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I would just like to point out that Justin Bieber has done a lot of things that aren't exactly good and he is doing way more than just "acting out." Okay, I guess maybe some other teens would do some things Justin did, but that doesn't make the actions okay?? Like, for example, justin recently got on the news and got a lot of hate for egging his neighbors house. But the thing is, we're still allowed to dislike teenagers that egg our house dozens of times and then when we tell them to stop they get angry?? It would almost be stranger to just move on and say "well, teenagers egg houses, so it's acceptable, I'm not allowed to dislike this person' :X

Sorry it's just the phrase "unneeded hate" that got to me :x I DO agree that we generally hate on celebrities for trivial reasons, however, I do believe that Justin Bieber is not "undeserving" of this hate. It might be kinda mean to say, but honestly it's not that hard to be a better person lol (obviously, if JB cared)
This hate for the things that he did which were bought on by his break up with Selena the undeserved hate he got in 2009, 2010 and 2011, the homophobic remarks, the calling him a girl and calling him "untalented", he went and changed his music style so music snobs, like his haters could give him a break, that doesn't work with bandwagon hate, does it?

He honestly did NOTHING to anyone in 2009-2012, but people hated him for no logical reason... That's what gets to me... Seriously...

And that egging video sounds fake to me, listen to his voice and the neighbour's, Justin's sounds edited.

And Justin used to be a better person, until he broke up with Selena and his haters got to him.

How much talent do you need to become a successful pop star these days? As long as they are good looking then most people won't even care about their mediocre voice and shallow lyrics. That goes for Justin Bieber, One Direction and many more.
Us Directioners and Beliebers don't by 1D and JB's albums to listen to their faces, we obviously buy their albums to listen to their lyrics.
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"Believe in something bigger than yourself and find your purpose." - Justin Bieber
Us Directioners and Beliebers don't by 1D and JB's albums to listen to their faces.
A lot of their fans wouldn't have been so interested in them in the first place if they didn't know what they looked like. I think that goes for a lot of artists I'm not just picking on the Beebs and 1D. They wouldn't be selling out concerts full of screaming girls if they weren't so attractive, that's for sure. Beauty always sells.

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Look my 8 year old sistr says justin beavr sucks all pop stars suck boy bands suck kid shows now adays suck ok
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This hate for the things that he did which were bought on by his break up with Selena the undeserved hate he got in 2009, 2010 and 2011, the homophobic remarks, the calling him a girl and calling him "untalented", he went and changed his music style so music snobs, like his haters could give him a break, that doesn't work with bandwagon hate, does it?

He honestly did NOTHING to anyone in 2009-2012, but people hated him for no logical reason... That's what gets to me... Seriously...

And that egging video sounds fake to me, listen to his voice and the neighbour's, Justin's sounds edited.

And Justin used to be a better person, until he broke up with Selena and his haters got to him.
Justin Bieber has an amazing life so stop trying to paint a sob story for him. He has all the money, fans and fame anyone could want. I'm sure that's where some of the criticism/hate comes from, but that all comes with being a performer. It's not just Bieber who people crap on. Also everyone gets in bad relationships.

None what you mentioned excuses the things that he's been accused of doing. IF they are true that is, which I think some of them are. Residents in his own neighborhood have accused him of speeding around their street and even getting into arguments and spitting on people. He's definitely trying to force a badboy image for himself and it's failing hilariously. It's all just making him look like a massive douchebag, but most of his fans are so blinded by their obsession with him that they will defend him no matter what he does.

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I 4got taylor Swift who is single 5 times a week she sucks oh no I broke up with boy he was Kennedy whos next as her boyfriend

A lot of their fans wouldn't have been so interested in them in the first place if they didn't know what they looked like. I think that goes for a lot of artists I'm not just picking on the Beebs and 1D. They wouldn't be selling out concerts full of screaming girls if they weren't so attractive, that's for sure. Beauty always sells.
True without beauty mr beaver would b poor again yes leave it to beavr to do more drugz with lil twist
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I 4got taylor Swift who is single 5 times a week she sucks oh no I broke up with boy he was Kennedy whos next as her boyfriend



