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Old January 8th, 2015 (4:16 AM).
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Hey Glitchy, but this is very possible on hacking for pokemon red, or its only a pixel art?

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Yeah I'm pretty excited to do this actually.

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You are quickly becoming my most idolized hacker.. If you don't stop with this trend of amazing me, you might overtake Mateo in no time!

Haha, really looking forward to this hack now, and I sincerely hope that using the disassembly is easier, and that it won't give you too much trouble as you fight to get caught up.

Quick off-topic question: How difficult would you say it is to learn ASM, as compared to HTML or aught similar? I'm looking to learn ASM so I can hack PokéRed as well, but I'm a bit worried that I won't be able to learn, and I haven't found any decent tutorials that are actually newbie friendly xD If all else fails, I'll just stick to RPG Maker VX Ace and abandon my hopes of hacking Pokémon completely lol. (Currently, that's the plan in action.)
Thanks! Yeah I'll be doing the minor stuff now and work my way up to the battle scene hahah.

ASM is definitely harder than HTML. HTML isnt a programming language, so they're two different beasts. I learned scripting languages first when I was way younger, like JavaScript. During college, I learned more languages. First I learned C++, which is lower level, and finally ASM, which almost as basic as you can get. The higher level languages let you skip many lines when you code, so the lower level you get, the more you need to really understand the system architecture to know how to get the desired result.

I don't know if that's the right course, but that's what worked for me. If you don't know any programming languages, I'll recommend python or JavaScript, and then try to wrap your head around C++ while learning about the gameboy architecture.


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Hey Glitchy, but this is very possible on hacking for pokemon red, or its only a pixel art?

Funny you should mention that. The artists of those backgrounds gave me permission to use those in my game. Those backgrounds are certainly possible in Pokemon Red, I've already added them. See the latest battle videos here:

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Thanks! Yeah I'll be doing the minor stuff now and work my way up to the battle scene hahah.

ASM is definitely harder than HTML. HTML isnt a programming language, so they're two different beasts. I learned scripting languages first when I was way younger, like JavaScript. During college, I learned more languages. First I learned C++, which is lower level, and finally ASM, which almost as basic as you can get. The higher level languages let you skip many lines when you code, so the lower level you get, the more you need to really understand the system architecture to know how to get the desired result.

I don't know if that's the right course, but that's what worked for me. If you don't know any programming languages, I'll recommend python or JavaScript, and then try to wrap your head around C++ while learning about the gameboy architecture.
By your description and instructions, it would be far better for me to simply stick with using tools and such lol. But for the time being I'll stick with RPG Maker, since I have no need for programming skills.

I mentioned HTML because I know some basic HTML and CSS, enough to make a functioning webpage, but not enough to make it look good. And I know a tiny bit of JavaScript, and by the way your describe things... Yeah, I'll never finish JavaScript, so I should just give up on ASM lol.

Thanks for the reply though~

Now, to get myself back on topic here...

Looks like the only sprite for the player that I've seen is James. Will we have gender selection? I kind of hate Jessie, but I'd still rather play as a female character, if it's possible. No big issue, but thought I'd ask regardless.
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Yeah I'm pretty excited to do this actually.



Thanks! Yeah I'll be doing the minor stuff now and work my way up to the battle scene hahah.

ASM is definitely harder than HTML. HTML isnt a programming language, so they're two different beasts. I learned scripting languages first when I was way younger, like JavaScript. During college, I learned more languages. First I learned C++, which is lower level, and finally ASM, which almost as basic as you can get. The higher level languages let you skip many lines when you code, so the lower level you get, the more you need to really understand the system architecture to know how to get the desired result.

I don't know if that's the right course, but that's what worked for me. If you don't know any programming languages, I'll recommend python or JavaScript, and then try to wrap your head around C++ while learning about the gameboy architecture.




Funny you should mention that. The artists of those backgrounds gave me permission to use those in my game. Those backgrounds are certainly possible in Pokemon Red, I've already added them. See the latest battle videos here:

And also the sprites ar doable? Its damn cool... anyway you know if in pokemon red, with hack/reverse engineering, is possible to put player on top side during battles? (switch player and cpu position)

And those thing about pkmn red, is possible also on pokemon gold/crystal? (have better sprite and attack animation than pkmn red eheh)
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And also the sprites ar doable? Its damn cool... anyway you know if in pokemon red, with hack/reverse engineering, is possible to put player on top side during battles? (switch player and cpu position)

And those thing about pkmn red, is possible also on pokemon gold/crystal? (have better sprite and attack animation than pkmn red eheh)
Yep it's possible on all generations! Switching the position of the trainers is possible too! Except you'll need to make a back sprite for every trainer

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By your description and instructions, it would be far better for me to simply stick with using tools and such lol. But for the time being I'll stick with RPG Maker, since I have no need for programming skills.

I mentioned HTML because I know some basic HTML and CSS, enough to make a functioning webpage, but not enough to make it look good. And I know a tiny bit of JavaScript, and by the way your describe things... Yeah, I'll never finish JavaScript, so I should just give up on ASM lol.

