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Unfortunately, no one can compare to Chansey/Blissey as a Wish abuser. The best next options are Vaporeon/Alomomola. But yes, Miltank would have been a great wish alternative. You could try Umbreon, both have the same HP, access to Heal Bell and are weak to fighting. Umbreon has a much better SpDef, though, but is a lot slower and cannot hit as hard as Miltank can.
I believe we had a conversation about Umbreon earlier in this thread but I will help you out. Sylveon has the same HP/SDef as Umbreon and can learn Heal Bell + Wish as well. Sylveon also has an offensive presence that Umbreon lacks. Umbreon is garbage, never use it.
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I believe we had a conversation about Umbreon earlier in this thread but I will help you out. Sylveon has the same HP/SDef as Umbreon and can learn Heal Bell + Wish as well. Sylveon also has an offensive presence that Umbreon lacks. Umbreon is garbage, never use it.
But Sylveon has a terrible defense stat. Physical attacks decimate Sylveon.

I suggested Umbreon as an alternative to Miltank because of the similarities they share. Almost identical defense stats, Umbreon's being a tad better, identical HP stats and access to support moves like Heal Bell. It also has the quality she wanted in Miltank, but that sadly it can't offer, Wish. It is a logical alternative.

I never said Umbreon was a great competitive pokemon nor that there weren't better options. Sylveon outclasses Umbreon in almost every role, yes. But it doesn't outclass Umbreon in being a physical wall, the role that Miltank plays. You can't replace a Miltank with a Sylveon.

Besides, Umbreon might be garbage in Smogon OU, but in UU it is a great pokemon and very common. VGC is also known to be unpredictable. I remember that a guy won a VGC regional tournament one or two years ago with a team that had Garbodor and Umbreon in it. Umbreon makes one of the best stallers in the meta game.

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A fair point. I was also thinking that the fact both Miltank and Umbreon are weak to fighting isn't a good thing. Fighting is one of the first coverage moves a Pokémon will go for if it has one available.

I've personally been testing out a Physically Defensive Sylveon and it works pretty well. Use a Bold Nature with 252 HP / 252 Def. Your mixed walling ability comes from Calm Mind boosting an already high SDef. Have Leftovers for passive recovery and the obvious support skills.

Sylveon is weak to Poison and Steel, more rare than Fighting. Also if you don't have access to Gen 5 move tutors for Pixilate Hyper Voice you use Cute Charm. While this may seem useless it actually helps against Physical Attackers you're trying to wall. I run into more Male Pokémon so using a Female Sylveon gives you a 30% chance to inflict Infatuation when they make contact with you.

The worst thing about Umbreon is the best you can do to stall out an attacker is Toxic. Foul Play is there and about the best thing Umbreon could ever wish for but you run into the same problem as with Hyper Voice Sylveon.

You simply need 5-6IV Eevee with the proper Nature in a Gen 5 game to tutor the proper moves. This may be hard to find so if you're really set on it, look into trades here. Remember that trading in Gen 5 will be shut down soon.
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A fair point. I was also thinking that the fact both Miltank and Umbreon are weak to fighting isn't a good thing. Fighting is one of the first coverage moves a Pokémon will go for if it has one available.

I've personally been testing out a Physically Defensive Sylveon and it works pretty well. Use a Bold Nature with 252 HP / 252 Def. Your mixed walling ability comes from Calm Mind boosting an already high SDef. Have Leftovers for passive recovery and the obvious support skills.

Sylveon is weak to Poison and Steel, more rare than Fighting. Also if you don't have access to Gen 5 move tutors for Pixilate Hyper Voice you use Cute Charm. While this may seem useless it actually helps against Physical Attackers you're trying to wall. I run into more Male Pokémon so using a Female Sylveon gives you a 30% chance to inflict Infatuation when they make contact with you.

The worst thing about Umbreon is the best you can do to stall out an attacker is Toxic. Foul Play is there and about the best thing Umbreon could ever wish for but you run into the same problem as with Hyper Voice Sylveon.

You simply need 5-6IV Eevee with the proper Nature in a Gen 5 game to tutor the proper moves. This may be hard to find so if you're really set on it, look into trades here. Remember that trading in Gen 5 will be shut down soon.

Well, most of us RNG'ers, and we are a lot, don't have a problem getting one. It shouldn't be very hard when looking in the correct places. I've done some trades for some of my Eevee with those characteristics. Trading in gen 5 will be shut down but poketransporter will still work, so it wont change the availability of gen 5 tutor moves.

Do you need a HA Hyper Voice Eevee? Flawless and either Modest, Timid or Bold.

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Actually yes I do lol. Not sure what you need, I haven't done anything but SR for Yveltal on Y recently. I think I've been at this for about 8 days. Got a 5IV missing Atk but neutral nature on my last reset.

I could use either Timid or Bold. Both are great for Sylveon.
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Send me a PM tomorrow night and we'll arrange a trade. I don't need anything for it. ^^


In another topic, can someone explain to me the mechanics of the light ball and pikachu? I know it doubles pikachu's attack and special attack, but how the hell does he reach 400 stats?!?!

