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Old October 17th, 2013 (2:16 AM). Edited October 17th, 2013 by Hiatus.
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In all of Pokémon games, X and Y had the most amount of rivals. The rivals were Calem, Serena, Shauna, Tierno, Trevor, and Diantha. Calem and Serena are your main rivals. They live right next door to you, and battle you countless amount of times throughout your journey—helping you to train your Pokémon quite a bit. Just like the rivals from previous games, their dream was to, one day, become the most powerful Pokémon trainer of all. Diantha is an actress and has done a lot of movies, so she's very well-known. You run into her dozens of times in your journey, and since she's also a Pokémon trainer, she battles you every once in a while to have your skills tested. Trevor, Tierno, and Shauna all live in Vaniville Town. Shauna is a very sweet little girl, and helps you out a variety of times when traveling across the Kalos region. Tierno may seem a little intimidating to some you, but once you get to know him, he actually isn't that scary. Tierno is a very light-hearted individual, and is always caring. Trevor's got a brilliant mind, and has the ability to get through almost any issues that he faces. He gives you a PokéDex at the beginning of the game.

Out of all these rival characters, who is (or are) your favorite? Are there any reasons why you like them? If so, what are they? Also, which rival did you have the hardest time defeating? Why was he or she so hard?
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Old October 17th, 2013 (2:21 AM).
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Having all of these rivals was definitely one of the highlights of the game for me. Usually we get one rival who we battle a few times and he or she offers very little of a challenge throughout. That was not the case with this generation as each rival presented a challenge with different and very diverse teams that always made you give it your all. As for my favorite, I will have to say Tierno. He just seems so lighthearted and fun to be around. Overall he seems like a big sweetheart so I definitely find him to be the coolest. Serena was definitely the toughest though because I started with Chespin and she would use both Meowstic and Delphox in the battles which made a very tough time for my Chesnaught.
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Old October 17th, 2013 (2:27 AM).
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I really like Serena.
We did 1-2 or 3 tag battles, and we even battled for the Mega Ring, as well as a lot more.
Hmm. Shauna is a fun little sister-like to me whom I find very adorable!
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"Rivals" To me the WHOLE point of having a Rival is to hate him like in RB. Your Rival is an Ass and goes out of his way to say mean things to you. You want to beat him. He was a better antagonist than Team Rocket.

Your Rival in GSC begins his journey as a Criminal. He is mean, but not in the same way.

The problem with modern day "rivals" is that they are your friends. There is no motivation to fight, or to win, because there is nothing at stake. It is a friendly battle between Friends. Although nothing is at stake, they REFUSE to let you progress until you win, then Lament how they always loose.

I would like a rival who is a JERK. He joins the evil team as nasty people are likely to do. At the climax, your rival could have a change of heart and be the inside man that brings down the whole operation. (with your help of course!)

Then the two of you can still compete and it would still feel exciting because of that change you went through together.
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Your'e on to something here...interesting. Very interesting.
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hmm.. seems legit. just like how lucas is revolver ocelot from metal gear
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Old October 17th, 2013 (6:10 PM).
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I think they just want to add a big kid lol
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Old October 17th, 2013 (6:23 PM).
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Android 18 is Krillin's wife. Android 19 is the fat white one.
Wait a minute...I thought Kim-Jung-IL was Android 19. If Tierno is Android 19 and Kim-Jung-IL is 19 then Kim-Jung-IL transported himself into Pokemon X and Y to capture Pokemon since he can't create WMD's.
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Old October 17th, 2013 (6:33 PM).
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Android 18 is Krillin's wife. Android 19 is the fat white one.
Wait a minute...I thought Kim-Jung-IL was Android 19. If Tierno is Android 19 and Kim-Jung-IL is 19 then Kim-Jung-IL transported himself into Pokemon X and Y to capture Pokemon since he can't create WMD's.
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The two threads about rivals were similar in discussion and thus merged. :)
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Old October 17th, 2013 (6:45 PM).
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The two threads about rivals were similar in discussion and thus merged. :)
Does that have something to do with FUUUUUSION-HA!!

Or the Gene Splicer? lol

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My opinions regarding the rivals

Tierno: I dunno, just meh

Shauna: One word, Adorable.

