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Started by Jin Of The Gale September 21st, 2013 8:57 PM
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PlatinumDude

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Electivire @ Expert Belt
Adamant Nature
252 Atk 4 HP 252 Speed
Motor Drive

- Wild Charge
- Earthquake
- Cross Chop
- Ice Punch

Yeah... Electric type does its job here. Electivire's faster, too.
Not a counter. A +1 Speed Gyarados outspeeds this Electivire and 2HKOes/OHKOes it with Waterfall.

Anyway:
Chesnaught:

-Spiky Shield
-Leech Seed
-Seed Bomb
-Hammer Arm
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Bulletproof

Chesnaught isn't even 2HKOed by Expert Belt Ice Punch. It can wear down Electivire with Leech Seed + Spiky Shield. Hammer Arm 2HKOes, while Seed Bomb does the same thing after some prior damage.

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Not a counter. A +1 Speed Gyarados outspeeds this Electivire and 2HKOes/OHKOes it with Waterfall.

Anyway:
Chesnaught:

-Spiky Shield
-Leech Seed
-Seed Bomb
-Hammer Arm
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Bulletproof

Chesnaught isn't even 2HKOed by Expert Belt Ice Punch. It can wear down Electivire with Leech Seed + Spiky Shield. Hammer Arm 2HKOes, while Seed Bomb does the same thing after some prior damage.
Well, I have a counter for Chesnaught...

Chandelure @ Leftovers
Modest Nature
252 Sp Atk 4 HP 252 Speed

- Calm Mind
- Fire Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power Fighting

Seed Bomb has a slight chance to 4HKO, potentially a 6HKO... Not including Leftovers.
Hammer Arm has no effect.

Chandelure OHKOs with unboosted Fire Blast... But he can boost all day on Chesnaught.
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Sylveon @ Leftovers
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
Calm Nature
- Hyper Voice
- Wish
- Heal Bell
- Protect

252 SpA Choice Specs Hydreigon Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Sylveon: 57-68 (14.4 - 17.2%) -- possible 9HKO after Leftovers recovery
Hydreigon Draco Meteor vs. Sylveon: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- aim for the horn next time
252 SpA Choice Specs Hydreigon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Sylveon: 105-124 (26.6 - 31.4%) -- 23.8% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recover
252 SpA Choice Specs Hydreigon Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Sylveon: 154-182 (39 - 46.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

i can take any of your hit and survive with more than 50% health and ohko.

4 SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Voice vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Hydreigon: 600-708 (184.6 - 217.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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Metagross @Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
Evs: 252 HP/ 252 Atk/ 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Bullet Punch
- Earthquake
- Zen Headbutt


4 SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Metagross: 75-88 (20.6 - 24.1%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Metagross Meteor Mash vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 474-558 (120.3 - 141.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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-Milotic w/Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Attack
Moves: Scald, Ice Beam, Recover, Toxic

All of Metagross's attacks are 4HKOs at best, and Milotic can alternate between Scald and Recover to beat it.
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Magnezone @ choice specs
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Flash Cannon
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- volt switch




4 SpA Milotic Scald vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Magnezone: 94-112 (27.3 - 32.5%) -- 72.6% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
4 SpA Milotic Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Magnezone: 35-42 (10.1 - 12.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever

252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Milotic: 402-474 (102 - 120.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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Seismitoad @Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP/ 252 SAtk/ 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earth Power
- Scald
- Grass Knot


252+ SpA Magnezone Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Seismitoad: 90-107 (21.7 - 25.8%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Magnezone Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Seismitoad: 45-54 (10.8 - 13%) -- possibly the worst move ever

252+ SpA Seismitoad Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Magnezone: 528-624 (153.4 - 181.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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Togekiss @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Air Slash
- Thunder Wave
- Dazzling Gleam
- Nasty Plot


252 Atk Life Orb Technician Breloom Mach Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 32-39 (8.5 - 10.4%) -- possibly the worst move ever
252 Atk Life Orb Technician Breloom Bullet Seed (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 126-147 (33.6 - 39.3%) -- approx. 5% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery


4 SpA Togekiss Air Slash vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Breloom: 576-676 (219.8 - 258%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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Steelix @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake
- Dragon Tail
- Stone Edge

252+ SpA Togekiss Air Slash vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Steelix: 90-106 (25.4 - 29.9%) -- 0.1% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Togekiss Dazzling Gleam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Steelix: 96-113 (27.1 - 31.9%) -- 36.2% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Steelix Gyro Ball (84 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 236-282 (63.1 - 75.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
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128 HP / 252 S.Atk / 128 Speed
Modest Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power Fire
- Shadow Ball

Walls the whole set and massacres back with Leaf Storm/HP Fire. Shadow Ball would be Trick, but lol for this its pointless.
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-Rotom Heat w/Leftovers
Nature: Calm
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Sp.Defense, 4 Sp.Attack
Moves: Overheat, Thunderbolt, Will-o-Wisp, Hidden Power Ground

Resists Leaf Storm, Thunderbolt, and HP Fire. Shadow ball isn't good either:
252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-C Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Rotom-H: 85-101 (27.9 - 33.2%) -- 84.3% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

Then incinerates with Overheat.
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Gastrodon @ Leftovers
Ability: Storm Drain
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 SDef
Calm Nature
- Scald
- Earth Power
- Recover
- Infestation


