Pokémon Gaming Central For topics that aren't necessarily restricted to one game, Pokémon Gaming Central ranges from comparing and contrasting the differences in the gaming generations to discussing the gaming franchise as a whole.
Sort Threads: Spinoff Central | Pokkén

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1    
Old December 1st, 2013 (5:19 AM).
Kai Hirogame Kai Hirogame is offline
The Mechanic
     
    Join Date: Nov 2013
    Location: The country next to Kalos...
    Gender: Male
    Nature: Modest
    Posts: 37
    So I wanted to reach out to people who are trying the same thing as me (getting the perfect, battle dominating, master of destruction of a Pokémon) and who are having exactly the same problem as me:

    The Pokémon who you're breeding "troll" the ever loving coconuts out of you.

    I've been trying to breed a Noibat to get the perfect HP/Def/Sp.Att/Sp.Def/Spd Noivern to add to my team but for some Arceus forsaken reason all the hatchlings say "NOPE, you're not getting that one".

    "Defense and Speed? You can have that. Special Attack and Speed? Sure, why not. Sp. Att, Def and Spd? Of course! No problem. Sp. Att, Sp. Def, Def, Spd? Yeah, no... You'll never get that... Though here's a totally useless Sp. Def only one. What's that? You want to add HP in there as well? Well... Okay I guess... Here's a HP and Sp. Def one, so... Good luck trying to add that to the Sp. Att, Def, Spd ones you're swimming in."

    After about, I don't know... 25, 30, even more batches of Noibat, this is getting rather frustrating... Especially since breeding Larvitar for my friend was done in 2 batches. A 5 IV Larvitar in 2 batches and the An-Noibat is going "Ah, ah, ah, you didn't say the magic word"! (I admit I have begged and said 'please', so either they're deaf or I'm losing my mind...)

    Another reason why a Ditto Friend Safari will help me out a lot... Shame they're so damn rare. And I haven't even gotten to the worst of my new team yet: Chansey. T.T

    So, any other Trainers/Breeders out there who want to vent their frustration on how unfair some Pokémon treat you? Come right here and let go of all of that anger and steam, before you smash your 3DS against a wall (I know I have contemplated doing just that...)
    __________________
    Keep on tinkering, you'll never know what overpowered thing you'll end up with!
    Reply With Quote

    Relevant Advertising!

      #2    
    Old December 1st, 2013 (6:30 AM).
    Sleeping Eevee's Avatar
    Sleeping Eevee Sleeping Eevee is offline
    Let Sleeping Eves Lie
       
      Join Date: Nov 2013
      Location: Northeast USA
      Gender: Female
      Nature: Quiet
      Posts: 27
      Despite me having a Marill with a perfect IV in speed...Marill say no, you'll get everything (even sometimes a lousy special attack stat!) except speed!
      I was trying to get perfect IVs in HP/Att/Def/Sp. Def/Speed, also get Huge Power, an Adamant nature, and egg moves Belly Drum and Aqua Jet (egg moves ? Easy. Messed up my Marill because of the lame IVs the two had). The nature I could do after a while. Now it comes down to IVs and...that dang nature.
      I was able to get ONE perfect Marill, and I've kind of mellowed out for a while now. But I still don't know how I'll managed to get another perfect Marill to throw in the day-care...
      __________________

      Friend Code: 4098-3294-3067
      Friend Safari: (Dark) Pawniard, Cacturne, Liepard
      **PLEASE PM ME IF YOU ADDED ME!!**
      Reply With Quote
        #3    
      Old December 1st, 2013 (6:41 AM).
      Shilver's Avatar
      Shilver Shilver is offline
      Cool Trainer
         
        Join Date: Aug 2012
        Location: Planet Earth
        Gender: Male
        Nature: Timid
        Posts: 18
        you eventually get what you want, all you need is patience and luck
        took me 2 days already to hatch a 5IVs elekid with ice punch, and yet 4IVs is the best i got
        __________________
        FC : 4227 1984 5668
        IGN : Phong
        Friend Safari Ghost : Shuppet Phantump Spiritomb
        Reply With Quote
          #4    
        Old December 1st, 2013 (8:54 AM).
        Nah's Avatar
        Nah Nah is offline
        • Moderator
         
        Join Date: Nov 2013
        Location: over there
        Age: 24
        Gender: Female
        Posts: 11,444
        This is why I don't bother much with IV breeding. I just don't have the patience for it; breeding for Hidden Abilities, natures, and egg moves is enough for me. Yeah, I got some Pokemon with good IVs, but that's because they or their parents had great IVs.

