RMT Need help finishing team!

Started by Dragonkid0207 December 6th, 2013 5:05 PM
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Dragonite @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
- Roost
- Dragon Claw
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake

Talonflame @ Choice Band
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 100 Spd / 252 Atk / 156 HP
- Flare Blitz
- U-turn
- Brave Bird
- Tailwind

Gourgeist-Super @ Leftovers
Ability: Frisk
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Seed Bomb
- Leech Seed
- Pain Split

Forretress @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 Atk
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Stealth Rock
- Volt Switch
- Rapid Spin
- Gyro Ball

Lucario @ Lucarionite
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Crunch
- Bullet Punch

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Wish
- Protect
I'm basically already done it's just that if you noticed, i have three Pokemon with leftovers. I just wanted to know what other items I could use. I'm pretty sure Vaporeon needs Leftovers the most but what do i give to gourgeist and forretress?
Please help me, this team has worked really well so far in terms of synergy and consistency.
Hmmm, let me guess.
Not very effective?

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Three Pokemon holding the sme item isn't a problem if this is for battles on Pokemon Showdown or with your friends. If its for official tournaments or Battle Spot battles, then its a problem.

But it's actually Forretress that needs the Leftovers the most, since it lacks any sort of recovery whatsoever. Vaporeon can heal itself with Wish+Protect (or even Water Absorb), and Gourgeist has Leech Seed and Pain Split for recovery. So give Vaporeon or Gourgeist a Lum Berry to deal with status. The other one could use...maybe a Sitrus Berry or an Enigma Berry. Not a lotta options.

And does Tailwind really work on a Choice set?
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Three Pokemon holding the sme item isn't a problem if this is for battles on Pokemon Showdown or with your friends. If its for official tournaments or Battle Spot battles, then its a problem.

But it's actually Forretress that needs the Leftovers the most, since it lacks any sort of recovery whatsoever. Vaporeon can heal itself with Wish+Protect (or even Water Absorb), and Gourgeist has Leech Seed and Pain Split for recovery. So give Vaporeon or Gourgeist a Lum Berry to deal with status. The other one could use...maybe a Sitrus Berry or an Enigma Berry. Not a lotta options.

And does Tailwind really work on a Choice set?
Talonflame uses Tailwind as a last-ditch effort to support the team before it goes down. Speaking of Talonflame, it needs enough Speed EVs to outspeed Jolly Mega Kangaskhan (Adamant with 92 HP/252 Atk/164 Spe).

Dragonite needs Fire Punch or Thunder Punch over Earthquake or Roost.

Also, since Talonflame and Dragonite are weak to Stealth Rock, a Rapid Spinner is needed. Excadrill and Starmie do this job for you:
Excadrill:
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide
-Rapid Spin
-Shadow Claw/Swords Dance
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Assault Vest/Air Balloon
Ability: Mold Breaker/Sand Rush

Starmie:
-Hydro Pump/Surf
-Psyshock/Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Rapid Spin
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure

or
-Scald
-Rapid Spin
-Psyshock/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
-Recover
Nature: Timid
EVs: 248 HP/32 Def/4 SAtk/224 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure

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Talonflame uses Tailwind as a last-ditch effort to support the team before it goes down. Speaking of Talonflame, it needs enough Speed EVs to outspeed Jolly Mega Kangaskhan (Adamant with 92 HP/252 Atk/164 Spe).

Dragonite needs Fire Punch or Thunder Punch over Earthquake or Roost.

Also, since Talonflame and Dragonite are weak to Stealth Rock, a Rapid Spinner is needed. Excadrill and Starmie do this job for you:
Excadrill:
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide
-Rapid Spin
-Shadow Claw/Swords Dance
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Assault Vest/Air Balloon
Ability: Mold Breaker/Sand Rush

Starmie:
-Hydro Pump/Surf
-Psyshock/Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Rapid Spin
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure

or
-Scald
-Rapid Spin
-Psyshock/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
-Recover
Nature: Timid
EVs: 248 HP/32 Def/4 SAtk/224 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
I actually have Forretress as my rapid spinner. As soon as i set up my rocks i either use Volt Switch (depending on what Pokemon they led with) or I switch out.
Hmmm, let me guess.
Not very effective?

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I actually have Forretress as my rapid spinner. As soon as i set up my rocks i either use Volt Switch (depending on what Pokemon they led with) or I switch out.
Darn it, I didn't see it. My bad. *facepalm*

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Talonflame uses Tailwind as a last-ditch effort to support the team before it goes down. Speaking of Talonflame, it needs enough Speed EVs to outspeed Jolly Mega Kangaskhan (Adamant with 92 HP/252 Atk/164 Spe).

Dragonite needs Fire Punch or Thunder Punch over Earthquake or Roost.
Ah, ok. That makes sense.

And I'm getting the feeling that Dragonite is suffering from 4 moveslot syndrome this gen.
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