Thanks for the reply though~

Now, to get myself back on topic here...

Looks like the only sprite for the player that I've seen is James. Will we have gender selection? I kind of hate Jessie, but I'd still rather play as a female character, if it's possible. No big issue, but thought I'd ask regardless.
Stick with JavaScript, its a fun and really versatile language! For your question: there is no gender
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Yep it's possible on all generations! Switching the position of the trainers is possible too! Except you'll need to make a back sprite for every trainer



Stick with JavaScript, its a fun and really versatile language! For your question: there is no gender
Whoa, really? I know that after you need to make trainers backsprites XD its normal... anyway you cant make a very short video of proof of concept of this, for pokemon crystal at least? Also leaving cpu trainers spirtes on down become glitchy, dont matter, i want only to see the player on top, better visual XD
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Yep it's possible on all generations! Switching the position of the trainers is possible too! Except you'll need to make a back sprite for every trainer



Stick with JavaScript, its a fun and really versatile language! For your question: there is no gender
Aww, no gender? *cries*

Off topic again: JavaScript doesn't feel like scripting, as compared to other languages I've been trying to learn (Ruby, Python, C++, among others) because the syntax seems to be near plain english as opposed to a bunch of commands that have confusing meanings lol.

My opinion of JavaScript is that when scripting it's not so much programming as it is talking to the computer in a way that both the processor and I can understand. It's easy, in my opinion. I guess that's the bottom line for me.

New question: (also off topic) Is the ASM language the same from GB to GBC? Also, does the GBA use the same ASM? Really confusing with a lot of that stuff, but I thought I'd ask so I could give more able suggestions for others.
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New question: (also off topic) Is the ASM language the same from GB to GBC? Also, does the GBA use the same ASM? Really confusing with a lot of that stuff, but I thought I'd ask so I could give more able suggestions for others.
This is getting a bit off topic. If you're really interested in learning gameboy assembly language, you might want to hop over to the forums at http://hax.iimarck.us!

To answer your questions, yes, the GB and GBC use the same processor (cpu), therefore the same assembly language. GBA uses a completely different processor, so the assembly language is a whole different story.
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Aww, no gender? *cries*

Off topic again: JavaScript doesn't feel like scripting, as compared to other languages I've been trying to learn (Ruby, Python, C++, among others) because the syntax seems to be near plain english as opposed to a bunch of commands that have confusing meanings lol.

My opinion of JavaScript is that when scripting it's not so much programming as it is talking to the computer in a way that both the processor and I can understand. It's easy, in my opinion. I guess that's the bottom line for me.

New question: (also off topic) Is the ASM language the same from GB to GBC? Also, does the GBA use the same ASM? Really confusing with a lot of that stuff, but I thought I'd ask so I could give more able suggestions for others.

Hahah oops, that last response got cut off. It was meant to say: there is no gender selection, but that doesn't mean you can't play as Jessie ;-)

Python is what you want if you want easy to understand commands! But the jump from there to a lower level language might be tough. Yep, GB and GBC use the same processor and language. GBA is different. Maybe similar to C++? I'm not sure.

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Whoa, really? I know that after you need to make trainers backsprites XD its normal... anyway you cant make a very short video of proof of concept of this, for pokemon crystal at least? Also leaving cpu trainers spirtes on down become glitchy, dont matter, i want only to see the player on top, better visual XD
Sorry, no proof of concept at the moment, but maybe you'll get to see it when you pay the game (I like the idea, maybe I'll throw it in)
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Hahah oops, that last response got cut off. It was meant to say: there is no gender selection, but that doesn't mean you can't play as Jessie ;-)

Python is what you want if you want easy to understand commands! But the jump from there to a lower level language might be tough. Yep, GB and GBC use the same processor and language. GBA is different. Maybe similar to C++? I'm not sure.



Sorry, no proof of concept at the moment, but maybe you'll get to see it when you pay the game (I like the idea, maybe I'll throw it in)
pay? o.O
Dont exist a tutorial to doing this, right?
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This is getting a bit off topic. If you're really interested in learning gameboy assembly language, you might want to hop over to the forums at http://hax.iimarck.us!

To answer your questions, yes, the GB and GBC use the same processor (cpu), therefore the same assembly language. GBA uses a completely different processor, so the assembly language is a whole different story.
Thanks for the explanation, and I'm not exactly interested in the GBA's language, just wanted to know if the same ASM could be used for when I'm suggesting features (so I can link to works from previous generation hacks that have such features)
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Hahah oops, that last response got cut off. It was meant to say: there is no gender selection, but that doesn't mean you can't play as Jessie ;-)

Python is what you want if you want easy to understand commands! But the jump from there to a lower level language might be tough. Yep, GB and GBC use the same processor and language. GBA is different. Maybe similar to C++? I'm not sure.
Python can't be used for what I'm trying to do (as far as I know) but I won't flood your thread with this topic anymore. Thanks for all the help and support, to both of you!