        Also, have you tried using the Destiny Knot?
        __________________
        NAH

        "Heh, I'm not scared of you!"

        D&DShop6th Gen
        Reply With Quote
          #5    
        Old December 1st, 2013 (9:10 AM).
        Kai Hirogame Kai Hirogame is offline
        The Mechanic
           
          Join Date: Nov 2013
          Location: The country next to Kalos...
          Gender: Male
          Nature: Modest
          Posts: 37
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by No Chance Without Zekrom View Post
          This is why I don't bother much with IV breeding. I just don't have the patience for it; breeding for Hidden Abilities, natures, and egg moves is enough for me. Yeah, I got some Pokemon with good IVs, but that's because they or their parents had great IVs.

          Also, have you tried using the Destiny Knot?
          Oh yeah, I use the Destiny Knot/Everstone combo to get nature + IV's but they always seem to transfer the useless IV's instead of the ones I want...
          __________________
          Keep on tinkering, you'll never know what overpowered thing you'll end up with!
          Reply With Quote
            #6    
          Old December 1st, 2013 (11:11 AM).
          Marth Marth is offline
          ...
          • Crystal Tier
           
          Join Date: Feb 2013
          Gender: Male
          Posts: 2,527
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Kai Hirogame View Post
          Oh yeah, I use the Destiny Knot/Everstone combo to get nature + IV's but they always seem to transfer the useless IV's instead of the ones I want...
          Do you exchange the parents periodically? In the end you should have two parents with 4IVs that cover all stats you want. That way your chances in getting one with the wanted 5IVs are optimized.

          The only time I had problems with breeding was when I wanted a 5IV Gligar. It took me days but I not only got the one I wanted but also a male with 6 perfect IVs (without his HA unfortunately) that I can use if I ever feel the need in breeding a Pokemon in the bug egg group.
          __________________

          Reply With Quote
            #7    
          Old December 1st, 2013 (11:18 AM).
          Kai Hirogame Kai Hirogame is offline
          The Mechanic
             
            Join Date: Nov 2013
            Location: The country next to Kalos...
            Gender: Male
            Nature: Modest
            Posts: 37
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by R.F. View Post
            Do you exchange the parents periodically? In the end you should have two parents with 4IVs that cover all stats you want. That way your chances in getting one with the wanted 5IVs are optimized.

            The only time I had problems with breeding was when I wanted a 5IV Gligar. It took me days but I not only got the one I wanted but also a male with 6 perfect IVs (without his HA unfortunately) that I can use if I ever feel the need in breeding a Pokemon in the bug egg group.
            I've tried everything really. I tried Dittos, I tried Noibats with the exact IV's like said Dittos but I only get Noibats who have exactly those stats. I'll put it in perspective:

            Noibat Male: Def/Sp. Att/Spd
            Noibat Female: Sp. Def/Spd

            Offspring:
            -Def/Spd
            -Def
            -Spd
            -Sp. Att/Spd
            -Sp. Def/Spd
            -Def/Sp. Att/Spd

            And so on and so forth. Never one with Sp. Att/Sp. Def/Spd or any other combinations, only those occur. Otherwise I'd switch out one that would end up giving me better chances but they never occur... :/

            I'm now trying to get a Def/Sp. Def/Spd Noibat by using a Def/Spd and a Sp. Def/Spd Noibat combo so I can breed it with the Def/Sp. Att/Spd Noibat but it just doesn't work...
            __________________
            Keep on tinkering, you'll never know what overpowered thing you'll end up with!
            Reply With Quote
              #8    
            Old December 1st, 2013 (11:45 AM).
            iTeruri's Avatar
            iTeruri iTeruri is offline
            iAm
               
              Join Date: May 2006
              Location: The Nederlands
              Nature: Relaxed
              Posts: 277
              http://destinyknot.tk/

              This site is pretty good for calculating your odds of hatching what you want.
              Reply With Quote
                #9    
              Old December 1st, 2013 (12:14 PM).
              KostK2Boss's Avatar
              KostK2Boss KostK2Boss is offline
              Europe Confirmed!!!
                 
