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I don't mind it, but I think the transfer portion of it should be free. I understand that storing the data of Pokémon for millions can be costly, but transferring? I'm pretty sure that would only require temporary data storage, which could be cleared after every trade.

Also, it's frustrating having $4.00 already on my 3DS, just short of what I need. {XD}
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I don't mind it, but I think the transfer portion of it should be free. I understand that storing the data of Pokémon for millions can be costly, but transferring? I'm pretty sure that would only require temporary data storage, which could be cleared after every trade.

Also, it's frustrating having $4.00 already on my 3DS, just short of what I need. {XD}


It wouldn't be if they let you buy less than 10 dollars >.<
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We do have this if you need help transferring Pokemon but don't want to pay for it.

That said, I think that it being paid is just a necessary evil. Combining the transfer service into Bank was the easiest way to do it with gen 5 being DS games. I'm personally glad it isn't like Gen 2 to 3 where it was cut off entirely. And if Pokemon Bank weren't a paid service I would be constantly worried about it crashing and me losing all my Pokemon just sayin'.

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It wouldn't be if they let you buy less than 10 dollars >.<
There's an option when you pay to just buy the funds you need.
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Old April 2nd, 2014 (7:10 PM). Edited April 2nd, 2014 by Oblivion Wing.
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Some people like to take it to some extent hehe, honestly it's realy not that bad. Paying $5 for a server that gives me a year??
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I'd complain about it if I wasn't already spending 2$ a month just to talk about topics like this on this forum. It's a big convenience, you can get 6$ so easily. Don't complain.
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Although I'm willing to spend the $5/year for bank, I wish it weren't a subscription service. The price isn't a big issue, though I suppose it will add up over time, and I'll need to remember to pay the fee every year to keep my Pokémon. I seem to be breeding more Pokémon than ever before, and I hate releasing them, so I'm a little concerned that I'm going to use up my bank space too quickly. I don't think transferring should require payment, but since I already need to pay for bank to get the extra storage space and save myself the anxiety and tedium of constantly having to release Pokémon, I'm not going to waste too much time complaining about the cost.


The element that bothers me more than the price, though, is that bank relies on external servers. Personally, I would rather pay an extra $30-40 for a (larger) external storage device that I personally have control over. Given Nintendo's financial difficulties, and given Game Freak's poor response to the issues with bank, server load, etc., early on, I'm not convinced that this is a sustainable system. And even though we'll probably be given a heads up if bank needs to shut down for some reason, I'm not sure I'll have anywhere to move my thousands of Pokémon to. I would rather have a device that I can store somewhere that will still work when I pull it out a decade or two from now. I'm not convinced that Nintendo/Game Freak's idea of a "long-term" storage option will extend more than five years or so, and I want storage that I can rely on indefinitely. (I would also like games that would last indefinitely, or at least for a very long time, so I can use them with my lasting storage, but as I have no idea what the lifespan of a 3DS game is, I'll save that topic for another discussion.)
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...and I'll need to remember to pay the fee every year to keep my Pokémon...

...and given Game Freak's poor response to the issues with bank, server load, etc., early on, I'm not convinced that this is a sustainable system.
On the first part, it doesn't delete your pokemon outright and it will prompt you when it's time so remembering isn't really an issue imo.

As for the second, that was primarily an issue with how the eShop and Nintendo Network was tied into Pokemon Bank, not an issue with the Pokemon Bank server itself. They needed the time to fix it and they did so as soon as they could. It was frustrating, sure, but I wouldn't say they did a poor job.
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The only thing I'm annoyed by is the tax <(first time experiencing taxed purchase people)