Trevor: Kinda sucks that his own style of "battling" is comparing your Pokedex to him

Calem: Now that's what a rival is supposed to be, always there and makes sure you get stronger by the minute and is always determined to be better than you.
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Did anyone notice any other obscure DBZ references while playing through???
I remember seeing this out of the corner of my eye, I did a double take and I was like 'did I just see...'
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Old October 17th, 2013 (7:26 PM).
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Gary, Silver and May where all the best. Long live!
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Silver was the best Rival. Green/Blue/Gary was friendly'ish and I agree with what SnowpointQuincy said. The whole point of having a rival is that you wanna f*** em' up!
Out of all the rivals, I think Paul would have been the best if he had anything to do with the games. In the anime, he was the most nasty rival there was.
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Old October 18th, 2013 (7:17 AM).
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I think Paul would have been the best if he had anything to do with the games. In the anime, he was the most nasty rival there was.

Paul was only in the anime, but some believe he IS a reflection of the Video Game Players. Paul catches pokemon in large numbers then immediately releases them for not having the right nature, level, etc. The way some game players act when building competitive teams.
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Old October 18th, 2013 (8:21 AM).
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the rivals were great acting like a friend at all
and having about 4 of them at the same time
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miss some a rival who is actually a jerk LOL
I hope gamefreak would add at least 1 out of 4 rival who is completely a jerk or at least will give a lot of challenge. Like for example you will face each other at the Pokemon League or something
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Old October 18th, 2013 (9:29 AM).
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Did anyone notice any other obscure DBZ references while playing through???
Not really obscure. That's a pretty popular meme. I think most people are oblivious to we're it came from though. I didn't know it was dbz
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The definition of a rival is "a person or thing competing with another for the same objective or for superiority in the same field of activity", not "a person or thing competing with another for the same objective or superiority in the same field of activity who acts like a jerk and goes out of their way to insult others". Therefore, a rival does not have to be a bully to be a "real rival".

According to this definition, Blue, Silver, May/Brendan, Wally, Barry, Cheren and Calem/Serena are all rivals. All of them battle the player just to prove they are stronger and strive to become better than them. Some of them are obnoxious and some of them act friendlier, but all of them compete with you.

Bianca, Hugh, Shauna, Trevor and Tierno are all friends. They follow the player around and battle them not to compete but because they just want you. It's a friendly match with nothing at stake, and that's why I don't like any of them as much as I like the real rivals.

I'm not too big of a fan of the jerky rivals myself, but these friends are rather frustrating. Hugh especially, because you'll have the deal with him the entire game. There's no rivalry between you and Hugh, and you hardly battle him. I believe there are only four encounters with him that include you two battling! Weeeeeeak.

About the X and Y rivals... Eh, they're okay. I find it pretty obnoxious how they just tag along everywhere and randomly start battles with you. They're all cruddy at battling, including Calem/Serena who I despise the most. I'll talk about them later though. Shauna is actually the most useful. I'm surprised I'm saying this but... I kind of like her! I actually expected to hate her the most out of the four rivals, since she's just so girly and everything. I like her optimistic personality and how she's actually helpful. So what if she wears pink and bows? Girls wear pink and bows. Not all girls do, but some do. Trevor's... okay. He doesn't show up much. Neither does Tierno. They don't get enough screen time. I also hate how in the end they get credit when they literally did nothing.

Calem/Serena are my least favorite because they irritate me a lot. They're basically May/Brendan all over again. Except Calem/Serena are determined to beat you even if they suck at battling. They force you to battle them in front of almost every freakin' gym in the region, they always want you want, they think they're fantastic Trainers when they're not, they're terrible friends that don't stick to your side, they think they're the hero and the game won't let you forget that they exist. Most of the screen time they get should be for developing for Trevor and Tierno, but nope. And the toy piano theme that plays when they get all emotional is just NO. I don't CARE about them! I don't CARE AT ALL. I want more Tierno and Trevor and I want it now.
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Trevor's... okay. He doesn't show up much. Neither does Tierno. They don't get enough screen time. I also hate how in the end they get credit when they literally did nothing.
I KNOW RIGHT? What was even the point of them being in the game? All Tierno does is talk about dancing and Trevor moans about not being able to complete the PokeDex because he's asked to investigate Mega Evolutions.

