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Chocolate™

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Rhyperior @ Leftovers
Nature: Adamant.
Ability: Sturdy.
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atck/ 4 Def
Moves:

Earthquake.
Megahorn
Stone Edge
Hammer Arm

252+ Atk Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Luxray: 462-546 (126.9 - 150%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Makes sense doesn't it?

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Trevenant @Sitrus Berry
Trait: Harvest
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
-WoW
-Leech Seed
-Substitute
-Horn Leech

Burn, burn, burn!

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Trevenant: 229-271 (61.2 - 72.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power burned Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Trevenant: 114-135 (30.4 - 36%) -- 52.9% chance to 3HKO


4 Atk Trevenant Horn Leech vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 212-252 (52.4 - 62.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after burn damage

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Bisharp @Live Orb
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 32 HP/ 252 Atk / 224 Spe
Nature: Adamant
- Sucker Punch
- Knock Off
- Iron Head
- Sword Dance

252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Trevenant: 377-447 (100.8 - 119.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 184 Def / 252 HP / 72 Spd
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Protect
- Ice Fang
- Toxic

252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 184+ Def Gliscor: 118-140 (33.3 - 39.5%) -- 98.8% chance to 4HKO after Poison Heal
252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 184+ Def Gliscor: 118-140 (33.3 - 39.5%) -- 98.8% chance to 4HKO after Poison Heal
252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 184+ Def Gliscor: 142-169 (40.1 - 47.7%) -- 96.4% chance to 3HKO after Poison Heal

252 Atk Gliscor Earthquake vs. 32 HP / 0 Def Bisharp: 264-312 (94.6 - 111.8%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
0 Atk Gliscor Earthquake vs. 32 HP / 0 Def Bisharp: 206-246 (73.8 - 88.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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Rhyperior @ Leftovers
Nature: Adamant.
Ability: Sturdy.
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atck/ 4 Def
Moves:

Earthquake.
Megahorn
Stone Edge
Hammer Arm

252+ Atk Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Luxray: 462-546 (126.9 - 150%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Makes sense doesn't it?

No

CB Luxray SuperPower Vs 252/0 Rhyperior: 75.1% - 88.5%

Even with Solid Rock you take 93% minimum over two turns (one on the switch in) which is shaky as hell being if it rolls higher damage Rhyperior is KO'd and as thus Rhyperior is not a counter unless you invest significantly in its defenses because it cant switch in and doesnt outspeed so loses.

Definition of a counter: A Pokemon that can switch into the opposing Pokemon with little or no risk, and proceed to threaten a KO. Basically, a counter is the perfect switch-in to a Pokemon.
Anyway @ above post,

Charizard(Mega-Y) @ Charizardite-Y
Modest Nature
Trait: Blaze ---> Drought
252 S.Atk / 252 Speed/ 6 Def
- Fire Blast
- Solar Beam
- Focus Blast
- Dragon Pulse

Immune to EQ, neutral to Ice Fang and massacres you back with Fire move.
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-Mega Aerodactyl w/Aerodactylite
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Tough Claws
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Moves: Rock Slide, Earthquake, Aerial Ace, Thunder Fang

252+ SpA Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Aerodactyl in Sun: 180-212 (59.6 - 70.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Mega Charizard Y Focus Blast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Aerodactyl: 175-206 (57.9 - 68.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

And we all know Charizard hates rocks.
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Blastoise @ Blastoisinite
Trait: Mega Launcher
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 HP / 4 SpD
Nature: Modest
- Rapid Spin
- Water Pulse
- Dark Pulse
- Dragon Pulse

Knocks Aerodactyl down with just one Water Pulse.

252+ SpA Mega Launcher Mega Blastoise Water Pulse vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Aerodactyl: 348-410 (115.2 - 135.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 Atk Mega Aerodactyl Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Blastoise: 109-129 (30.1 - 35.6%) -- 27.9% chance to 3HKO
252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Aerodactyl Thunder Fang vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Blastoise: 166-196 (45.8 - 54.1%) -- 53.1% chance to 2HKO
lol that set so easily countered by ferro \o/ on a friendly note aura sphere>dragon pulse

Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Power Whip
- Curse
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball


0- Atk Mega Blastoise Rapid Spin vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Ferrothorn: 5-6 (1.4 - 1.7%) -- possibly the worst move ever
lol
252+ SpA Mega Launcher Mega Blastoise Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Ferrothorn: 68-81 (19.3 - 23%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Mega Launcher Mega Blastoise Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Ferrothorn: 130-153 (36.9 - 43.4%) -- 99.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Mega Launcher Mega Blastoise Water Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Ferrothorn: 72-86 (20.4 - 24.4%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery


on the bright side ;)
252 Atk Ferrothorn Power Whip vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Blastoise: 270-318 (74.5 - 87.8%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
lol that set so easily countered by ferro \o/ on a friendly note aura sphere>dragon pulse



Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Power Whip
- Curse
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball


0- Atk Mega Blastoise Rapid Spin vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Ferrothorn: 5-6 (1.4 - 1.7%) -- possibly the worst move ever
lol
252+ SpA Mega Launcher Mega Blastoise Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Ferrothorn: 68-81 (19.3 - 23%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Mega Launcher Mega Blastoise Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Ferrothorn: 130-153 (36.9 - 43.4%) -- 99.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Mega Launcher Mega Blastoise Water Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Ferrothorn: 72-86 (20.4 - 24.4%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery


on the bright side ;)
252 Atk Ferrothorn Power Whip vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Blastoise: 270-318 (74.5 - 87.8%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
everyone keeps using mega zard, people change, anyway

you prolly didnt see this coming but



Ampharos @ Ampharosite
Ability: Static
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
Modest Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast
- Agility

252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Solar Beam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Ampharos: 70-82 (18.2 - 21.3%) -- possible 5HKO
252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Ampharos: 140-165 (36.4 - 42.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Ampharos in Sun: 144-169 (37.5 - 44%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Air Slash vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Ampharos: 66-78 (17.1 - 20.3%) -- possible 5HKO

whereas

252+ SpA Mold Breaker Mega Ampharos Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard Y: 342-404 (114.7 - 135.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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All hail Lord Hippo:

-Hippowdon w/Leftovers
Nature: Careful
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Sp.Defense, 4 Attack
Moves: Earthquake, Slack Off, Ice Fang, Stone Edge


252+ SpA Mold Breaker Mega Ampharos Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hippowdon: 160-190 (38 - 45.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Mold Breaker Mega Ampharos Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hippowdon: 152-179 (36.1 - 42.6%) -- 94.8% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
4 Atk Hippowdon Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Ampharos: 230-272 (71.4 - 84.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after sandstorm damage
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Bisharp @Live Orb
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 32 HP/ 252 Atk / 224 Spe
Nature: Adamant
- Sucker Punch
- Knock Off
- Iron Head
- Sword Dance

252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Trevenant: 377-447 (100.8 - 119.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Life Orb burned Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Trevenant: 188-224 (50.2 - 59.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Not a counter.




Blastoise @ Blastoisinite
Trait: Mega Launcher
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 HP / 4 SpD
Nature: Modest
- Rapid Spin
- Water Pulse
- Dark Pulse
- Dragon Pulse

Knocks Aerodactyl down with just one Water Pulse.

252+ SpA Mega Launcher Mega Blastoise Water Pulse vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Aerodactyl: 348-410 (115.2 - 135.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 Atk Mega Aerodactyl Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Blastoise: 109-129 (30.1 - 35.6%) -- 27.9% chance to 3HKO
252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Aerodactyl Thunder Fang vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Blastoise: 166-196 (45.8 - 54.1%) -- 53.1% chance to 2HKO
The bolded explains why it isnt a counter. Need def evs. ;)

Anyway @ above post

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108 HP / 252 S.Atk / 148 Speed
Modest Nature
Trait: Regenerator
- Leaf Storm
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power Fire
- AncientPower

Dont need to say anything really. ;)
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Trait: Gooey
Modest Nature (+Sp.A -Atk)
252 HP / 4 Sp.D / 252 Sp.A
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast
-Sludge Wave
-Focus Blast

252+ SpA Choice Specs Tangrowth Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Goodra: 90-106 (23.4 - 27.6%) -- 75.5% chance to 4HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tangrowth Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Goodra: 72-86 (18.7 - 22.3%) -- possible 5HKO

Goodra laughs at anything Growth has to throw at it, and retaliates with Fire Blast, Sludge Wave, or Draco; all of which OHKO or 2HKO.
goodra is tough one, i thought mawile at first but thats not a counter just a lucky prediction since fblast kills me, no dragons since draco can kill me on switch in.

all i could possibly come up with was a special wall blissey which still doesn't make the job easier. That goodra move pool is just too versatile.




Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 Def / 252 HP / 252 SDef
Calm Nature
- Seismic Toss
- Soft-Boiled
- Toxic
- Protect

252+ SpA Goodra Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey: 121-144 (16.9 - 20.1%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Goodra Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey: 150-178 (21 - 24.9%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Goodra Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey: 56-67 (7.8 - 9.3%) -- possibly the worst move ever
252+ SpA Goodra Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey: 68-81 (9.5 - 11.3%) -- possibly the worst move ever

given that focus blast is prone to miss a lot, and i have toxic and soft boil i think she is a good choice.

Blissey Seismic Toss vs. 252 HP Goodra: 100-100 (26 - 26%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

man this one made me go through all the mons there is

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Aegislash @ Leftovers
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 252 HP/ 252 Atk/ 4 SDef
Nature: Adamant
- King's Shield
- Shadow Sneak
- Sacret Sword
- Swords Dance

Blissey can't do anything making it perfect setup bait. It gets easily 1HKOed with Sacret Sword.
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Talonflame @ choice band
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Brave Bird
- Roost
- Swords Dance


252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Shadow Sneak vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 106-126 (35.5 - 42.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Sacred Sword vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 79-94 (26.5 - 31.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

252 Atk Choice Band Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 302-356 (93.2 - 109.8%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

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-Carracosta w/White Herb
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 HP, 4 Defense
Moves: Shell Smash, Aqua Jet, Rock Slide, Earthquake

Now we have a dead Talonflame.
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now lets have some carracosta for lunch shall we?



Venusaur @ Venusaurite
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
Calm Nature
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Synthesis
- Leech Seed


252+ Atk Carracosta Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Venusaur: 27-32 (7.4 - 8.7%) -- possibly the worst move ever
252+ Atk Carracosta Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Venusaur: 100-118 (27.4 - 32.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252+ Atk Carracosta Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Venusaur: 89-105 (24.4 - 28.8%) -- 99.5% chance to 4HKO


4+ SpA Mega Venusaur Giga Drain vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Carracosta: 604-712 (208.2 - 245.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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Scizor @Scizorite
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 HP/ 252 Atk/ 4 SDef
Nature: Adamant
- Bullet Punch
- U-Turn
- Aerial Ace
- Swords Dance

Mega Scizor sets up and kills with Aerial Ace

4 SpA Mega Venusaur Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Scizor: 24-28 (6.9 - 8.1%) -- possibly the worst move ever

+2 252+ Atk Technician Mega Scizor Aerial Ace vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Venusaur: 400-472 (109.8 - 129.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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Arcanine @ leftovers
Ability : Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Nature:Bold
-Flamethrower
-Will'o'Wisp
-Morning Sun
-Roar

Arcanine Ohko's Scizor with flamethrower : 0 SpA Arcanine Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Scizor: 388-460 (112.7 - 133.7%)

+1 (Intimidated) 252+ Atk Technician Mega Scizor Aerial Ace : 26 - 30.7% + Bullet Punch 13 - 15.3% = 39 - 46 %

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-Gyarados w/Leftovers
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 156 HP, 72 Attack, 96 Defense, 180 Sp.Defense, 4 Speed
Moves: Waterfall, Dragon Dance, Bounce, Taunt


+1 72+ Atk burned Gyarados Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 174-205 (45 - 53.1%) -- 30.5% chance to 2HKO


252+ SpA Heatran Fire Blast vs. 156 HP / 180 SpD Gyarados: 83-98 (22.4 - 26.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery and burn damage
252+ SpA Heatran Flash Cannon vs. 156 HP / 180 SpD Gyarados: 60-72 (16.2 - 19.4%) -- guaranteed 5HKO after Leftovers recovery and burn damage




And that's assuming it gets burned on the switch. Otherwise, Gyarados can use Taunt so Heatran don't burn it (it outspeeds by like 9 points or something). I believe I win.
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Electivire @ Expert Belt
Adamant Nature
252 Atk 4 HP 252 Speed
Motor Drive

- Wild Charge
- Earthquake
- Cross Chop
- Ice Punch

Yeah... Electric type does its job here. Electivire's faster, too.
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