Other than that, the need ot pay is not a big deal to me. I have some very valuable Pokemon and a (partly) whole Pokedex so the storage is convenient. I hope they allow transferring and withdrawing (not depositing) to be free just to satisfy the masses.
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I don't mind to pay for it (And it's cheap)
The server's also cost mony that's why they need to ask a fee for it.
And I'm happy they do, Now I'm sure I will keep my Pokemon, if it whas free the chanche is bigger that something can go wrong.
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You DO understand that when pokebank came out it had a 30 day FREE trial, meaning everyone who didn't want to pay never had to pay, right? And when the next gen comes out in a few years, even if there is no more free trial then, spending $5 to transfer hundreds of pokemon in one fell swoop rather than 6 per day, or 1 box at a time is STILL infintiely better because, AGAIN, it's $5. Spend $5 at Starbucks for something that's gone in 20 minutes, or spend $5 on something like Pokebank that will last you another 4 or 5 years. It's super obvious that pokebank is STILL a good investment
You do have a point in regards to the investment, but what about those who missed the free trial? Not everyone who plays Pokemon is a kid with a chock full of free time on their hands.

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and what are you talking about? "The springs get damaged due to this new methog of transferring pokemon"? You DO understand that poketransfer is a DIGITAL system, right? You're not actually physically transferring stuff. Swapping game cartridges has NOTHING to do with pokemon, poketransfer or ANYTHING along the lines. Swapping cartridges are what people do with all their consoles every single day. If the springs give out, it has NOTHING to do with these games as there is absolutely no difference between swapping Pokemon Black and Pokemon Y and swapping Super Mario 3D Land and Luigi's Mansion. Saying it's due to this new method of transfer is ridiculous and sounds like you're making stuff up to justify not wanting Pokebank!
Swapping cartridges does, actually. The springs I'm talking about is specifically with the 3DS game slot. PokeBank does not recognize your Gen5 games, so you actually need to eject the Gen5 cartridge you used during the PokeTransfer app with the Gen6 game for EVERY BOX OF POKEMON from the B/W games. So yes, you ARE switching cartridges constantly during the transfer process, sucks to those who have a lot of Pokemon to transfer. While I haven't found a specific article with the issue, I was reading on TV Tropes that their apparently has been some instances where the cartridge slot springs on the 3DS do get damaged with this constant switching, resulting in cartridges getting stuck or becoming unreadable. I was only asking if anyone else has heard of this, because thank god that didn't happen to my games.
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You DO understand that when pokebank came out it had a 30 day FREE trial, meaning everyone who didn't want to pay never had to pay, right? And when the next gen comes out in a few years, even if there is no more free trial then, spending $5 to transfer hundreds of pokemon in one fell swoop rather than 6 per day, or 1 box at a time is STILL infintiely better because, AGAIN, it's $5. Spend $5 at Starbucks for something that's gone in 20 minutes, or spend $5 on something like Pokebank that will last you another 4 or 5 years. It's super obvious that pokebank is STILL a good investment
Everyone? I didn't realize that everyone who was going to play Pokemon x/y already had it. This is the first and only Pokemon game I've bought near the release date, and the only one I've gotten any event Pokemon from because of that. It took me 3 years after the release of the console itself to finally buy it. Not everyone who will play already has a copy.

And even if it is a small amount, my point still stands that I'd rather save the $5 for something I need instead of dropping it on an app for a video game.
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My take on Pokemon Bank being a paid service: it is an international technology service Game Freak is providing for $5, which is pocket change. To everyone who complains, stop complaining. And to those saying they do not want to spend $5 on this service, consider the frivolous goods, services, and activities you regularly spend $5 on without complaining. That should put the issue in perspective. I apologize if I come across as harsh, but all the people whining about the $5 service fee exasperate me.
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My take on Pokemon Bank being a paid service: it is an international technology service Game Freak is providing for $5, which is pocket change. To everyone who complains, stop complaining. And to those saying they do not want to spend $5 on this service, consider the frivolous goods, services, and activities you regularly spend $5 on without complaining. That should put the issue in perspective. I apologize if I come across as harsh, but all the people whining about the $5 service fee exasperate me.
I spend five bucks on... Food, which is something I kind of need to survive.
Also, it's not the price that bothers me, it's the fact that I don't like being forced to pay for a feature, which I'm never going to fully utilize, just so that I can transfer content from an old game to a new one, especially considering the past transfer methods were completely free of charge, and the only money I had to spend was on the games themselves.

