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Old February 24th, 2005 (2:24 PM).
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I want to be a dragon pokemon trainer. I want an effective dragon team that is really strong agaisnt my friends and in the game.
So far this is my line up.
KindraLv.48
LatiosLv.70
SalamenceLv70
RayquazaLv.71

What i need help with is two other pokemon, i was thinikig of dragonite and charizrd even though he's not a dragon, but hey lance uses garydos which is worst.

Now what i have problem i need a good set of moves for each one. I want to make a powerful team that can knock out pokemon effectvily.

Please help me recommend moves for each of my pokemon. i have all the tm's and i have acces to ruby,leaf green,saphire, and collosium.
thanks in advance :rambo:
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Old February 24th, 2005 (3:52 PM).
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Flygon is cool over charizard but, you probably want something not 4x weak to ice

so go with Charizard or Gyrados

Charizard is better in Game
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Old February 25th, 2005 (5:06 PM).
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hey lance uses garydos which is worst
Its worse not worst.Its a comparison between 2 objects.

keep kingdra..important there, since all other dragon pokemon are either 2x or 4x weak to ice.
Kingdra[modest]@leftovers
surf
ice beam
rain dance
toxic/rest/HP grass

The main problem here, is helping out other swift swimmers which would most definitely have ice beam on their movesets.

Salamence[+Sp,-Def]
EVs - SpAtt,Sp,Att,hp
fire blast
dragon dance
earthquake
HP flying
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Old February 26th, 2005 (4:27 AM).
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Since Ice Demon gave movesets for those, I will give some for the others. :p

Latios @ Soul Dew 252 sp att, 252 spd, Timid
Psychic
Ice Beam
Recover
Thunderbolt

Rayquaza...? EW But if you must..
Aerial Ace
Extreme Speed
Earthquake
Overheat

Don't use Dragonite. You already have Salamence and Rayquaza both 4x weak to ice.

I guess I'd suggest to use BOTH Gyarados and Charizard.

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Belly Drum
Aerial Ace
Earthquake

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HP Fly
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Old February 26th, 2005 (12:46 PM).
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I like how both of you used HP: Flying in your movesets for an in-game team

the only reason Gyrados is worse in-game is due to lack of stab
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Old February 26th, 2005 (5:38 PM).
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I like how both of you used HP: Flying in your movesets for an in-game team

the only reason Gyrados is worse in-game is due to lack of stab
In game doesn't mean no HP flying. You can get it if you breed for it. And he didn't mention that he can't get it, so gg. If he says it now, then too bad.
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Old February 26th, 2005 (6:19 PM).
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I like how both of you used HP: Flying in your movesets for an in-game team

The just replace it with aerial ace.
Not that much of a brain teaser is it?
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Gyarados can't learn AA :p
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In game doesn't mean no HP flying. You can get it if you breed for it. And he didn't mention that he can't get it, so gg. If he says it now, then too bad.
What are the chances of a HP Flying power 70 on anything?




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The just replace it with aerial ace.
Not that much of a brain teaser is it?
lol
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Old February 27th, 2005 (3:11 PM).
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Lol you bunch of cheap, cheap players.

A dragon team means a DRAGON team, and you'll have to deal with a massive weakness to Ice.

Since it's in-game, Kingdra will want to be a Rain Dancer, so Rain Dance/Surf/Dragonbreath/Ice Beam seems good to me.

My mate has a kick arse Latios in-game, I think it's Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Psychic/Recover - Wipes anything in-game, and screws up alot against other GBAers, since they don't have as good teams as NBers do.

Salamence has great Attacking power, so make sure he has Earthquake, Aerial Ace (For STAB), since you can't breed Dragon Dance on it (unless you want to re-train it) I'll suggest throwing Fire Blast and Dragon Claw on it.

Rayquaza has always been kinda.. crappy.. to me in-game, but hell, he's another Dragon, so consider something like Dragon Claw/Extremespeed/Earthquake/Overheat or Fire Blast.

Now you need 2 more Dragons obviously, Dragonite is a beast in-game, consider something like Substitute/Focus Punch/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt for him.

Also, Flygon isn't all that bad, or you could go a little more defensive and grab Altaria.

OR, you could try flog Latias from someone and use it, basically the same way as Latios.

For Flygon - Fire Blast/Earthquake/Dragon Claw/Crunch or Quick Attack (You never know..)

Altaria could try and Dragon Dance up, I don't know about this one as I've never used it.