True without beauty mr beaver would b poor again yes leave it to beavr to do more drugz with lil twist
Wow. You're mature, how old are you? 12?! His name is Justin Bieber* Grow Up!
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Wow. You're mature, how old are you? 12?! His name is Justin Bieber* Grow Up!
Actually 15 how u feel now also justin does drugs hey kuds go smoke some leaves n b justout to justin with justin beaver lil twist lets leave it to beaver 4 now go along kids drugs r cool cuz beaver does
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I'm not a fan of Bieber, so I'm not defending him or anything, I'm simply speaking about celebrities in general. They're normal people (some are a bit more talented, but essentially, they're normal) with attention, and the media is always grovelling for any kind of story that will make them money. Justin Bieber did drugs. So did billions of other people. Yes, he should really be more careful with the paparazzi constantly following him, but it's only cuz he's famous. Does everyone hate all the other people that do drugs? I don't think so. Did he make some bad decisions? Yes. Does every other human being on the planet? Yes. So, while I can't control how you feel, you really shouldn't give him more hate than any other human being.

Also, bad speling n gramar dont asist n argumnts. I don't mean to be rude, but I can't really tell what you're saying.

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I'm not a fan of Bieber, so I'm not defending him or anything, I'm simply speaking about celebrities in general. They're normal people (some are a bit more talented, but essentially, they're normal) with attention, and the media is always grovelling for any kind of story that will make them money. Justin Bieber did drugs. So did billions of other people. Yes, he should really be more careful with the paparazzi constantly following him, but it's only cuz he's famous. Does everyone hate all the other people that do drugs? I don't think so. Did he make some bad decisions? Yes. Does every other human being on the planet? Yes. So, while I can't control how you feel, you really shouldn't give him more hate than any other human being.

Also, bad speling n gramar dont asist n argumnts. I don't mean to be rude, but I can't really tell what you're saying.
Look I was saying is justin is not a role model 4 kids I can see if he did it secretly when there were no cameras or people watching n yes I no celebrities r stalked but still shouldve waited till they were gone still not a role model for kids
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Did he choose to be a role model? Did he sign up for it? I doubt it, as I don't believe even he sees himself as a good one. While he should be expected to act civilly and in a way that will portray him in a good light, he should not be hated simply because he doesn't. If you just wanted to make music (using that term a tad but loosely) and were then given the unwanted responsibility of having to act in accordance with societies expectations of a "good role model," how happy would you be about that, especially if you were someone who was "rebellious" and "rambunctious?" Also, you said it would be ok if he did it secretly. I'm assuming when cameras are on you 24/7 it's a bit hard to have a private life. I doubt he was trying to show the world his drugs, the media just found out.

Dear God, I'm defending him -.- All I'm saying is it's his choice in the end, just like it is every other persons.

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What.

How exactly is the lack of belief in a higher deity "overrated"? And "ew"?

Look, not all atheists are scumbags like TheAmazingAtheist. I'm not personally one (I'm agnostic), but a number of my friends are, and they're perfectly decent people.
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One Direction are overrated, okay they're decent-ish singers but their following is monuments.

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Did he choose to be a role model? Did he sign up for it? I doubt it, as I don't believe even he sees himself as a good one. While he should be expected to act civilly and in a way that will portray him in a good light, he should not be hated simply because he doesn't. If you just wanted to make music (using that term a tad but loosely) and were then given the unwanted responsibility of having to act in accordance with societies expectations of a "good role model," how happy would you be about that, especially if you were someone who was "rebellious" and "rambunctious?" Also, you said it would be ok if he did it secretly. I'm assuming when cameras are on you 24/7 it's a bit hard to have a private life. I doubt he was trying to show the world his drugs, the media just found out.

Dear God, I'm defending him -.- All I'm saying is it's his choice in the end, just like it is every other persons.
Yes he did sign up for it he has kids listening to his music automatically role model even if he doesn't sign up he did anyways by being celebrity 4 kids showbiz
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She's good enough to get a cover on Rolling Stone who also gave her album 4 stars. You know you're talented when you're really liked by Rolling Stones.
Woah. You do realize that Rolling Stone just follows whatever is trending? For instance - they initially hated Led Zeppelin. Now that they're popular, Rolling Stone starts putting them on album covers. Why? They're sell-outs. Rather than voice their own opinion, they just gloss over what's trending.