Ah, so it's character selection, not gender selection?
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Thanks for the explanation, and I'm not exactly interested in the GBA's language, just wanted to know if the same ASM could be used for when I'm suggesting features (so I can link to works from previous generation hacks that have such features)

Python can't be used for what I'm trying to do (as far as I know) but I won't flood your thread with this topic anymore. Thanks for all the help and support, to both of you!

Ah, so it's character selection, not gender selection?
Any time. I still recommend learning as much as you can about a programming language, and it will be easier to learn others.

Its not a character selection either! I don't want to reveal too much though ;)

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pay? o.O
Dont exist a tutorial to doing this, right?
I meant play lol. No tutorial exists that I know of, but you can look at the Pokered disassembly and see where the battle sprites get drawn, and just draw the front sprite for the player and players Pokemon and the back sprite for the enemy and enemy Pokemon. Then you just have to swap the animations so they like up with the correct sprite!
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Any time. I still recommend learning as much as you can about a programming language, and it will be easier to learn others.

Its not a character selection either! I don't want to reveal too much though ;)
So you are just keeping the door closed on this one, huh? Guess I'll just have to live with that xD

I'll keep your advice in mind as I move forward with my practice and scheduled courses. (free, interactive online tutorials, step by step instructions and interactivity with Codecademy :3)
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Any time. I still recommend learning as much as you can about a programming language, and it will be easier to learn others.

Its not a character selection either! I don't want to reveal too much though ;)


I meant play lol. No tutorial exists that I know of, but you can look at the Pokered disassembly and see where the battle sprites get drawn, and just draw the front sprite for the player and players Pokemon and the back sprite for the enemy and enemy Pokemon. Then you just have to swap the animations so they like up with the correct sprite!
Maybe you can really an optional patch, for who want your game with player on top, and if not, not apply the patch :) So this will be a very cool new idea for pokemon hack, and your become the first :) (thanks to my idea U.U), and if you will able to do, maybe can do also a patch for pokemon gold or crystal :D (i really love gen II style)
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Maybe you can really an optional patch, for who want your game with player on top, and if not, not apply the patch :) So this will be a very cool new idea for pokemon hack, and your become the first :) (thanks to my idea U.U), and if you will able to do, maybe can do also a patch for pokemon gold or crystal :D (i really love gen II style)
I wont be doing anything for crystal or an additional patch, but I might try some other things based on this idea! Thanks.

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So you are just keeping the door closed on this one, huh? Guess I'll just have to live with that xD

I'll keep your advice in mind as I move forward with my practice and scheduled courses. (free, interactive online tutorials, step by step instructions and interactivity with Codecademy :3)
Good luck! Yeah, I want to keep a lot of things as a surprise for the player
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Yet another thread I haven't looked at. God, I'm missing out on good stuff. I love those battle screens.
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I dont know if possible, but i think will be very cool if is possible to insert in pokemon hack, a Mario & Luigi RPG level system: i mean about the extra stats improvement, a wheel with numbers for selected stats... this will make a unique pokemon stats, and not all the same :)
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Yet another thread I haven't looked at. God, I'm missing out on good stuff. I love those battle screens.
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I dont know if possible, but i think will be very cool if is possible to insert in pokemon hack, a Mario & Luigi RPG level system: i mean about the extra stats improvement, a wheel with numbers for selected stats... this will make a unique pokemon stats, and not all the same :)
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Its also possible to hack the attack animation in pokemon red? (are a bit poor...)
Anyway this is what i mean, watch this video when Mario go level up, and take a "bonus" to increment stats:
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I say this if possible in hack rom will be very cool i think ^^
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Its also possible to hack the attack animation in pokemon red? (are a bit poor...)
Anyway this is what i mean, watch this video when Mario go level up, and take a "bonus" to increment stats:
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I say this if possible in hack rom will be very cool i think ^^
I will be adding in new animations, but not anytime soon since they are time consuming. I see what you mean about the bonus. It's an interesting idea but I'm not sure if I want to implement it. Sorry! Keep on providing me suggestions though!
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Yes, its good idea (like player on top side) but not forced for this hack rom; will be inserted in a future hacks, and makes unique :D
Meanwhile please you can ask to artist that make the pic of charizard vs mewtwo to make other pokemon sprites with his style? I really love this Charizard VS Mewtwo pic :D
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Sorry for the lack of updates. I've been working on a tool to help make editing the game using Pokered easier. It's still in the works, but I'm making significant progress there.

No progress game wise, unfortunately, but once I finish this tool things will get rolling again.
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And maybe in your tool is included a easy option to swap player and cpu positon in battle and you will post the tool here :D
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And maybe in your tool is included a easy option to swap player and cpu positon in battle and you will post the tool here :D
Hahah, unfortunately the tool just allows you to edit tables and other data sets in the game, it doesn't modify code or anything of the sort
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