The Grammys... Are a joke!

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The recent Grammys has just finished, leaving Lorde, PSY, and many other (YouTube) popular stars...
Lorde is 17... The Grammys stated that they usually make young artists wait a while before getting one...
One Direction have been pumping out inspirational songs all last year, one of them is "Story of My Life", is the Grammys about talent or popularity these days?
Justin Bieber deserved one last year for his hard work on Believe... Not even a nomination, but, PSY and Carly Rae Jepsen were nominated...

There are many other artists who actually deserved Grammys, but, didn't even get nominated...
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I don't really see how Bieber deserves one. He's a clown.

I can't really tell if One Direction are actually talented or just pretty boys.
Well, Justin does deserve one, he is VERY talented and so are 1D, One Direction have so much inspiring songs.
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The Grammy community picks their nominees based on the date of their release. This year any song or album that was released between October 1, 2012 and September 30, 2013 were eligible to be Grammy nominees.(or any new artist who released material during that period can be nominated Best New Artist) And from what I'm reading , "Story Of My Life " was released on October 25, 2013 and Midnight Memories was released November 25, 2013. So therefore that song and the album it came from wasn't eligible for a Grammy. Sorry to say that, but that's their system. If they allowed every song and any album for this year then the list of nominees would be long. The time period narrows it down. Call it as unfair as you'd like, but that's how they do things. You're just gonna have to wait till next year for 1D to possibly get a Grammy for that song/abum.

If you need proof that this is how they do it, then here. From Their official site.

And where did you hear the "they usually make young artists wait a while before getting one." part from? I can't find anywhere where they put that restriction. Besides Lorde has been relevant enough to them for her to be qualified. He first EP "The Love Club." was released on Soundcloud in November 2012 (and free to download as well) and if you read their FAQs, anything distributed via the Internet is eligible to be nominated as long as it can distributed in the US.

Recordings must be in general distribution in the United States, i.e. sales by label to a branch or recognized independent distributor, via the Internet, or mail order/retail sales for a nationally marketed product.
Soundcloud is available worldwide so anyone could of downloaded it. It was release digitally in March 2013 and so was her song "Royals" and then the Love Club EP was released in CD format in May. Her full length debut was released on September 27, three days before the eligibility period ended. "Royals" then peaked number 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 and now her song "Team" is at number 8. That all being said, I definitely think this all made her more than qualified to win a Grammy. And she got two and I personally think she well deserved them. Maybe they just find her talented?

Also, One Direction are way more popular than Lorde so if the Grammys were about just popularity, then they would of won all of the awards and so would Justin Bieber. So I think it's more talent than anything. Or who they consider talented at least and what one person says is talented is gonna differ than what another says is talented.
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Well, I think Lorde is deserving of one. I know that I hate modern pop, but her voice is actually pretty good. I think Royals gets too much hate by the way.

AND THE ONLY ARTIST THAT GOT CHEATED WAS DAVID BOWIE


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AND THE ONLY ARTIST THAT GOT CHEATED WAS DAVID BOWIE
A friend of mine who loves David Bowie would agree with you. Led Zeppelin's album is just a live album that's just a recording from a concert in 2007. Yet it won over Bowie. The only thing that made it qualified is that was released during the eligiblity period. There's no denying that Zeppelin are a very talented group of people, but I sort wonder how a live album won over the other choices.
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Kendrick Lamar should have won, not Macklemore, sorry not sorry. If there's doubts as to what genre your music is actually rap, then you shouldn't be there in the first place. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, but I think that was a big mistake on their part.

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A friend of mine who loves David Bowie would agree with you. Led Zeppelin's album is just a live album that's just a recording from a concert in 2007. Yet it won over Bowie. The only thing that made it qualified is that was released during the eligiblity period. There's no denying that Zeppelin are a very talented group of people, but I sort wonder how a live album won over the other choices.
I'd love to meet that friend...

