP, 232 Defense, 24 Sp.Defense
Moves: Brave Bird, Whirlwind, Roost, Toxic


252+ SpA Mega Venusaur Hidden Power Dark vs. 252 HP / 24 SpD Skarmory: 90-106 (26.9 - 31.7%) -- 36.7% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery


0 Atk Skarmory Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Venusaur: 182-216 (50 - 59.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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KID BUU PAWAA

Age 24
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Eastern Europe
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9.9 Years
Jellicent @ Choice Specs
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature

- Water Spout
- Hydro Pump / Scald
- Ice Beam
- Shadow Ball

252+ SpA Choice Specs Jellicent Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Heatran: 306-362 (79.2 - 93.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Jellicent Scald vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Heatran: 222-264 (57.5 - 68.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Either move 2HKOes specially defensive Heatran, which can't do squat in return other than Roar it. If it's raining, Hydro Pump OHKOes.

89% 252+ SpA Choice Specs Jellicent Water Spout (133 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Heatran: 372-438 (96.3 - 113.4%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

Also take note that unless Lava Plume crits, Jellicent has a chance to ohko it with Water Spout provided it hasn't been weakened.

Specs Jellicent is meant to be used in rain though, where it can fool opponents into thinking it's running a defensive set, only to be smashed by a poweful choice specs-boosted water-type attack.
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Shaymin @ Life Orb
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 232 HP / 252 SAtk / 24 Speed
Modest Nature
- Rest
- Seed Flare
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Earth Power

Knocks it out with Seed Flare without any sort of trouble.

252+ SpA Life Orb Shaymin Seed Flare vs. 252 HP / 4+ SpD Jellicent: 408-484 (100.9 - 119.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Jellicent Shadow Ball vs. 232 HP / 4 SpD Shaymin: 147-174 (36.8 - 43.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

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-Togekiss w/Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Attack
Moves: Dazzling Gleam, Air Slash, Thunder Wave, Roost


Is immune to Outrage and Earthquake, while Fire Punch and Extreme Speed are 4HKOs:


252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Fire Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Togekiss: 103-122 (27.5 - 32.6%) -- 72.4% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Togekiss: 110-130 (29.4 - 34.7%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery


Could just stall out those moves with Roost and paraflinch.
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lordfeebas

Competitive n00b

Age 22
Male
Noland, NO
Seen April 8th, 2014
Posted March 29th, 2014
3 posts
9.1 Years
Raikou w/ Choice Specs
Nature: Modest
Ability: Pressure
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-Thunderbolt
-Aura Sphere
-Hidden Power Ice
-Extrasensory

Raikou is not only immune to Thunder Wave but takes miniscule damage from anything Togekiss has to throw at it.

4 SpA Togekiss Dazzling Gleam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Raikou: 102-120 (31.6 - 37.2%) -- 82.6% chance to 3HKO

4 SpA Togekiss Air Slash vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Raikou: 47-56 (14.5 - 17.3%) -- possible 6HKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Raikou Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Togekiss: 392-464 (104.8 - 124%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Raikou outspeeds Togekiss (by a substantial amount) and is able to 1HKO. It can take a Dazzling Gleam to the face and can switch in to 3 layers of spikes as well as stealth rock and still come out alive. Specs Raikou still outspeeds in the condition of sticky web.
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Chansey @ Eviolite
Nature: Bold
Ability: Natural Cure
EV's: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
-Softboiled
-Aromatherapy
-Toxic
-Seismic Toss

This one pretty much speaks for itself.

252+ SpA Choice Specs Raikou Aura Sphere vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 136-160 (19.3 - 22.7%)

Unless Raikou gets seriously lucky and manages to flinch Chansey with Extrasensory 16 times in a row, Chansey walls Raikou and takes it out in three hits with Seismic Toss.
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-Lucario w/Life Orb
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Defense
Moves: Close Combat, Swords Dance, Bullet Punch, Earthquake

Is immune to Toxic, and is only 3HKO'd by Seismic Toss. And since Chansey is lacking in Defense EVs, Close Combat sends Chansey to the hospital, not as a nurse, but as a patient.
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Zeffy

g'day

Male
Seen December 1st, 2022
Posted January 30th, 2021
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14.1 Years

Landorus-Therian (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Stealth Rock
- U-turn
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

Landy-t smash!! (Translation: Resists and/or is immune to all of Lucario's attacks and ohkos back with Earthquake)

Sonata

Don't let me disappear

Age 27
Male
Indiana
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10.2 Years

Conkeldurr (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Iron Fist
Nature: Adamant
EV: 252 Atk/252 HP/ 4 SpD
- Drain Punch
- Smack Down
- Payback
- Ice Punch

Successfully counters your Landorus and anything you may try to send in (except fairy of course)

Khoshi

とてもかわいい!