Just use it to get Dragon Dance onto Salamence.
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Gyarados can't learn AA :p
I was defending myself not anyone else and i suggested that the HP flying that i recommended for salamence could just be replaced by aerial ace.I never mentioned gyarados
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I can see that Ice Demon is trying to start an argument, but just ignore argumental type posts people.

Anyway, HP Flying could be a little hard to get in-game, so obviously Aerial Ace is the way to go for Salamence (Check what his Hidden Power is first - You never know).

Gyarados wise, you'll probably need to find an alternative physical attack, which I can't think of right now.. maybe Return.

Or go for a DDed up Hyper Beam heh.
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Old February 28th, 2005 (3:03 PM).
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Thanks. With all these sugestion's i will be able to make a great dragon team. So far here is my permanent list of dragon's.
Latios, Latias, Kindra, Salamence, Dragonite, Altaria
most poeple tell me to put hyper beam on most of them is this a good idea?
I also need a set of moves on my latias, and i taugh it Attract because, well, everyone i know that have powerful teams use pure male!!
I also need for poeple to tell good Vs. moveset not just for in game battles
and i need moves for altaria
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Old February 28th, 2005 (4:11 PM).
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Hyper beam isn't a good idea on all of them

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~Mist Ball/Psychic
~Thunderbolt
~Ice Beam
~Wish/Recover

Mist Ball is cool since it lowers other things special def 50% of the time but, psychic has 20 more points of power so take your pick

Wish can be passed to your fellow dragons who don't sport recovery moves but, recover is instant and you have decent speed to use it with
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Old February 28th, 2005 (6:54 PM).
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Very true. Though not all Dragon's are weak to Ice are they? But for a good team, I'd choose Gyrados (depending on the version) since he's pretty good. If you have FR/LG, teach him Fire Blast. I can't remember much for the other ones. But all in all, I'd say either Gyrados, Flygon, or Dragonite.
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~ Calm mind
~ Psychic
~ Dragonclaw
~ Recover

I like Dragonclaw, but ofcourse Icebeam and T-bolt are good coverages.
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Old March 1st, 2005 (1:18 PM).
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where do you get soul dew?
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where do you get soul dew?
Either by using a cheating device or buying an E-Reader AND the Eon Ticket scan card, which was given out as a promotional event by umm, Toys R Us (maybe other places but I'm not sure)
You'll probably have to end up just using the leftovers or trade with a friend who has it.
They sell Eon Tickets on Ebay if you have trouble finding one.
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Or stick with Leftovers and use Calm Mind to power up.

It's better.

And why are people suggesting non-dragons for a Dragon team lol?

Cheap, very cheap.

His team so far has stuck to true dragons though.
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For [email protected] i have also seen
[email protected][timid]@soul dew
EVs - Sp,hp,SpAtt
dragon claw
calm mind
substitute
recover

runs into problems with steels buh sub prevents stats and the likes which ppl have a tendency to use to destroy soul dew [email protected]

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I'm not sure whether the Lati's are fast enough to get a quick Sub up before status.

Obviously they outrun slow things like Weezing and Dusclops, but what about the occasional Toxic Sceptile or something?

Or those Venusaurs which have been given some speed EV's?

I prefer Knock Off to wipe Soul Dew, but Toxistalling does the job, which is why you suggested Sub, I just don't think they are fast enough to do it.
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it has base 110 speed (same as Gengar)

It will have no trouble out speeding Venusaur

Just send it out against something thats not faster than it and it will get the sub up and then it will sweep

Alternate set:


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~CM
~Dragon Claw ---> Cover everthing but steel and shedininja (lol)
~HP: Fire ---> Covers steel and the ninja
~Recover


Novelty Set:

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~Dragon Dance
~ Eq
~Shadow Ball/T-Bolt
~ Ice Beam/T-Bolt

Beam + Quake= Normal Effective against everything (except Ludicolo,Piloswine and gang)

T-Bolt for Skarm but, I think that a Soul Dew IB is good enough for it

Its a wierd set but, it can cath ppl off guard when they switch in Bliss to cover you
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Beam + Quake= Normal Effective against everything (except Ludicolo,Piloswine and gang)
Ice Beam is normal against Ludicolo and Piloswine. Ludicolo is part grass and both EQ and Ice Beam are normal against Piloswine. Unless you meant something else? :/
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Ice Beam + Earthquake is only not cool against Shedinja, and Surskit.

I never realised that the Lati's had a decent Speed stat going for them, the Sub thing could work pretty well then.
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Ice Beam is normal against Ludicolo and Piloswine. Ludicolo is part grass and both EQ and Ice Beam are normal against Piloswine. Unless you meant something else? :/

lol I meant that but I messed up
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