But anyways, Led Zeppelin's live show was amazing. Still, I think Bowie deserved the Grammy. But, just because It's live doesn't mean it's bad - 60's and 70's rock band are well known to actually have equal (if not, better) performances compared to studio. Just listen to The Who's Live at Leeds, and you'll see what I'm talking about.


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I'd love to meet that friend...

But anyways, Led Zeppelin's live show was amazing. Still, I think Bowie deserved the Grammy. But, just because It's live doesn't mean it's bad - 60's and 70's rock band are well known to actually have equal (if not, better) performances compared to studio. Just listen to The Who's Live at Leeds, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Never said their live performance was bad. I'm pretty sure knowing Zeppelin it was really legitimately good. Just odd that the Grammys picked a live album over the others. Though I guess they really do count any album from the eligiblity period. Nothing wrong with live albums at all especially when their great performers!
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Never said their live performance was bad. I'm pretty sure knowing Zeppelin it was really legitimately good. Just odd that the Grammys picked a live album over the others. Though I guess they really do count any album from the eligiblity period. Nothing wrong with live albums at all especially when their great performers!
Well, quite a lot of debate has actually been about whether the Grammy's value art or popularity. Judging by the fact that the only Led Zeppelin song anyone around here knows is Stairway to Heaven, I'm assuming it was leaning towards the art side.

Gonna put this here for thread relevancy:

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Ummm David Bowie the only artist that's gotten cheated?

How bout the greatest rapper of all time, Tupac Shakur? XD Or The Notorious B.I.G. or Nas or Public Enemy or N.W.A.? Btw Kendrick Lamar was snubbed this year

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They sure are a joke, have never trusted the Grammys- (especially for what they did in 1989 - I have never forgave them for that decision ([and the main reason I hate Jethro Tull too]) - every time I hear on the news about upcoming Grammys that decision always comes back. Had to let it out.

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Well, quite a lot of debate has actually been about whether the Grammy's value art or popularity. Judging by the fact that the only Led Zeppelin song anyone around here knows is Stairway to Heaven, I'm assuming it was leaning towards the art side.

Gonna put this here for thread relevancy:

LANGUAGE ALRET

In this case I'd say it was more of the artistic side. Though in the case of Macklemore getting an award for "Thrift Shop" was more of popularity since that song was number 1 for weeks. I don't care for rap at all, but I'm sure there were rap song much better written lyrics and more artistry.

Edit: ADoseOfBuckley's rants are always enjoyable. And the jazz song in the video sound much more musically well done that the other songs that won Grammys that year and I'm not even really into jazz. [Though I knew who Arcade Fire were in 2011 and thought they deserved that Grammy].
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I think DMX , n many others deserves a grammy but so corrupted shoild b based on talent not popularity
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I think DMX , n many others deserves a grammy but so corrupted shoild b based on talent not popularity
I had to look up who that was. He didn't even have a album this year and the album he released came out in September 2012 so he would even have been qualified this year. Maybe last year though. He really isn't that known it seem cause I had to look him up, but I didn't know of Esperanza Spalding until that ADoseofBuckley video ZangFloyd posted. Apparently though her album from 2010 peaked at 34 in the Billboard 200 which isn't bad for a jazz artist. So I like to think the Grammys pick their nominee based on a combination of talent and success in the last year. In some cases the winner are picked based on talent and other cases I'd say it's based on popularity. In DMX's case this year, he just missed the eligibility period.
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He really isn't that known it seem cause I had to look him up,
The thing is DMX is a hip hop legend but, his prime was in the late 90's and his stuff now isn't as good as it used to be...

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DMX is mostly known in the hip-hop culture and a great artist in the late 90's and early 2000's. It's a real shame that he doesn't do a lot of songs anymore, he's a really good lyricist.

Also, if Grammy awards were based on popularity and not talent, Justin Bieber would've owned that crap because of all those pre-teens that admires him. So, no I don't really think it's based on popularity.
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