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    Playing with Pokemon Showdown's damage calculator.. using a Gardevoir as a standin for AZ's Floette since they share the same Sp.Atk stat at modest. and using Psycho Boost (140 psychic) as a stand in for Floette's light of ruin.. against steelix (who resist fairy and psychic), Steelix with 252 EVs in HP, Gardevoir/Floette will take away 85% of it's health.. if it Crits Steelix, it will be a guaranteed OHKO at 128%

    considering that venusaur as slow as F**k and isn't as resistant as steelix.. it shouldn't take a rocket scientist to know that it will die..

    Feel free to play around with the calculator yourself http://pokemonshowdown.com/damagecalc/
    Nah I don't use calculators, BC its bs in ranked battles, your expecting to do something and can ruin your whole game plan and take a loss, revenge kills, type weakening Berry's, battle items like assault vest and life orb.. those calculators are unreliable, I just hit hard and fast on ranked battles, sometimes I set up sweepers though and rarely do I wall infect but I do sometimes.
    Any who... m venusaur may be slow... I still don't see floette one shotting it, 125 is okay sp.atk. its not team stopping however, I do see eternal flower floette being a beast, I'm not arguing that it can't be, I just think it would need a good set up to become a beast, its physical defense leaves it open to so much, I mean moves its not even weak against could ohko it
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      Nah I don't use calculators, BC its bs in ranked battles, your expecting to do something and can ruin your whole game plan and take a loss, revenge kills, type weakening Berry's, battle items like assault vest and life orb.. those calculators are unreliable, I just hit hard and fast on ranked battles, sometimes I set up sweepers though and rarely do I wall infect but I do sometimes.
      Any who... m venusaur may be slow... I still don't see floette one shotting it, 125 is okay sp.atk. its not team stopping however, I do see eternal flower floette being a beast, I'm not arguing that it can't be, I just think it would need a good set up to become a beast, its physical defense leaves it open to so much, I mean moves its not even weak against could ohko it
      I dont think AZ's floette is suppose to be the type of pokemon who survives throughout a fight.. especially cause of it's move.. when it one shots someone.. the Recoil is nasty.. more than 1/2 health loss.. it's more of a One/Two-Hit Wonder pokemon.. made to simply take out or heavily damage your opponents pokemon before going down for the count..

      I personally save floette for my opponent's pokemon who I know my team will have a hard time taking out.. for example, my last battle, my opponent had a Snorlax, i had no fighting moves available on the particular team i took in.. so i opted to switch out to floette :D snorlax stockpiled, next turn floette hit it, knocked it all the way to red.. I guess I scared/surprised my opponent because for whatever reason, they switched out their mewtwo and mewtwo got one shot by light of ruin and floette died. so not only did i mess up one of their pokemon who my team would of had a hard time against.. but by the glory of Arceus.. they sent out mewtwo, the 2nd pokemon who my team can't deal with efficiently xD!

      Atm i'm messing around with a talonflame, blastoise, bidoof, smeargle, diancie, and floette as my team, cant deal with much efficiently xD.
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        I dont think AZ's floette is suppose to be the type of pokemon who survives throughout a fight.. especially cause of it's move.. when it one shots someone.. the Recoil is nasty.. more than 1/2 health loss.. it's more of a One/Two-Hit Wonder pokemon.. made to simply take out or heavily damage your opponents pokemon before going down for the count..

        I personally save floette for my opponent's pokemon who I know my team will have a hard time taking out.. for example, my last battle, my opponent had a Snorlax, i had no fighting moves available on the particular team i took in.. so i opted to switch out to floette :D snorlax stockpiled, next turn floette hit it, knocked it all the way to red.. I guess I scared/surprised my opponent because for whatever reason, they switched out their mewtwo and mewtwo got one shot by light of ruin and floette died. so not only did i mess up one of their pokemon who my team would of had a hard time against.. but by the glory of Arceus.. they sent out mewtwo, the 2nd pokemon who my team can't deal with efficiently xD!