Age 24
Male
Sydney, Australia
Seen January 3rd, 2020
Posted October 16th, 2019
2,646 posts
10.1 Years

Azumarill @ Choice Band
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 180 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 72 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Ice Punch
- Aqua Jet
- Play Rough
- Superpower

252+ Atk Iron Fist Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 180 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 102-121 (26.4 - 31.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252+ Atk Conkeldurr Smack Down vs. 180 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 77-91 (19.9 - 23.5%) -- possible 5HKO
252+ Atk Conkeldurr Payback (100 BP) vs. 180 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 76-90 (19.6 - 23.3%) -- possible 5HKO
252+ Atk Iron Fist Conkeldurr Ice Punch vs. 180 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 68-81 (17.6 - 20.9%) -- possible 5HKO
walls it pretty well.

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 560-660 (135.2 - 159.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 126-148 (30.4 - 35.7%) -- 41.8% chance to 3HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Superpower vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 249-293 (60.1 - 70.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
hits it pretty hard.

Zeffy

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Seen December 1st, 2022
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14.1 Years

Qwilfish @ Black Sludge
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Poison Jab
- Waterfall
- Spikes
- Taunt

Qwilfish is the best

-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Qwilfish: 34-41 (10.1 - 12.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever
-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Qwilfish: 77-91 (23 - 27.2%) -- possible 5HKO after Black Sludge recovery
-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Qwilfish: 43-51 (12.8 - 15.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever
-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Qwilfish: 68-81 (20.3 - 24.2%) -- possible 6HKO after Black Sludge recovery

oh and

4 Atk Qwilfish Poison Jab vs. 180 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 200-236 (51.8 - 61.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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-Gastrodon w/Leftovers
Nature: Relaxed
Ability: Storm Drain
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Defense
Moves: Scald, Earth Power, Recover, Ice Beam


Gastrodon>Qwilfish
Nah ンン
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KID BUU PAWAA

Age 24
Male
Eastern Europe
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3,318 posts
9.9 Years
Celebi @ Life Orb
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 160 HP / 252 SpA / 96 Spe
Timid Nature

- Leaf Storm
- Giga Drain / Recover
- Hidden Power Ice
- Earth Power

Do I even need to explain?
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LightBlast

I am fire. I am... death!

Male
Dragon Den
Seen January 24th, 2017
Posted December 23rd, 2016
92 posts
9.9 Years


Charizard @CharizardniteY
Ability: Drought
Nature: Modest
Evs: SpAtk 252, Init 252, 6 Spdef

Fire Blast, Solar Beam, Roost/Flametrower, Focus Blast/Dragon Pulse

252 SpA Life Orb Celebi Hidden Power Ice vs. 4 HP / 6 SpD Mega Charizard Y: 64-75 (21.4 - 25.1%)

We all know Fire Blast nukes Celebi.
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Chansey (F) @ Eviolite
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 248 SDef / 8 Def
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Wish
- Thunder Wave
- Seismic Toss
- Heal Bell

Sort of difficult coming up with a counter for Charizard Y, haha. Anyway, Chansey should be able to do the pretty well; walls it hard enough, and could eventually stall it out. :]

252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 248+ SpD Eviolite Chansey in Sun: 145-172 (20.5 - 24.4%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Solar Beam vs. 252 HP / 248+ SpD Eviolite Chansey: 71-84 (10 - 11.9%) -- possible 9HKO

Chansey Seismic Toss vs. 0 HP Mega Charizard Y: 100-100 (33.6 - 33.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
you should know that charizard can also carry focus blast, anyway



Conkeldurr @ Flame Orb
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Mach Punch
- Ice Punch
- Knock Off

252+ Atk Guts Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eviolite Chansey: 618-728 (87.7 - 103.4%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

Also note that the burn helps in front of thunder wave

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Awesome Dragon

Male
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Seen May 16th, 2019
Posted June 6th, 2015
666 posts
11.3 Years


[email protected] Band
Nature: Jolly
Evs: 4 HP/252 Atk/ 252 Spd.

Moves:

Play Rough
Suerpower
Waterfall
Aqua jet

252 Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 510-602 (123.1 - 145.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Azumarill outspeeds Conkeldurr and kills it. If Conkeldurr goes for the Mach Punch then:

252+ Atk Guts Conkeldurr Mach Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 68-81 (19.8 - 23.6%) -- possible 5HKO

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-Qwilfish w/Black Sludge
Nature: Impish
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Attack
Moves: Waterfall, Poison Jab, Pain Spilt, Thunder Wave


Resists all of Azu's attacks, and:


4 Atk Qwilfish Poison Jab vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 200-236 (58.4 - 69%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Nah ンン
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