Dual types you consider blasphemy in Pokemon Page 2

Started by WingedDragon October 22nd, 2013 5:02 PM
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I don't think any type combination would bother me, if they had a good origin story/ description for it. Say there's a water/fire type, it could be some sort of hot spring Pokemon- loves the heat and the water.
So yeah, no dual typing bugs me at all. I wouldn't like a Pokemon with no weaknesses (like Sableye) that was really powerful. I think that would be a bit OP and unbalanced. Spiritomb is enough of an annoyance.
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Barring the Normal type, here are some that make me go crazy:

Nonsense combinations: Fire·Ice, Electric·Grass, Electric·Ground, Electric·Rock, Fighting·Ghost, Fighting·Fairy, Poison·Psychic, Poison·Fairy, Dragon·Fairy, Dark·Fairy

The above type pairs I can't easily imagine so if anyone has any ideas for one of the above, let me know ;)

Weak combinations: Fire·Ice, Fire·Rock, Grass·Ice, Grass·Ground, Grass·Psychic, Grass·Bug, Grass·Rock, Grass·Dark, Grass·Fairy, Ice·Poison, Ice·Flying, Ice·Psychic, Ice·Bug, Ice·Rock, Ice·Fairy, Ground·Psychic, Flying·Bug, Bug·Rock

Basically those that have many weaknesses (such as Grass·Ice/Psychic/Bug) or few resistances (such as Rock·Grass/Bug) are listed above... perhaps I listed too many there?

Also, @Batty: Ghost·Dark is weak to Fairy attacks and doesn't have many useful resistances..

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Bug/Flying or Dragon/Flying
The Flying type is really unnecessary there and only ends up giving a 4x weakness to Rock and Ice respectively.
Gameplay-wise, yeah. They have lots of flaws. But design-wise, I think it makes sense with the real life flying insects here and there like butterfly, bees, and moth. Also, flying dragons also makes sense, no?

But yeah... the resistance sucks. At least it gave them immunities to Ground. :v

Speaking of which, I don't like Amaura & Aurorus family's type combo as well. >_> Amaura has too many weaknesses and two double weakness at once.
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I think any typing with an abominable amount of weaknesses, regardless of how many resistances it has, makes it difficult to play. As has been mentioned before I love the Amaura and Tyrunt lines but their huge number of weaknesses makes them difficult to play effectively. They're lethal if they get a chance to strike but if the opponent has at least decent type coverage they should have a move that hits it hard. I would rather a Pokémon with few weaknesses and few resistances over one with large number of resistances but a large number of weaknesses.

Which is why Ice and Rock types are difficult for me to play (despite loving the former) but Ghost and Normal types really shine. As was mentioned above I would love a Ghost/Normal type Pokémon in the game.

I wouldn't like a Pokemon with no weaknesses (like Sableye) that was really powerful. I think that would be a bit OP and unbalanced. Spiritomb is enough of an annoyance.
Both of them now have a weakness to Fairy types in Generation 6. While I quite liked the idea of a Pokémon with no weaknesses they no longer hold that title.

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I despise the steel/fighting type because a fighting type weak to fighting just isnt right at all. And even i gotta say that a dragon/fairy type would be very weird.
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I wonder how they could make a Fire/Water type. Dragon/Fighting seems comical. Also, Dragon/Normal.
Maybe some kind of Steam Pokémon could be dual type Fire-Water? I think a steam pokémon would be pretty cool, but I don't know how that kind of dual-typing would affect the game. I think some kind of steam-powered/steampunk Pokémon would be great, Fire-Water should never EVER be dual typed.
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Fire/Water, Normal/Ghost, Grass/Fire, Dragon/Fairy, Electric/Ground
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I'm working on a hack, and one of my main goals is to explore as many type combinations as possible.

The Fairy type adds a lot of options.


And- whilst true that a lot of the unused types combos are unused because they'd either have a huge number of weaknesses, a bunch of double weaknesses, or just don't make much sense- that challenge is exactly what makes it fun for me.

A couple that I've already started work on. Designs close to final, and starting figuring out movesets, stats, etc.

Starters:

Fire/Flying - Based on a Pegasus and Apollo
Grass/Rock - Mountain Gorilla
Water/Fighting - Narwhal

The new types are gained only at the third stage, and change the dynamics. If I ever get this game done, I think it would make the rival battles more interesting. Would certainly be a surprise the first time you encounter the third stage.

