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Old March 4th, 2005 (12:07 PM).
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Armaldo (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Battle Armor
EVs: 198 HP / 252 Atk / 60 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rapid Spin
- Rock Blast

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 176 Spd / 82 SAtk
Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
- Focus Punch
- Sludge Bomb
- Substitute
- Thunder

Kingdra (M) @ Liechi Berry
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 10 HP / 252 Atk / 60 Spd / 188 SAtk
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Agility
- Flail
- Hydro Pump
- Substitute

Medicham (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pure Power
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Fake Out
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Shadow Ball

Smeargle (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 4 HP / 176 Def / 252 Spd / 78 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Belly Drum
- Spore
- Substitute

Starmie @ Leftovers
Trait: Illuminate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Psychic
- Surf
- Thunderbolt



I need a SpAtk'er in place over Kingdra
it can't be weak to dark or psychic
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Old March 4th, 2005 (12:29 PM).
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Armaldo (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Battle Armor
EVs: 198 HP / 252 Atk / 60 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake Knock Off
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rapid Spin
- Rock Blast

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 176 Spd / 82 SAtk
Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
- Focus Punch
- Sludge Bomb
- Substitute
- Thunder

Bleg, not to fond of it, but it's your team. Oh methinks it needs more speed.

Kingdra (M) @ Liechi Berry
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 10 HP / 252 Atk / 60 Spd / 188 SAtk
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Agility
- Flail
- Hydro Pump
- Substitute

Give it DD > Agility.

Medicham (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pure Power
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Fake Out
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Shadow Ball

Fine, but choicecham > this thing.

Smeargle (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 4 HP / 176 Def / 252 Spd / 78 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Belly Drum
- Spore
- Substitute

Fine, old and boring.

Starmie @ Leftovers
Trait: Illuminate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Psychic
- Surf
- Thunderbolt

Fine. Maybe LIghscreen or recover.

I need a SpAtk'er in place over Kingdra
it can't be weak to dark or psychic.
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Old March 4th, 2005 (12:47 PM).
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IMO i have never seen anyone other than me use that smeargle set

DD is a good idea on Kindra but, I need to do it twice for the correct speed but then again the atk boost is needed.

Medicham doesn't have choice band cause its going to be passed stuff from smeargle so it makes up for the lost power from choice band with a +6 atk and the ability to choose its moves.

Gengar has 300 speed to out speed base 100 speed pokes
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Old March 4th, 2005 (8:40 PM).
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Gengar will only outspeed them if they don't have a +Speed nature.

Only "consider" Knock Off > EQ on Armaldo, he can make use of both, and with his nice attack stat, I'm thinking maybe keep Quake.

Your Gengar gets dominated by Venusaur, it's a unique set, but I see it losing to alot of pokemon - What's the good points of it?

Kingdra needs DD > Agility, or you could try this as an alternative, like a powerful mixed Kingdra

Kingdra @ Salac/Liechi
-Rain Dance
-Substitute
-Surf
-Flail

With Swift Swim, it'll get him his Speed Boost, and will power up Surf which takes care of the things that Flail doesn't.

Medicham is fine - He fairs very well from the Smeargle Boost.

That Smeargle set is the most common I've seen - It usually is used to power up an Arcanine's ES (Well thats what I've seen it used for).
Smeargle as a pokemon isn't that great, but if you can pull it off it works wonders.

I'm thinking, perhaps this for Starmie:

Starmie @ Leftovers
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Recover
-Thunder Wave or Toxic

It doesn't get STAB though, but who cares - It's the same set as a pokemon I'm using, except the pokemon I'm using does it MUCH better.

For Kingdras replacement consider trying the set I suggested for him instead of booting him out.
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Old March 5th, 2005 (2:50 AM).
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explosion > thunder on gengar. get rid of the sp.atk evs and ur set. to make up for the loss of an sp.atker, get blaziken or raichu to replace kingdra(both are subrevversl) or maggy if u want anti-skarm
btw whats the pkmn ur using lion?
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Old March 5th, 2005 (2:54 AM).
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The pokemon I'm using is a secret.

And Jaws you open your mouth and I'll murder you.

But the pokemon does NOT die unless you can hax him ^_^

Magneton would actually suit this team.
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Old March 5th, 2005 (3:49 AM).
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I wouldnt dream of telling them your secret pokemon. Why would I tell anyone that McGar is the best Skarmbliss counter?
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Old March 5th, 2005 (3:51 AM).
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Because he isn't.

Magneton with HP Fighting is.
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Old March 5th, 2005 (8:25 AM).
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Having two weak damage moves on Armaldo is very pointless. Its slow so you will end up knocking off one Pokemon before it faints from something with a strong Sp.Atk, so I say keep Earthquake so you have options.
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