So yeah, they're overrated.


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-The Nolan Batman movies. They try so hard to be "dark" and "realistic" that they ruin the whole point of Batman. To me, the 1989 Batman was the best because while it was dark and full of emotion, it also kept true to the idea of Batman by being a bit fantastical and over-the-top. Plus, the acting. Yes, I am aware I'm one of the 5 people who prefer Jack Nicholson to Heath Ledger, but it's pretty much inarguable that Keaton's portrayal of Batman is much better than Bale's.

-The Avengers. Yeah, it was a good movie. But don't say it's the best superhero movie. Just don't. It was a mindless summer blockbuster, and the only reason it's seen as more is because of all the characters it features.

-Adventure Time. Why so many guys at my school like this is beyond me. I guess I'm just not a huge fan of the whole idea of random humor.

-Nickelback. Don't try to tell me "oh, everyone hates them, they're not overrated". No. Have you seen how many albums they sell? They're overrated.
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Well I can now see what a person calls "overrated" is just an opinion. Though personally I think more people should give Lorde a chance cause and not judge her music just on "Royals" or "Team" I think she's stands out among all the other artist today who just sing about partying , and sex and drinking and stuff. She seems more real than other artists today to me. I'm not gonna force people to like her or any type of music though, they can freely choose to listen and enjoy whoever.

I've never gave my thoughts on who I think is overrated. I definitely might get judged , but I could careless. Personally I think Bruno Mars is overrated. I mean , yeah I acknowledge he has a good voice, but a lot of his songs are boring and all the same to me. But everytime I look at the Grammy's Facebook page all I see are comments about how people think Bruno Mars should win everything. While I can see his talent, I just don't find him as special as people make him out to be. I really think he's only performing at the Super Bowl Half Time Show this year cause of how successful he is. He's just not too special to me. I kind of wish Red Hot Chili Peppers were the main performers instead of the secondary group and Bruno Mars would be the follow-up guest. Or if RHCP performed by themselves. That would be great.
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Yes he did sign up for it he has kids listening to his music automatically role model even if he doesn't sign up he did anyways by being celebrity 4 kids showbiz
Really? Please show me where he specifically stated "I realise that by singing my 'songs' I will be taking on the likeness of a role model and agree to act like one."

Just sayin'...

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Well I can now see what a person calls "overrated" is just an opinion. Though personally I think more people should give Lorde a chance cause and not judge her music just on "Royals" or "Team" I think she's stands out among all the other artist today who just sing about partying , and sex and drinking and stuff. She seems more real than other artists today to me. I'm not gonna force people to like her or any type of music though, they can freely choose to listen and enjoy whoever.
People judge Justin Bieber on "Baby", the only reason that video has so many dislikes is due to bandwagon hate and trolls.

I've never gave my thoughts on who I think is overrated. I definitely might get judged , but I could careless. Personally I think Bruno Mars is overrated. I mean , yeah I acknowledge he has a good voice, but a lot of his songs are boring and all the same to me. But everytime I look at the Grammy's Facebook page all I see are comments about how people think Bruno Mars should win everything. While I can see his talent, I just don't find him as special as people make him out to be. I really think he's only performing at the Super Bowl Half Time Show this year cause of how successful he is. He's just not too special to me. I kind of wish Red Hot Chili Peppers were the main performers instead of the secondary group and Bruno Mars would be the follow-up guest. Or if RHCP performed by themselves. That would be great.
NAILED IT, RIGHT THERE! He IS talented, but he also IS overrated, I don't hate him, I just cannot stand him (due to being overrated), I quite like him too, but, he is overrated.
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What.

How exactly is the lack of belief in a higher deity "overrated"? And "ew"?