        Atm i'm messing around with a talonflame, blastoise, bidoof, smeargle, diancie, and floette as my team, cant deal with much efficiently xD.
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        I was running Latios, cresselia, M gengar rank battles online but I need a replacement for Latios and haven't put much thought to it... I need someone to snuff put sucker punchers... hey floette could be that lol
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          I'm tearing super singles apart right now with :
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          M gengar/ Timid/ : dazzling gleam/ sludge bomb/ shadow ball/ energy ball @ gengarite
          I was running Latios, cresselia, M gengar rank battles online but I need a replacement for Latios and haven't put much thought to it... I need someone to snuff put sucker punchers... hey floette could be that lol
          Use Mewtwo X.... or a nice full speedy full atk mienshao to fake them out then u-turn on them.

          anyways this is getting too off topic, isn't really a battle talk thread, this is a Floette reveal/spoiler thread. probably want to take that to the battle strategy threads here on PC.
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            Use Mewtwo X.... or a nice full speedy full atk mienshao to fake them out then u-turn on them.

            anyways this is getting too off topic, isn't really a battle talk thread, this is a Floette reveal/spoiler thread. probably want to take that to the battle strategy threads here on PC.
            Yea I really didn't consider floette I just threw that in to try to stay smidge on topic, but I don't use legends either, if they can't go in battle facility I try not use it. Can floette go in battle maison?
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              Can floette go in battle maison?

              you know that's a good question o.o even diancie... i am gonna go try both right now o.o

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              Diancie is banned, but Floette isn't xD!!!
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                You know what i wonder now? if you make a Smeargle sketch Diamond Storm or Light Of Ruin can it still be traded online?
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                  You know what i wonder now? if you make a Smeargle sketch Diamond Storm or Light Of Ruin can it still be traded online?
                  that's an idea O:!

                  I haven't thought of that xD!! but i dont think smeargle would be a good user of those moves.. he's slower than floette xD and diamond storm isn't that useful in my opinion. but i'll try it out nonetheless. If it works, i'll report back :D!
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                    that's an idea O:!

                    I haven't thought of that xD!! but i dont think smeargle would be a good user of those moves.. he's slower than floette xD and diamond storm isn't that useful in my opinion. but i'll try it out nonetheless. If it works, i'll report back :D!
                    I asked because i was just wondering (and because i'd like a Smeargle with these moves but that isn't important xD)
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                      I want this Pokemon to come out so bad! Tempted to just hack one and keep it in game to do the Battle Maison with and stuff until it's actually released.
                      Personally, I doubt it will be given out. Instead, I think that it will be something that we battle in the next games but can't catch, like White/Black Kyruem. My reasons for this are:
                      If the signature move is banned then what's the point in having the Pokemon? Also, it is heavily linked to the story of the games, so it makes it more likely that this is what it is what it is for.
                      It can't evolve. The reason it may not evolve is because the evolved form would never be seen without hacking, thus giving it an evolution pretty useless.
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                        If the signature move is banned then what's the point in having the Pokemon?

                        The reason it may not evolve is because the evolved form would never be seen without hacking, thus giving it an evolution pretty useless.
                        It's move is not banned.. well, only temporary.. it shows as banned because it's not released yet.. Diancie shows the same too for it's move Diamond Storm, but we all know that Diancie is being released soon.

                        Gamefreak just has filters/banlist/or whatever it is on the battle spot to prevent you from taking yet to be released items into battle or trade. but once they are released, that block will be removed.

                        As for evolution, AZ's Floette isn't suppose to evolve.. it's suppose to represent the Max Potential of a Floette after 3000 years. that is why it's HP is just slightly under a Floette's to show that in 3000 years it reached it's max potential for a floette.
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                          It's move is not banned.. well, only temporary.. it shows as banned because it's not released yet.. Diancie shows the same too for it's move Diamond Storm, but we all know that Diancie is being released soon.

                          Gamefreak just has filters/banlist/or whatever it is on the battle spot to prevent you from taking yet to be released items into battle or trade. but once they are released, that block will be removed.
                          I'm kind of thinking that it might not be though. What if it tries to register it as a normal Floette? If it does it this way, then it will ban it because it has improper stats and a move that it doesn't normally learn.
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                            I'm kind of thinking that it might not be though. What if it tries to register it as a normal Floette? If it does it this way, then it will ban it because it has improper stats and a move that it doesn't normally learn.
                            That is false due to I can teach smeargle diancie's move or Floette's and it can't enter.

                            The point is simply, Game Freak aren't morons.. they know hackers will unlock pokemon and items they aren't suppose to have yet (like they have done so in every generation/game prior).. so to stop these hackers from distributing pokemon months or years before official release.. they purposely put keywords or filters on the trade system to block them. Same goes with battlespot.. they put blocks to prevent those people from showing them off in online battle on the battle spot or using them in rating battles or whatever and having an advantage over someone before release.