I've seen everyone's take on this, here, and I completely understand why Game Freak needs to charge to keep their server up and how five dollars a year isn't a lot, but that's not the point. The cost could be five cents and I still wouldn't like it.
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I spend five bucks on... Food, which is something I kind of need to survive.
Also, it's not the price that bothers me, it's the fact that I don't like being forced to pay for a feature, which I'm never going to fully utilize, just so that I can transfer content from an old game to a new one, especially considering the past transfer methods were completely free of charge, and the only money I had to spend was on the games themselves.

I've seen everyone's take on this, here, and I completely understand why Game Freak needs to charge to keep their server up and how five dollars a year isn't a lot, but that's not the point. The cost could be five cents and I still wouldn't like it.

I didn't know it was a service required for the game? xD

You don't have to get it if you don't want to. Doesn't change gameplay at all. It's an addition to the game.
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I didn't know it was a service required for the game? xD

You don't have to get it if you don't want to. Doesn't change gameplay at all. It's an addition to the game.
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My take on Pokemon Bank being a paid service: it is an international technology service Game Freak is providing for $5, which is pocket change. To everyone who complains, stop complaining. And to those saying they do not want to spend $5 on this service, consider the frivolous goods, services, and activities you regularly spend $5 on without complaining. That should put the issue in perspective. I apologize if I come across as harsh, but all the people whining about the $5 service fee exasperate me.
But what about the people who don't have the pocket change? The kids whose parents don't give them chore money or anything? Sounds like your passing judgement a bit too quickly. People want to transfer their old 'mons, which was previously free, but now it's leeched onto another service which costs (which I'm sure a lot of people won't use).
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People want to transfer their old 'mons, which was previously free, but now it's leeched onto another service which costs (which I'm sure a lot of people won't use).
Yeah, speaking of that, how many people actually need the option to store Pokemon elsewhere at all? Especially as many as 3,000 pokes? Who actually intends to use it for that and not just storing failed breeding projects for the pokemiles/BP?

I collect a lot of weird things, and I still have several empty boxes in my PC. The only reason I'm storing anything at all in the Bank is for the BP as long as I have it -- I have several boxes chock full of male Eevees I have no use for, and would have just released them all otherwise -- but thinking about it now, it feels like the purpose is more for collecting virtual currency by paying with real money. Or like that was their redeeming factor in paying for it.

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I understand that storing 3,000 pokemon should be a payed service, but not to simply transfer pokemon from one game to another, I'm not a big breeder/catcher, i'll probably never use Pokemon Bank other than to transfer my pokes, which is a one time thing.
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Pokemon Bank is meant to be something that's here for a long time. This isn't something that's going to go away when Gen 6 is over. The whole point of it is to make it easier to keep your collection in the future. Making it a separate service from the game was necessary. It's much easier for them to do transfers on a separate piece of software. For them to do it any other way would probably require 2 3DSs which would be much more expensive than the $5 per year they're asking for. Poketransporter needs a place to save your Pokemon while you switch carts, and Bank fits the bill. These are simply the facts. Sure, it would be nice to have another way to transport, and maybe they'll come up with something, but right now it needs the Bank.
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I don't mind it being a paid service, for the fact that you're using the internet to hold onto your Pokémon - it's basically extra storage. I myself think of it as DLC, but that's just me.
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To everyone talking about transferring for free, how on earth did you transfer previous generations for free?

Because I remember having to buy another ds to transfer my pokemon across games. I would really like to know how this is the "free" and preferable option. Seriously...
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To everyone talking about transferring for free, how on earth did you transfer previous generations for free?