Look, not all atheists are scumbags like TheAmazingAtheist. I'm not personally one (I'm agnostic), but a number of my friends are, and they're perfectly decent people.
Agreed. I know a few Atheists who are decent people. Then you have the guy who's a complete assbutt and judges your intelligence based on a choice to believe in something, using that as an excuse to see himself as a superior being because of that. No, sir, you're merely a douche. ^^

Well I can now see what a person calls "overrated" is just an opinion. Though personally I think more people should give Lorde a chance cause and not judge her music just on "Royals" or "Team" I think she's stands out among all the other artist today who just sing about partying , and sex and drinking and stuff. She seems more real than other artists today to me. I'm not gonna force people to like her or any type of music though, they can freely choose to listen and enjoy whoever.
Thank god someone can put that feeling into words. I like her songs, they're catchy and, like you said, don't revolve around this mad party/drink/sex mentality of most pop music. It makes me pretty annoyed when most songs on the radio today are all about the party/drink/sex lifestyle.

I've never gave my thoughts on who I think is overrated. I definitely might get judged , but I could careless. Personally I think Bruno Mars is overrated. I mean , yeah I acknowledge he has a good voice, but a lot of his songs are boring and all the same to me. But everytime I look at the Grammy's Facebook page all I see are comments about how people think Bruno Mars should win everything. While I can see his talent, I just don't find him as special as people make him out to be. I really think he's only performing at the Super Bowl Half Time Show this year cause of how successful he is. He's just not too special to me. I kind of wish Red Hot Chili Peppers were the main performers instead of the secondary group and Bruno Mars would be the follow-up guest. Or if RHCP performed by themselves. That would be great.
Wait, Bruno Mars is really that popular? I feel like for me, he just fizzled out after the Lazy Song and I haven't heard much from him other than a few songs, but that's about it...

BUT YES TO CHILI PEPPERS. CHILI PEPPERS ALL DAY EVERY DAY IS A-OK.

People judge Justin Bieber on "Baby", the only reason that video has so many dislikes is due to bandwagon hate and trolls.

NAILED IT, RIGHT THERE! He IS talented, but he also IS overrated, I don't hate him, I just cannot stand him (due to being overrated), I quite like him too, but, he is overrated.
It's kinda confusing to say "I don't hate him, but I can't stand him". To my mind, those are the same sentiment.

I just want to put this out here though: I don't see something as truly being overrated if there's a whole fad around hating it. Bieber is a prime example. I feel like, my own opinion aside, it's cooler to dislike him than to like him, so can we really call that kind of a thing overrated?

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I just want to put this out here though: I don't see something as truly being overrated if there's a whole fad around hating it. Bieber is a prime example. I feel like, my own opinion aside, it's cooler to dislike him than to like him, so can we really call that kind of a thing overrated?
It's NOT cooler do hate him than it is to like him, it's stupider... He's only hated on the internet barely outside of it, due to bandwagoners and similar people, no-one really hates him, they only want to look cool, by bullying someone from behind a PC screen, his haters are mainly gamers, teenage males, very few girls, Bronies, atheists, celebrities who aren't as successful as him and other people trying to fit in, they like to troll the fans and bully them so they feel superior, Justin is NOT gay, nor is he "untalented" or "talentless"... Seriously, what did he do to people to make them hate him? (BEFORE the controversy of 2013). He did NOTHING, the only reason he has been mucking around is due to his break-up with Selena and the constant, unwanted hate got to him.
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"Treat people with kindness." - Harry Styles

"Feel free to insult me, but you don’t have the right to insult our fans." - Louis Tomlinson

"Believe in something bigger than yourself and find your purpose." - Justin Bieber

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Sideshow Bob, I'm not getting into an argument over Justin Bieber, because I don't really see the point in arguing over something I couldn't care less about. Not to mention the fact that everything you say screams out that you're a huge Bieber fan and I've seen enough arguments with other fangirls to know that there's no point in trying to say much about said fandom because you'll always be wrong in their eyes. But some things about your previous post are so narrow-minded it's actually difficult to take it seriously.

It's NOT cooler do hate him than it is to like him, it's stupider... He's only hated on the internet barely outside of it,
I can find plenty of people outside of the internet who dislike Bieber, and for several different reasons.

due to bandwagoners and similar people, no-one really hates him, they only want to look cool,
No, there is perfectly good evidence to justify why some people might dislike Justin Bieber, and it isn't "to look cool" as you say. He's done things that if another person on the street did, they'd instantly be called out on it and receive similar criticism.

by bullying someone from behind a PC screen, his haters are mainly gamers, teenage males, very few girls,
A lot of females I know dislike him.