Then they get a "YOU DID GREAT!" when Tierno pretty much said that he's awful at battling (yet soon challenges you afterwards!). I bet they hindered more than they helped. Probably 'accidentally' let Team Plasma destroy a few more buildings.

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Calem/Serena are my least favorite because they irritate me a lot. They're basically May/Brendan all over again. Except Calem/Serena are determined to beat you even if they suck at battling. They force you to battle them in front of almost every freakin' gym in the region, they always want you want, they think they're fantastic Trainers when they're not, they're terrible friends that don't stick to your side, they think they're the hero and the game won't let you forget that they exist.
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Tierno was pointless, Trevor was incredibly annoying in the way he would basically repeat whatever he said...In other words repeating one's self is pretty irritating.

Calem/Serena was just a standard rival maybe a little more relationship development with your character than in the past, which I liked, and Shauna was pretty cute and for a male player characters she could have easily developed into a light romance haha.
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Good grief I hated them all. Well my main rival was still ok, but I preferred it when they were boasting of self confidence like in r/b/y or g/s/c.
The most annoying is the little girl I felt stalked by her lol.

Also the guy that wants to complete the pokedex, I also hoped he would be more like blue from the first gen. Seriously i havent got many pokemon caught and I still beat him everytime.
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Calem/Serena (assuming they both are exactly the same. I had Calem) were incredibly bland, Shauna was a stalker, Trevor, as another person said, repeated the same dialogue over and over which was quite irritating, and Tierno was unbelievably stupid for not having a freaking Ludicolo on his team. And, he was pointless. Quality over quantity, GameFreak!
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Old November 6th, 2013 (1:09 AM). Edited November 6th, 2013 by She_Delphox.
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I lolled so hard when I first started my game (when I bought it on release date) and saw Tierno's face when you're getting ready to pick your Pokemon xD They are quite pointless indeed, Trevor wasn't that annoying to me, but kinda bugs me he always kept moaning about his Pokedex. The dance-thing about Tierno kinda irritated me xD and like it was said earlier, surprises me too he didn't even had a Ludicolo on his team (he also reminded me of the Disco Freak Guy, can't remember his name, on Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness who always was dancing and had a whole Pokemon Team consisting of 4 Ludicolos xD). I kept thinking, if you want to keep dancing, why not join the Kimono Dance Theater xD (wait, too fat to fit in a Kimono anyway, so then bug the players in the Kalos Region).

Calem (since I play as a girl) always found a way to show up at the most "no-time-for-rival-battle-even-though-I-always-win" moments in the game that bugs me… My friend was on his way to the Pokemon League, and on that spot in Victory Road he kept losing to Serena 'cause she HAD to battle there >.> Also very frustrating to have healed your team for a gym, going in with a lot of expectations to win, prepare some tactics, NOPE! rival battle spam first xD Aaaand back again to the Pokemon Center it is >_<
Shauna was also kinda annoying for constantly whining about how we grew as a "friend group" and how we somehow managed to have greater bonds blahblah xD And she didn't even believe me when I said I beat Team Flare myself in Lumiose City >.>

And I had a "whaargh!" moment when I FINALLY could go to route 14 to catch a Goomy to complete my team, but NOOOOO we HAD to go to the "erhem Spooky House" first >_> just some homeless guy begging for a tip... 'cause "my dear friends" had to check it out (nope, not Calem, he is too busy catching and training his Pokemon, like I don't want to spend time on that rather than checking out some homeless guy in an old shack xD)

Then last but not least, the most "wtf are you guys doing here moment" was when I beat the League and, yes why the hell not, they too showed up on the stage with me. I was like "wtf you guys, you didn't do anything! >.>" face… (they are just leeching our awesomeness/efforts away from us :x) so why get the credit for it.
Calem/Serena also gets a Masterball (''erhem great help..) when defeating Team Flare at the Pokeball Factory, when later in the game they carelessly leave you behind with like.. wait.. what? 4 members of Team Flare to defeat in like, one time?! >.> what great friends you are… Great job..
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Um, I've only met Diantha like twice or something and I've never battled her during the storyline.
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