Because I remember having to buy another ds to transfer my pokemon across games. I would really like to know how this is the "free" and preferable option. Seriously...
Exactly. If anything this is significantly cheaper than the previous method. I mean unless you had a good friend to help you, but I'm almost 23 and don't have any friends who still play.
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wow, so people complain about $5 PER YEAR as being horrible to store AND transfer pokemon (people keep forgetting it's not JUST to transfer pokemon from an old game to a new game) but when you start a new game you can get your old pokemon right away almost at the start of a new game. (so you can breed what you want and start a new game with what you bred)
I respect and understand your opinion, to certain point. Know i know 5 dollars aint much, but let me fill in a gap: Not everyone lives in a first world country now with that in mind let me explain to you how things work here in my country, if i were to buy pokebank sure the best idea would be to use a credit card right? no big deal. BUT WAIT oh you cant use local credit cards can you? noup only way could work would be a international credit card and pay additional fees just for that i say no thank you to that, whats my other option then? a e-shop card? COOL but oh wait... we dont have a official nintendo distributor shop, heck we barely got us a decent store where you could buy legit copies of games... now that to mention we do somehow manage to ship them here in our country, down side to it? well if you want to pay an extra 15 bucks for handling and shipping that takes us to a whooping $35 just to be able to get yourself "PokeBank" Perspective right? now including that let me tell you the trip just to get to that store would be around 10 bucks of gas. With $45 i might as well just buy another game...


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HOWEVER, $5 per year is just a horrible, horrible thing, and people would rather spend the money on a second DS or yet another remake in order to get pokemon not currently available? the $40 spent on a pokemon game pays for 8 YEARS of Pokebank. Just saying. Seriously, a large bag of chips is $4. Perspective! ;-)
5 dollars isn't that horrible no... believe me if it was that easy here on my country i would have the exact same opinion as you have. but sadly the only legit easy way here ain't no easy way... With the 8 years of pokemon bank yoy could buy. Here with my conditions i would only be able to buy one year. As i repeat i respect your opinion and by anymeans try to contradict it, not even the slightest chance of going against it no. But seriously dont forget that you and your country isnt the only one with access to the game, third world countries have that privilege too. Don't blame me for not having the easiness that you have to access pokebank i'm sure as hell that it isn't my fault to live here. Just putting you on another perspective and please PLEASE don't get me wrong with my reply i'm here to put the tails side of the quarter.

PD: The next time you get yourself a big bag of chips, think about me... that could mean a whole year of pokebank to me ;) Perspective...right?


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I might as well correct about the official Nintendo shop i mentioned. What i meant was Nintendo distributors shops AKA gamestop, wall-mart etc. You get the point. thanks
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I just skimmed this thread, here's my thoughts.

First, each generation so far (except G5) has had some kind of mass storage app, and you had to pay money for them too, unless you borrowed it from a buddy. You can't do that with Bank, so if you just want to get your old Pokémon on the new cartridge, you're shelling out.

But compare that to the previous generations. Gen 1 and 2 had the Stadium games, which you need an N64 and that transfer pak thing which is useless for anything that isn't Stadium or Mario Golf. Gen 3 had that utility that was only available in New York or something. Gen 4 had that WiiWare game which doesn't work with Platinum, HGSS, or Gen 5 and it won't even let you withdraw a Pokémon with a different ID number unless you use hacks. In other words, the money you burn just for storage/transfer gets worse every time.

Compared to that, $5 isn't much...though I really REALLY wish it were a more user-friendly app. Why in the world does it need to be two separate programs and why can I transfer Box 1, and ONLY Box 1, off the Gen 5 cart? Why does it only work with Gen 5? Why isn't there an item bank too? Why is GF still playing Big Brother when it comes to hacked Pokémon? (I've heard it's very picky about letting legit event Pokémon in) And the thing that bugs me the most...why doesn't the free Celebi have a fixed nature? Seriously, mine's ADAMANT. XD
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I agree with that €5,- isn't much but what i hate is that there lowest e-shop card here is €15,- and yea i could save it for 3 years so i would buy 3 years worth of pokébank but it's tempting if i still have €10,- left and then a new games come's out for digital copy and my reaction would be . hey i already have 10 euro on my system so i am gonna upgrade it so i can buy the game. And then next years come and need to upgrade 15 euro again :/.Even with creditcard the lowest amount is 10 euro,but in my country almost no one uses a creditcard here we use internet banking payments here and even though lots of international webshops have adapted to it. But google play stor e-shop and all those others haven't so i don't want to pay 15 euro for something that is 5 euro.
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