Bronies, atheists,
I'm sure there's plenty of atheists who like Bieber. Just because you consider yourself better than an atheist doesn't mean they don't have a right to like the same things you do. That isn't fair. I'm guessing you don't like My Little Pony either. Are you going to call yourself superior to them? Are you going to disallow them from liking the same things as you do because you're so biased against them?

celebrities who aren't as successful as him and other people trying to fit in, they like to troll the fans and bully them so they feel superior, Justin is NOT gay,
No one on this thread has stated anything about Bieber's sexual inclination. Please don't bring that into it.

nor is he "untalented" or "talentless"... Seriously, what did he do to people to make them hate him? (BEFORE the controversy of 2013). He did NOTHING, the only reason he has been mucking around is due to his break-up with Selena and the constant, unwanted hate got to him.
As I mentioned in my previous post, It was a thing to dislike Justin Bieber in the past. But as time has gone on, He's shown himself as a Primadonna Delinquent. Yes, maybe he's suffering from pressure and "unwanted hate", but that's no excuse for trying to be a "bad boy".

As I've said, I don't want to get into an argument about Justin Bieber. If you want a thread about him do it elsewhere please. And try to think a little bit before you go posting things that are so single-minded. As I think I might have said before: I quite like some of Bieber's music, but he isn't a person I'd like to ever speak to.
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I don't really think that anything is overrated. People have their opinions and I don't mind that. If someone thinks that Justin Bieber is awesome and somebody else thinks the opposite... Well, I couldn't care less about it, really. I don't judge people/shows etc. based on what other people say about them. Thus, for me, there's nothing like "overrated".
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My Little Pony. What's the big deal about this show? Like I watched a few episodes a few years ago and I just didn't get it at all? It's not even funny or anything. If I was like 10 I could find it funny but grown people watching it is just, no. Not to mention the god awful "Bronies". Hardcore Bronies, that is.

Darren Criss, huuuugely overrated in both the glee fandom and outside of it. His voice is beyond awful and his acting, dramatic acting, is cringe-worthy. He gets by on his looks but he'll be bald by the time he's 30. Plus he can be a total douche at times.

One Direction, now I like them, I'm not a fan of them but I genuinely think they care about music + their fans, plus they actually are talented, and they seem like a really nice group of guys but honestly the hysteria surrounding them is just so ott.

A lot of other singers, who aren't necessarily bad, I just don't get what the big hype about them is.

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My Little Pony. What's the big deal about this show? Like I watched a few episodes a few years ago and I just didn't get it at all? It's not even funny or anything. If I was like 10 I could find it funny but grown people watching it is just, no. Not to mention the god awful "Bronies". Hardcore Bronies, that is.
True, I don't know what there is to like about that show either, to me, it's just another annoying mediocre show from the 2000s/2010s that I cannot stand, due to the lack of interest, maybe if I were a Brony, I would enjoy it.

Darren Criss, huuuugely overrated in both the glee fandom and outside of it. His voice is beyond awful and his acting, dramatic acting, is cringe-worthy. He gets by on his looks but he'll be bald by the time he's 30. Plus he can be a total douche at times.

One Direction, now I like them, I'm not a fan of them but I genuinely think they care about music + their fans, plus they actually are talented, and they seem like a really nice group of guys but honestly the hysteria surrounding them is just so ott.
True, true and true, I love 1D, some of their fans are annoying and I hate how Harry is the main face of 1D, I love all five members, but, Niall just that tad more, NO-ONE should be the face of the band, but, it's their management, their management is horrible, they make 1D do things like date people and stuff. I'm sure Harry and Kendall Jenner is just for publicity... I ship Larry Stylinson...

A lot of other singers, who aren't necessarily bad, I just don't get what the big hype about them is.

Oh and ARTPOP.
NAILED IT!
"Hello, I'm your hope, you're my hope, I'm J-Hope!" - J-Hope

"Music really transcends languages, and it means so much." - RM

"Go on your path, even if you live for a day." - Jimin

"Cause I'm Irish, and everyone remembers me." - Niall Horan

"Treat people with kindness." - Harry Styles

"Feel free to insult me, but you don’t have the right to insult our fans." - Louis Tomlinson

"Believe in something bigger than yourself and find your purpose." - Justin Bieber