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Send me a PM tomorrow night and we'll arrange a trade. I don't need anything for it. ^^


In another topic, can someone explain to me the mechanics of the light ball and pikachu? I know it doubles pikachu's attack and special attack, but how the hell does he reach 400 stats?!?!
Pikachu's overall stats is around 300, with Attack and Special Attack being 55 and 50 respectively. When it holds Light Ball, its offensive stats get doubled, apparently, which winds up bumping its stats to 405 in total. d:

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Pikachu's overall stats is around 300, with Attack and Special Attack being 55 and 50 respectively. When it holds Light Ball, its offensive stats get doubled, apparently, which winds up bumping its stats to 405 in total. d:
No, I mean, its Attack and Sp.Atk reach values of over 400. Pokemon with a base 100 in either stat reach 328 at max. So how does Pikachu reach those numbers? o.O

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No, I mean, its Attack and Sp.Atk reach values of over 400. Pokemon with a base 100 in either stat reach 328 at max. So how does Pikachu reach those numbers? o.O
Because Light Ball doubles the total stat, which includes IVs and EVs, and not the base stat.
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Because Light Ball doubles the total stat, which includes IVs and EVs, and not the base stat.
Ah, that explains it. That is overpowered to say the least, haha. 90 base speed is decent and with the light ball its Attack is higher than Haxorus and its SpAtk is higher than Chandelures. It won't be any good in the competitive metagame but using it in-game may be a lot of fun.

Actually, it may stand a chance in NU or RU.

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Ah, that explains it. That is overpowered to say the least, haha. 90 base speed is decent and with the light ball its Attack is higher than Haxorus and its SpAtk is higher than Chandelures. It won't be any good in the competitive metagame but using it in-game may be a lot of fun.

Actually, it may stand a chance in NU or RU.
Yeah, it can wreck face with Volt Tackle and proper support. I prefer support Raichu (Lightning Rod w/ Nuzzle, Encore, Fake Out etc).
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Caught this while horde hunting Nidoran today:

Nidoran F
Relaxed Nature, Rivalry
HP: 20-21
Atk: 31
Def: 14-15
SpA: 2-3
SpD: 26-27
Spe: 28-31

Was going for M. Just my luck that the only female in the horde would be the shiny, lol. Still a shiny and at least they made Nidoqueen look better in gen 6!

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If only Light Ball worked with Raichu... though, it would wind up turning this Pokémon overpowered, but to prevent that, maybe they could make the item have different effect on Raichu. Instead of doubling its stats, perhaps it could give it only a quarter boost or something? xD" Also, congrats on the shiny, Sage!
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Caught this while horde hunting Nidoran today:

Nidoran F
Relaxed Nature, Rivalry
HP: 20-21
Atk: 31
Def: 14-15
SpA: 2-3
SpD: 26-27
Spe: 28-31

Was going for M. Just my luck that the only female in the horde would be the shiny, lol. Still a shiny and at least they made Nidoqueen look better in gen 6!
I've noticed that it seems whenever a Shiny pops up in a Horde it never has the HA. At least I haven't seen one. It's disappointing really.
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Oh Yveltal wants to help me huh? WHY ISN'T IT THE WAY I WANT IT THEN!?

I'm breaking down. My motivation is so low. I just want to finish the game, work on my Pokédex again and FINALLY start breeding again. Stupid Yveltal, makes me so mad.

After all this work I might as well share it. I'll have someone here clone it and spread the glory to the regulars here.
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Aeroblast got all Shiny Vivillon. I do have a full Vivillon collection but it's not great. The best I have is all Safari Females in Premier, a few Horde Females in Premier.

I've traded all my bred Shiny. I don't actually have much to show for all my wasted hours lol. I mostly have Pokémon ready to breed. Can't do it yet though.
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Hahaha! My shiny Murkrow is Gentle with super luck. XD HOW BAD
Of course, of course. u_u" I have a shiny Murkrow in Black 2, but its nature is Timid, which's terrible for a Pokémon like this. Not sure if I should even bother transferring, haha.
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I finally got my Trade Reviews up to Beginner. I'll be advanced eventually, I swear it!
Don't get your hopes up, I was Advanced like 18 years ago trades wise but people stopped leaving reviews or never left then in the first place lol. If you check most of my reviews came from when the reviews were new and later reviews are from trade regulars. The ransoms don't leave much.
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Aeroblast got all Shiny Vivillon. I do have a full Vivillon collection but it's not great. The best I have is all Safari Females in Premier, a few Horde Females in Premier.

I've traded all my bred Shiny. I don't actually have much to show for all my wasted hours lol. I mostly have Pokémon ready to breed. Can't do it yet though.
I can't keep up with who is who so I just think of you as all one person. If you have Powersaves use that for breeding. Makes life much easier.

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Am I the only one here who DOESN'T have Powersaves or understand its purpose?
You can back up saves and edit the saves. You can also check the IVs and SVs of any Pokemon. It is not an AR since there's no codes for you to enter and it doesn't directly change the game's coding.