4 SpA Rotom-H Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Gastrodon: 66-78 (15.4 - 18.3%) -- possible 8HKO after Leftovers recovery
Rotom-H Thunderbolt vs. Gastrodon: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- aim for the horn next time
4 SpA Rotom-H Hidden Power Ground vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Gastrodon: 41-49 (9.6 - 11.5%) -- possibly the worst move ever


4 SpA Gastrodon Scald vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Rotom-H: 114-134 (37.5 - 44%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

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Sceptile @ Life Orb
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Timid Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Giga Drain
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power Rock


4 SpA Gastrodon Scald vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Sceptile: 46-55 (16.3 - 19.5%) -- possible 6HKO
4 SpA Gastrodon Earth Power vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Sceptile: 52-62 (18.4 - 21.9%) -- possible 5HKO

252 SpA Life Orb Sceptile Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Gastrodon: 780-920 (183 - 215.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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Heracross @ Heracronite252 Atk 4 Sp. Def 252 HP


-Pin Missile
-Close Combat
-Rock Blast
-Bullet Seed


252 SpA Life Orb Sceptile Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Heracross: 113-134 (31 - 36.8%) -- 72.8% chance to 3HKO (Not factoring Sp. Attack Drops)



252 SpA Life Orb Sceptile Hidden Power Rock vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Heracross: 71-84 (19.5 - 23%) -- possible 5HKO


252 SpA Life Orb Sceptile Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Heracross: 70-83 (19.2 - 22.8%) -- possible 5HKO



252 SpA Life Orb Sceptile Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Heracross: 66-78 (18.1 - 21.4%) -- possible 5HKO




252+ Atk Mega Heracross Pin Missile (5 hits) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Sceptile: 840-1000 (297.8 - 354.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO


'Nuff said.
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Aegislash w/Leftovers
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Attack, 4 Sp.Defense
Moves: Swords Dance, Iron Head, Shadow Sneak, King's Shield

252+ Atk Mega Heracross Rock Blast (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 70-85 (21.6 - 26.2%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Mega Heracross Bullet Seed (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 70-85 (21.6 - 26.2%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Mega Heracross Pin Missile (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 50-60 (15.4 - 18.5%) -- possible 8HKO after Leftovers recovery

And since those attacks don't do much, it has time for 2 Swords Dances and then can:
+4 252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Heracross: 424-499 (116.4 - 137%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP
Trait: Defiant
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Iron Head
- Sucker Punch
- Swords Dance

Resists everything and defiant makes Kings Shield useless. It can then Swords Dance or Knock Off all the items!
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252 HP / 252 Atk
Ability: Iron Fist
Adamant Nature
-Mach Punch
-Drain Punch
-Knock Off
-Poison Jab/Ice Punch.

Conkeldurr can tank any hits from bisharp, then Mach Punch can OHKO with Priority. Knock off slams psychic switch ins. poison jab ( i think conk can learn it) slams fairy switches, Ice punch slams flying switches.

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-Gyarados w/Leftovers
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 156 HP, 72 Attack, 96 Defense, 180 Sp.Defense, 4 Speed
Moves: Waterfall, Bounce, Dragon Dance, Taunt

lols at Mach and Drain Punch, and Knock Off/Ice Punch/Poison Jab aren't terribly damaging either:

-1 252+ Atk Iron Fist Conkeldurr Ice Punch vs. 156 HP / 96 Def Gyarados: 83-98 (22.4 - 26.4%) -- 21.5% chance to 4HKO
-1 252+ Atk Conkeldurr Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 156 HP / 96 Def Gyarados: 89-105 (24 - 28.3%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
-1 252+ Atk Conkeldurr Poison Jab vs. 156 HP / 96 Def Gyarados: 73-87 (19.7 - 23.5%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery

Then happily Bounces on Conk's head until it suffers severe brain damage.
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Manectric @ Manectite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 128 SpA / 252 Spe / 128 Def
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Overheat
- HP Ice

Mega Manectric's Intimidate will lower the Gyarados's attack so Bounce and Waterfall will do nothing. (if Manectric did not switch in) Use a Thunderbolt and Gyarados is dead.

Mega Manectric attacks Gyarados:
128 SpA Mega Manectric Thunderbolt vs. 156 HP / 180 SpD Gyarados: 468-552 (126.4 - 149.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Gyarados attacks with Waterfall to the Manectric that just switched in:
72+ Atk Gyarados Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 128 Def Manectric: 153-181 (54.4 - 64.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (It survives!)

Intimidated Gyarados attacks with Waterfall to the Mega Manectric:
-2 72+ Atk Gyarados Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Manectric: 75-88 (26.6 - 31.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
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Swampert @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Waterfall
- Stealth Rock
- Ice Punch

128 SpA Mega Manectric Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Swampert: 68-80 (16.8 - 19.8%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery
128 SpA Mega Manectric Overheat vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Swampert: 73-86 (18 - 21.2%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Swampert Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 128 Def Mega Manectric: 330-390 (117.4 - 138.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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Venusaur @ Venusaurite
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP, 252 SpA, 4 Def
Bold Nature
-Leech Seed
-Sludge Bomb
-Giga Drain
-Synthesis

Swampert can't touch Mega Venusaur and Mega Venusaur can heal all of its HP back with Giga Drain.
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-Mega Scizor w/Scizorite
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Technician
EVs; 252 HP, 252 attack, 4 Sp.Defense
Moves: Bullet Punch, Bug Bite, Roost, Swords Dance
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