                Join Date: Mar 2009
                Location: The distant Greece Region
                Age: 25
                Gender: Male
                Nature: Quirky
                Posts: 349
                I for one find it pretty funny how spoiled the new breeding mechanics have made all of us. Back in B/W, whenever I got a baby with one perfect IV, I thought it was the greatest thing ever. In X/Y though, if I ever get 4/6 IVs, I'm like "Nope. Not good enough".
                On a funnier and more meta note, who IS this IV judge? How can he tell if a Pokemon is good just by staring at it? If he really has that kind of gift, why hasn't he tried to make a fortune out of it? DOES he have that gift, or is he just a con artist? And for that matter, what motivates the hero to take a random stranger's word about whether his Pokemon are good or not.
                __________________
                3DS Friend Code: 3024 - 6078 - 0809

                Pokemon OmegaRuby IGN: Athens , Secret Base: Route 119
                (link)

                Reply With Quote
                  #10    
                Old December 1st, 2013 (12:25 PM).
                Kai Hirogame Kai Hirogame is offline
                The Mechanic
                   
                  Join Date: Nov 2013
                  Location: The country next to Kalos...
                  Gender: Male
                  Nature: Modest
                  Posts: 37
                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by iTeruri View Post
                  http://destinyknot.tk/

                  This site is pretty good for calculating your odds of hatching what you want.
                  I would say "Thank you" but... Seeing those odds crushed my hope pretty damn hard... O.o
                  __________________
                  Keep on tinkering, you'll never know what overpowered thing you'll end up with!
                  Reply With Quote
                    #11    
                  Old December 1st, 2013 (12:49 PM).
                  Christopher's Avatar
                  Christopher Christopher is offline
                  Hear Me Roar
                  • Silver Tier
                   
                  Join Date: Feb 2010
                  Location: Oklahoma
                  Age: 24
                  Gender: Male
                  Nature: Bold
                  Posts: 1,332
                  I know this thread is about IV breeding, which is vastly easier this generation but to me, at least, perfection is not necessary.
                  I have to ask, what's the point of a perfect Noivern? It's role is a special attacker right? So there's no use in having 31 in attack. It's defenses aren't great, I doubt 31 extra points in either one will save you from a move that would otherwise knock you out. Hp, Sp.A and Speed would be the only ones I'd concern myself with. Just my opinion.
                  __________________
                  Reply With Quote
                    #12    
                  Old December 1st, 2013 (1:07 PM).
                  Kai Hirogame Kai Hirogame is offline
                  The Mechanic
                     
                    Join Date: Nov 2013
                    Location: The country next to Kalos...
                    Gender: Male
                    Nature: Modest
                    Posts: 37
                    Quote:
                    Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
                    I know this thread is about IV breeding, which is vastly easier this generation but to me, at least, perfection is not necessary.
                    I have to ask, what's the point of a perfect Noivern? It's role is a special attacker right? So there's no use in having 31 in attack. It's defenses aren't great, I doubt 31 extra points in either one will save you from a move that would otherwise knock you out. Hp, Sp.A and Speed would be the only ones I'd concern myself with. Just my opinion.
                    Well the thing is, Doctor (big Who fan btw :p ), I really want one with such spread for future endeavors and dabbles in breeding. Since Noivern is in the "Flying" Egg group I can use it when I want to IV Breed one of that group (which is why I want a male one as well). That way I don't have to beat around the bush with Dittos all the time.

                    "Present Pain for Future Gain" or something like that.
                    __________________
                    Keep on tinkering, you'll never know what overpowered thing you'll end up with!
                    Reply With Quote
                      #13    
                    Old December 3rd, 2013 (4:37 AM).
                    hughes's Avatar
                    hughes hughes is offline
                       
                      Join Date: Jan 2013
                      Location: Northeast US
                      Age: 24
                      Gender: Female
                      Nature: Quirky
                      Posts: 521
                      Quote:
                      Originally Posted by Kai Hirogame View Post
                      I've tried everything really. I tried Dittos, I tried Noibats with the exact IV's like said Dittos but I only get Noibats who have exactly those stats. I'll put it in perspective:

                      Noibat Male: Def/Sp. Att/Spd
                      Noibat Female: Sp. Def/Spd

                      I'm now trying to get a Def/Sp. Def/Spd Noibat by using a Def/Spd and a Sp. Def/Spd Noibat combo so I can breed it with the Def/Sp. Att/Spd Noibat but it just doesn't work...
                      What other friend safaris do you have access to? What I would suggest doing (I've been IV breeding all week so I understand your frustration), is breed more IVs into your female parent. Since she only has two perfect IVs, put her in the Daycare with an everstone and get a male Noibat/male of the flying egg group, and start breeding other traits into the offspring using power items. If you want Sp Att to be bred into the female, catch a male with 31 IVs and put a Power lens on it. Once you breed them, it will take a while before you get one with all the IVs you want (your goal should be a Sp Att/Sp Def/Spd offspring). Then do this again with another IV that you don't have that you want your perfect Noibat to have.

                      So far from my experiences, the best way to get a perfect offspring is to have both parents with 4 IVs, but even then it takes many eggs to get what you want (I've hatched at least 80 Drilburs with my 4 IV parents and only produced one perfect offspring but it had the wrong ability). Or sometimes you get lucky, since I got a perfect Houndour on the second egg.
                      __________________

                      Friend Safari:

                      My Trade Shop: Amestris Trade Shop & Breeding Services
                      My Pokemon Tumblr: Lumiose Cafe
                      Reply With Quote
                        #14    
                      Old December 10th, 2013 (8:45 AM).
                      Kai Hirogame Kai Hirogame is offline
                      The Mechanic
                         
                        Join Date: Nov 2013
                        Location: The country next to Kalos...
                        Gender: Male
                        Nature: Modest
                        Posts: 37
                        I just found out that you need to pay attention to what the IV Judge says...

                        Only if it's "With Stats like those... You simply can't be beat!" it means your Pokémon had 31 IV's in the stats he mentioned...

                        Explains why my breeding went down the crapper...
                        __________________
                        Keep on tinkering, you'll never know what overpowered thing you'll end up with!
                        Reply With Quote
                          #15    
                        Old December 30th, 2013 (4:40 AM).
                        Kobiashi Kobiashi is offline
                           
                          Join Date: Dec 2013
                          Age: 23
                          Gender: Male
                          Posts: 19
                          3 and a half days of breeding for my 5IV eevee (theres a mouthfull ...) and roughly 50 or so eggs into my treeko (10 batches of 5 eggs at a time) i totally agree with how it seems like im being laughed at ... not by my pokemon but by either the daycare couple or the IV Judge ..... they mock how many eggs i take away to hatch and how many times i come back or he mocks how many pokemon i actuallly bring for him to verify
                          __________________
                          3DS Freind Code: 1392-5586-9798
                          Reply With Quote
                            #16    
                          Old December 30th, 2013 (9:10 AM). Edited December 30th, 2013 by Griffinbane.
                          Griffinbane's Avatar
                          Griffinbane Griffinbane is offline
                          I hate Smeargle.
                          • Gold Tier
                           
                          Join Date: Mar 2008
                          Location: Pennsylvania, US
                          Age: 29
                          Gender: Female
                          Nature: Lax
                          Posts: 1,326
                          You guys will have to try to switch up parents if a whole slew of eggs don't turn out the way you want them to. I noticed that with males, they rarely pass down the speed IV along with attack so I had to get around this issue by breeding attack male with speed female. There's several IV combos that pop up very rarely depending on the IVs of the male and the female. I've mostly noticed the male because I chain breed a lot. Speed IVs on the female, speed IVs on the female... *deep breath*

                          *screams*

                          On the bright side, sometimes a person can get really lucky with the IV combos and get like 10 quints (5 31's, I mean) in one batch. A batch in my case means approximately 28 eggs. My latest batch yielded 13 quints. The batch before that yielded... one.
                          __________________
                          Terriermon and Lopmon

                          White: 1463 5558 5309
                          X: 2208 5685 5454
                          - - - -
                          Reply With Quote
                          Reply
                          Quick Reply

                          Sponsored Links
                          Thread Tools

                          Posting Rules
                          You may not post new threads
                          You may not post replies
                          You may not post attachments
                          You may not edit your posts

                          BB code is On
                          Smilies are On
                          [IMG] code is On
                          HTML code is Off

                          Forum Jump


                          All times are GMT -8. The time now is 1:36 PM.