                            Also this is evident with the Vs.Recorder which verifies that GameFreak has a block/filter list.. You can save a battle video using a floette or diancie or a mega latios/latias.. but if you attempt to publish it (upload it online), it will tell you, this video cannot be shared publicly and prevents it from being uploaded.


                            Also just a while ago, i tried teaching a smeargle diancie's move and then tried teaching another floette's and those smeargles cannot be traded anymore nor enter battlespot which shows that game freak has a filter/block list of sorts until they are officially released.
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                              That is false due to I can teach smeargle diancie's move or Floette's and it can't enter.

                              The point is simply, Game Freak aren't morons.. they know hackers will unlock pokemon and items they aren't suppose to have yet.. so to stop these hackers from distributing pokemon months or years before release.. they purposely put keywords or filters on the trade system to block them. same goes with battlespot.. they put blocks to prevent those people from showing them off in online battle on the battle spot or using them in rating battles or whatever and having an advantage over someone before release.

                              Also this is evident with the Vs.Recorder which verifies that GameFreak has a block/filter list.. You can save a battle video using a floette or diancie or a mega latios/latias.. but if you attempt to publish it (upload it online), it will tell you, this video cannot be shared publicly and prevents it from being uploaded.
                              Still, the fact that you can teach a Smeargle the move and it still can't enter doesn't really tell me anything. Like you said, the move is banned because it hasn't been released yet, but that doesn't actually confirm that it won't be banned when it is released.
                              On a slightly different note, I would be disappointed if it was an event. Personally, it wouldn't interest me to be able to get it, and if it isn't story involved, it does create some loop holes. (It's possible that AZ could give it to you, but he has been looking for that thing for 3000 years, I don't think that he will give it up that easily.
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                                Still, the fact that you can teach a Smeargle the move and it still can't enter doesn't really tell me anything. Like you said, the move is banned because it hasn't been released yet, but that doesn't actually confirm that it won't be banned when it is released.
                                On a slightly different note, I would be disappointed if it was an event. Personally, it wouldn't interest me to be able to get it, and if it isn't story involved, it does create some loop holes. (It's possible that AZ could give it to you, but he has been looking for that thing for 3000 years, I don't think that he will give it up that easily.
                                Game Freak will come up with a story.. AZ is 3000 years old.. so maybe he "has to go" maybe he's dying.. maybe he feels that Floette will do better under your care and get plenty of PC love in your possession

                                or simply it can be a dull and boring event legendary release like many in the past that don't need a back story.. similar to the additional Vivillon patterns, simply one day, Game Freak will announce a Wi-Fi event and be like, Here you go! like they did a ton in Black and White.. how we got all those random non-story/non-movie related Arceus', kyogres, victinis, mewtwos, etc etc..

                                also there's definately more movies in the works too so AZ's Floette and AZ himself could be a future movie, same as the other 2 Hidden Legendaries Hoopa and Volcanion. so then their release can be movie event related, the same as the initial darkrai and victini were, etc. just like Black and White had 4+ movies tied to it i'm sure X&Y will have plenty of movie tie-ins as well and with each movie, a new event legendary wi-fi event.
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                                  Game Freak will come up with a story.. AZ is 3000 years old.. so maybe he "has to go" maybe he's dying.. maybe he feels that Floette will do better under your care and get plenty of PC love in your possession

                                  or simply it can be a dull and boring event legendary release like many in the past that don't need a back story.. similar to the additional Vivillon patterns, simply one day, Game Freak will announce a Wi-Fi event and be like, Here you go! like they did a ton in Black and White.. how we got all those random non-story/non-movie related Arceus', kyogres, victinis, mewtwos, etc etc..