Legendary Trio:

Fire/Water -Geyser
Water/Grass - Kraken/Kelp
Grass/Fire - Forest Fire

None of them have the one-up on the others, and each only have three weaknesses.

Making use of the new Fairy type:

Rock/Fairy -Inuksuk The Inuit built them for navigation. Some lore marks them as spirit guides.
Grass/Fairy - Dryad
Ice/Fairy - Jynx evolution with drastic design change. I've always liked Jynx's concept and unique type combo- but could never use her without feeling like a horrible, horrible racist.

Random Others:

Ground
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- Warthog
Electric/Dark - Thunder Serpent in Native American lore. Interpretations vary, the more commonly known being the Thunder Bird.
Ice/Fire - Chinook. Powerful, warm winds that can give you a random week of summer in the dead of winter.
Normal/Ghost - Ghost bear. I am drawing a lot of my ideas from Native American mythology.
Fire/Poison - Napalm. Chemical Warfare.
Ground/Psychic - Babylonian Sphynx (Male only)
Ground/Dark - Greek Sphynx (Female only)

Anyways, I only brought this up because I saw a couple of those exact combinations being mentioned in this thread, so I was just demonstrating that they are- indeed- workable. Just need to be creative.

If I get a scanner, I could even post sketches if people are curious.

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Aggron is my favorite Pokemon, but I don't really see where the Rock type comes in. It gives this beastly monster two 4x weaknesses to very strong types. It kinda sucks, but at least Mega Aggron doesn't have Rock type.
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Some Pokémon have unnecessarily given/not given a dual type methinks. I feel that Feraligatr could have been better with a Dark type (I'm not talking competitively, just realistically) because of the Bite and Crunch and overall bad the looks are because of the Alligator thing Feraligatr's been running.

However, I see no reason why Gyarados was given the Flying type and we all have experienced the crippling state he has to face against Electric types. I feel he would be overall better as pure Water, or maybe Dragon if it comes to that. Not a bad option either, Outrage is a physical Dragon type move enough for Gyarados.

Gorebyss and Huntail could respectively have adopted a Psychic and Dark typing, they seem like more than viable candidates even though they may accumulate more weaknesses. This is because of their abundance of moves of said types and their general looks and backgrounds.
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However, I see no reason why Gyarados was given the Flying type and we all have experienced the crippling state he has to face against Electric types. I feel he would be overall better as pure Water, or maybe Dragon if it comes to that. Not a bad option either, Outrage is a physical Dragon type move enough for Gyarados.
From what I hear, Gyarados wasn't made Water/Dragon because it would have made him insanely overpowered back in Gen 1. I suppose the Flying type was assigned as both a way to nerf him as well as having some semblance of similarity to Dragon by pure aesthetics (wind/storm/cyclones are often associated with deities/mythical creatures in ancient cultures).

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I think the flying part is just there to have an immunity to ground type moves, especially earthquake

Dialga was one of my top fav legendaries, then I found out that its a "Water-Dragon". Dont get me wrong I love water types and all but for some reason water-dragon just didnt click for me. To me its a no no:-/... On the other hand I hate the thought of fire-water, dark-fairy and please for the love of Arceas NO fighting-fairy!!! Its like picturing a buff Tinkerbell>:-(
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I'm surprised that Dark/Fairy is a difficult combo - aren't loads of fairies in folklore generally mischievous little things? Some of them are just downright evil, evil pixie Pokémon thing wouldn't be a difficult concept, for me at least.

Personally, I don't really see many type combos that don't make sense, considering the versatility of the types' meanings. I think... maybe... nope! There's not a single type combo I can think of that seems entirely outlandish. I mean, it's Pokémon logic, here, pretty much anything is reasonable.
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Personally, I don't really see many type combos that don't make sense, considering the versatility of the types' meanings. I think... maybe... nope! There's not a single type combo I can think of that seems entirely outlandish. I mean, it's Pokémon logic, here, pretty much anything is reasonable.
Well, I think Bug/Ice would certainly be fake, because no bugs have ever lived in the Arctic. Rock/Psychic is also a strange typing, but that is apparantly a combo introduced a long time ago. Fighting/Fairy is also fake, because you're mixing two personalities into one Pokemon. Charm Punch? I think that's too ridiculous.
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