RMT My 5th gen Ou team

Started by shayellis November 26th, 2013 5:03 AM
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Posted November 26th, 2013
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How can i improve this team?

Metagross @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Zen Headbutt
- Bullet Punch
- Ice Punch
- Stealth Rock

Garchomp @ Haban Berry
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 252 HP / 196 Def / 60 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Roar
- Earthquake
- Dragon Tail
- Stealth Rock

Gengar @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Destiny Bond
- Will-O-Wisp

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Bold Nature
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic
- Heal Bell
- Wish

Blastoise @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 100 SDef / 56 SAtk / 100 Def
Calm Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Ice Beam
- Scald
- Hidden Power [Grass]

Infernape @ Expert Belt
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 180 Atk / 76 SAtk / 252 Spd
Hasty Nature
- Close Combat
- Mach Punch
- ThunderPunch
- Overheat

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Garchomp's not really one for Leftovers. You'd wanna give it a Yache Berry, Haban berry, or Focus Sash instead.

Your Ferrothorn is absolute Taunt bait. Swap Toxic with Gyro Ball or Power Whip.

Your Infernape has the EVs for its mixed attacking set, but the moves for its anti-lead set. If you wanna keep it as an anti-lead, the EVs should be: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Sp.Attack. Also give it a Sash instead.

If you want it to be a mixed attacker, keep the current EVs, but give it a moveset with: Overheat/Fire Blast, Close Combat, Thunder Punch, Hidden Power Ice/Mach Punch/U-turn.

Vaporeon's meant to wall/tank stuff. It's slow. And Wish works far better if you use Protect. So it should be like:

Vaporeon w/Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Attack
Moves: Wish, Protect, Heal Bell, Scald
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To add on, Ferrothorn is too slow for SubSeed:
-Spikes/Stealth Rock
-Leech Seed/Stealth Rock
-Power Whip/Protect
-Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/48 Def/208 SDef
Item: Leftovers

Psychic doesn't see much use on Gengar because it already hits Fighting/Poison Pokemon hard enough with Shadow Ball:
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
-Substitute
-Disable/Will-o-Wisp/Pain Split
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Black Sludge/Life Orb

or
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
-Taunt/Hidden Power (Ice/Fire)
-Destiny Bond
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Focus Sash/Expert Belt

Infernape sets should look like this. Infernape is also too frail for Roar, due to the move's negative priority:
-Flare Blitz
-Close Combat
-U-turn
-Mach Punch/ThunderPunch
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Band

or
-Fire Blast/Overheat
-Close Combat
-ThunderPunch
-U-turn/Hidden Power (Ice)/Mach Punch
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 180 Atk/76 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Expert Belt

or
-Fake Out
-Stealth Rock
-Overheat
-Close Combat
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Focus Sash

or
-Fire Blast/Flare Blitz
-Close Combat
-U-turn
-Hidden Power (Ice)/Stone Edge
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 36 Atk/220 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

Roar seems tempting to phaze out opposing Calm Minders, but Raikou is better off simply attacking:
-Calm Mind
-Thunderbolt
-Hidden Power (Ice)
-Aura Sphere/Substitute
Nature: Rash/Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers

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Thanks for the help guys. and ive used some of your feedback and changed my team to this

Metagross @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Zen Headbutt
- Bullet Punch
- Ice Punch
- Stealth Rock

Garchomp @ Haban Berry
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 252 HP / 196 Def / 60 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Roar
- Earthquake
- Dragon Tail
- Stealth Rock

Gengar @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Destiny Bond
- Will-O-Wisp

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Bold Nature
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic
- Heal Bell
- Wish

Blastoise @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 100 SDef / 56 SAtk / 100 Def
Calm Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Ice Beam
- Scald
- Hidden Power [Grass]

Infernape @ Expert Belt
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 180 Atk / 76 SAtk / 252 Spd
Hasty Nature
- Close Combat
- Mach Punch
- ThunderPunch
- Overheat

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lol, I forgot Garchomp has a "support" set. Things is, you don't need Roar and Dragon Tail on the same set for Garchomp. Either change Dragon Tail to Dragon Claw, or change Roar to Fire Fang/Aqua Tail/Protect.

Also, Metagross can't use Ice Punch until PokeBank is released. You'll have to put something else in that slot for the time being.
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Thanks for the help guys. and ive used some of your feedback and changed my team to this

Metagross @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Zen Headbutt
- Bullet Punch
- Ice Punch
- Stealth Rock

Garchomp @ Haban Berry
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 252 HP / 196 Def / 60 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Roar
- Earthquake
- Dragon Tail
- Stealth Rock

Gengar @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Destiny Bond
- Will-O-Wisp

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Bold Nature
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic
- Heal Bell
- Wish

Blastoise @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 100 SDef / 56 SAtk / 100 Def
Calm Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Ice Beam
- Scald
- Hidden Power [Grass]

Infernape @ Expert Belt
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 180 Atk / 76 SAtk / 252 Spd
Hasty Nature
- Close Combat
- Mach Punch
- ThunderPunch
- Overheat
Stealth Rock is better off with a bulky spread for Metagross:
-Stealth Rock
-Meteor Mash
-Pursuit
-Earthquake/Hammer Arm
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 HP/96 Atk/160 SDef
Item: Leftovers

Support Garchomp should look like this. Having Roar and Dragon Tail is redundant, unless Garchomp is using RestTalk, and it's not ideal to do that:
-Stealth Rock
-Dragon Claw/Dragon Tail
-Earthquake
-Aqua Tail/Fire Blast/Protect
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 HP/196 Def/60 Spe
Item: Leftovers

If you want to use Destiny Bond on Gengar, use Taunt or Hidden Power Ice/Fire instead of Will-o-Wisp. Will-o-Wisp is best used with Substitute.

Support Blissey should look like this. Choose between Wish + Protect or a full-on cleric set:
-Wish/Softboiled
-Protect/Aromatherapy/Heal Bell
-Seismic Toss/Flamethrower
-Toxic
Nature: Calm
EVs: 4 HP/252 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure

In Gen V, Blastoise is outclassed as a Rapid Spinner. Make do with Starmie:
-Hydro Pump/Surf
-Thunderbolt/Psyshock
-Ice Beam
-Rapid Spin
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure

or
-Scald
-Rapid Spin
-Psyshock/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
-Recover
Nature: Timid
EVs: 248 HP/32 Def/4 SAtk/224 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure

lol, I forgot Garchomp has a "support" set. Things is, you don't need Roar and Dragon Tail on the same set for Garchomp. Either change Dragon Tail to Dragon Claw, or change Roar to Fire Fang/Poison Jab.

Also, Metagross can't use Ice Punch until PokeBank is released. You'll have to put something else in that slot for the time being.
The OP specifically said that this team is for Gen V, so Ice Punch is safe.

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The OP specifically said that this team is for Gen V, so Ice Punch is safe.
Forgot this was for a Gen 5 team...so used to answering stuff about Gen 6.
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