                                  also there's definately more movies in the works too so AZ's Floette and AZ himself could be a future movie, same as the other 2 Hidden Legendaries Hoopa and Volcanion. so then their release can be movie event related, the same as the initial darkrai and victini were, etc. just like Black and White had 4+ movies tied to it i'm sure X&Y will have plenty of movie tie-ins as well and with each movie, a new event legendary wi-fi event.
                                  Yeah . I can definitely see that happening, but I am still hoping that it is story related. If he does end up giving it to us, I don' think that I would even be able to take it thinking about how long he searched for it. XD
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                                    Still, the fact that you can teach a Smeargle the move and it still can't enter doesn't really tell me anything. Like you said, the move is banned because it hasn't been released yet, but that doesn't actually confirm that it won't be banned when it is released.
                                    On a slightly different note, I would be disappointed if it was an event. Personally, it wouldn't interest me to be able to get it, and if it isn't story involved, it does create some loop holes. (It's possible that AZ could give it to you, but he has been looking for that thing for 3000 years, I don't think that he will give it up that easily.
                                    This is my dilemma. At first I was gonna disagree about a link to another x&y instalment for distribution in comparison to black & white kyurem, BC they weren't even in b & w's coding, genesect, keldeo, and meloetta were though. Some people say the god stone was a coding for bw kyurem in bw but there is actually an extracted image for said stone which is nothing like the DNA splicers ( last I read, this is going maybe two years since I read )
                                    I was pushing strong against it not being distributed in the next instalment and that it would have to be in the x & y copies we have now because of it being coded, but then again, we didn't get none of the events for bw til bw2 ( might have gotten keldeo I think... not sure ) I know we didn't get meloetta til bw2.
                                    But that's not even my biggest issue with my original theory, the biggest hole puncher against my theory is ...
                                    Why on earth would AZ give it to you?
                                    So I'm thinking, he will probably pass away in the instalment if its in sequel format and pass it on to you BC you remind him of xy protag bla bla. Or if its a prequel, floette could be with you while AZ is searching for it. Of course this would all be in short story format due to it being event legendary status.
                                    Now if we get it in this game, in X & Y, I'm thinking AZ is gonna die.
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                                      This is my dilemma. At first I was gonna disagree about a link to another x&y instalment for distribution in comparison to black & white kyurem, BC they weren't even in b & w's coding, genesect, keldeo, and meloetta were though. Some people say the god stone was a coding for bw kyurem in bw but there is actually an extracted image for said stone which is nothing like the DNA splicers ( last I read, this is going maybe two years since I read )
                                      I was pushing strong against it not being distributed in the next instalment and that it would have to be in the x & y copies we have now because of it being coded, but then again, we didn't get none of the events for bw til bw2 ( might have gotten keldeo I think... not sure ) I know we didn't get meloetta til bw2.
                                      But that's not even my biggest issue with my original theory, the biggest hole puncher against my theory is ...
                                      Why on earth would AZ give it to you?
                                      So I'm thinking, he will probably pass away in the instalment if its in sequel format and pass it on to you BC you remind him of xy protag bla bla. Or if its a prequel, floette could be with you while AZ is searching for it. Of course this would all be in short story format due to it being event legendary status.
                                      Now if we get it in this game, in X & Y, I'm thinking AZ is gonna die.
                                      I've been thinking about prequels, and they do seem like a possibility to me. AZ's Floette does seem to come out of no where, and I would like to know where it was. He most likely will pass away though. Again, he won't give the Floette up that easily, so this is what will probably happen.
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                                        I've been thinking about prequels, and they do seem like a possibility to me. AZ's Floette does seem to come out of no where, and I would like to know where it was. He most likely will pass away though. Again, he won't give the Floette up that easily, so this is what will probably happen.
                                        I would like a prequel, because it would be fresh and new... we could also see things, like... terminus cave back when it was an active mining operation or something, the lost hotel in a less ruined state. Those things seem cool to me... I don't know though... I just cant see a man who spent 3000 years searching for a pokemon, getting it and just giving it away, and if so is he immortal from some side of side effect from the ultimate weapon? or is he tied to floette by some kind of bond that has kept him alive... who knows... I know it will be a interesting bit of story when we do get it
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                                          Cool, how did ya get AZ's floette? hacking?
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                                          Cool, how did ya get AZ's floette? hacking?
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                                            If AZ's Floette evolves, Will it be able to breed then? My guess is no. I'm also thinking that there will be a distribution or mystery gift for a item or something like that, and you trade that object for his Floette. This could be similar to the key to catch Diancie, Hoopa, and Volcanion as well.
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                                              If AZ's Floette evolves, Will it be able to breed then? My guess is no. I'm also thinking that there will be a distribution or mystery gift for a item or something like that, and you trade that object for his Floette. This could be similar to the key to catch Diancie, Hoopa, and Volcanion as well.
                                              It cant evolve and can't breed. it's basically a Legendary with legendary-like stats and it's own unique cry. just happens to share the same name/pokedex entry as a normal Floette.
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