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I think Arceus arms are the unown, helping create the world as well as the some pokemon.
Except that there are only 30 variety of Unown, not 1000...

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Except that there are only 30 variety of Unown, not 1000...
The variety does not matter, have you seen the one pokemon movie with Entei kidnapping ash's mom and when Entei was creating the unown were there helping him, thousands of unown.
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The variety does not matter, have you seen the one pokemon movie with Entei kidnapping ash's mom and when Entei was creating the unown were there helping him, thousands of unown.
Actually, the Unown created Entei: Unown is the ONLY Pokémon which seems in the canon to have creative powers. Something like turning dreams into reality using their psychic powers: however, since "psychic" by definition is dealing with the mind, it's just as believable that all this "creating" being done is actually hallucinations of some kind.

Either way, there's no indisputable evidence that Arceus has any clear role whatsoever in all of this. The mythology may have a kernel of truth, but it's more believable to me that Unown is that kernel of truth in reality: the only thread of connection Arceus seems to have anywhere here is that it may be a trans-dimensional Pokémon, and thus has a trait in common with Unown (which also inhabit an alternate dimension).

On the variety/numbers thing: I was merely noting that it seems a bit of a stretch to say that Unown were the "thousand arms". Yes, there are thousands of Unown, but only 30 varieties: it seems like the number 1000 is rather specific, despite Unown having no connection at all to that number.

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http://www.rigelatin.net/copycat/theoryarceus.html

Here is a link to a theory explanation that i really like,it's a bit lengthy but its worth reading
Not too different from other hypotheses I've heard; I simply can't accept it. People place far too much significance on the Sinnoh region's mythology, I think. It is mythology after all: and it's quite clear to me that the rather irreligious guys over at Game Freak intentionally based Pokémon mythology on real mythology: namely, that they're probably 99% made-up fairy tales with a kernel of truth somewhere deep down.

And incidentally, as for where I think Mew fits into all this, I have a rather lengthy discussion of it on my blog, Pokémonography: which there's a link for in my signature, if anyone's interested. (The article is the first post I made on the blog, so just scroll to the bottom.)

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Not too different from other hypotheses I've heard; I simply can't accept it. People place far too much significance on the Sinnoh region's mythology, I think. It is mythology after all: and it's quite clear to me that the rather irreligious guys over at Game Freak intentionally based Pokémon mythology on real mythology: namely, that they're probably 99% made-up fairy tales with a kernel of truth somewhere deep down.

And incidentally, as for where I think Mew fits into all this, I have a rather lengthy discussion of it on my blog, Pokémonography: which there's a link for in my signature, if anyone's interested. (The article is the first post I made on the blog, so just scroll to the bottom.)
I liked your post because of your blog, though I disagree with your theory. First the theory the Arceus created by himself is not valid, the theory that unown helped Arceus is what I think. Here is a great theory by Tao Dragon that I'm with
Spoiler:

It seems likely that Arceus and the Unown worked together to create the universe since both have all types and have creative powers. I used the shinjo event to give this theory some backbone. It is very likely that from their dimension Unown are influencing in the events that happen in the universe. However in the beginning of times there were no dimension so the void was their home. This is just me thinking that their movements and syncronization of energies could have created many simultainous realities and since they changed order some realities collapsed and others formed. Well from here on out I don't know how to put it. But the excesive movement and collapsing of realities created chaos and from this energy came forth Arceus. A way in which Unown can better organize themselves. The chaotic energies composed of many elements could also explain why Arceus is so powerful and has all types. But Arceus is more organized and does things using patterns to organize the chaos that the Unown have created preventing more collapses and for reality to be organize in dimensions. Space and Time serve as filtters of chaos where time allows for one reality or event to happen at any given time and space allowing for realities to have a place in which those can exist in different locations. Afterwards it created spirit so there could be experience of existence. From there probably Arceus created everthing else in the pokeverse as we know it. It probably created matter next using the power of its plates. It unleashed energy of all types to create matter. At the same time it created Giratina who would organize the matter through anti-matter which is deeply connected to matter. From it's dimension of anti-matter it guards the balance of both matter and anti-matter. How Arceus created Mew I cannot tell if it was deliberate or a consequence of the energies released onto the universe. I also have one theory that the power of plates can create other pokemon depending on the combinations of energies and patterns it uses. So it must have created certain pokemon to begin life with and others to organize the worlds that existed within the universe. After the final tasks were done the only thing that was left to do was for beings within the universe to experience matter with their spirits. In a sense the Unown created chaos which is every possible reality and Arceus divided it into layers. The final layer being the material universe. From there Arceus may have passed on the task to work with matter to other pokemon of it's creation. I believe that after the creation of space and time onward Unown make patterns in a way that is like writting a story. That in turn affects the universe. This story is not official but it seems likely to me. So there are five dimensions: chaos the dimension in which the unown live in, space and time that gives order to the realities within chaos, the world of anti-matter that gives structure to matter and finally the pokeverse where pokemon currently live in also where Arceus resides in it's center point. There is also an inner realm with in matter called the spirit realm created by the three spirits for all beings to be able to experience.

Answer: Did Arceus and the Unown created Mew? Probably. Judging by it's design it looks like it was intelligently made to contain all species in one body. How Mew gave birth to others is unkown. We still haven't seen it in action.


Nice blog btw!!
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I liked your post because of your blog, though I disagree with your theory. First the theory the Arceus created by himself is not valid, the theory that unown helped Arceus is what I think. Here is a great theory by Tao Dragon that I'm with
Spoiler:




Nice blog btw!!
Thank you :pink_smile:

I disagree with yours/Tao Dragon's hypothesis, on the simple basis of over-speculation. Not enough actual evidence, too much speculation for me. But to each their own.

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Personally my self I agree that there is much speculation in my theory and that is what I do. I speculate and suggest how things might have happened. I don't just say that I thought this up found a few patches of evidence and there for this is how it is. I'm the speculative type yes. But don't say outflat that I don't have evidence to back up my theory because there are many sources including the anime, the movies and in-game events that made me conjecture that things happen that way.

For example there is the movie spell of the unown where it has been explicitly told and seen that the Unown are able to create using configurations and patterns to create realities using their psychic powers in conjuction. They have been shown to lose control over what they create when they lose stability and break havoc. Of course those were a few Unowns in the movie but Unowns are known to be numerous as seen in the movie of darkrai. So imagine that happening in a grander scale. Chaos happens.

Now you might be right that i don't have definative evidence to back up that the Unown made Arceus. That is a what if scenario. It ocurred to me that it might be that way judging from the shinjo event where Arceus summoned the Unown to create one of the creation trio. Now imagine that happening when there was chaos. The birth of time and space would give order to that chaos. Now since in Sinnoh mythology it has been said that Arceus was born in chaos what exactly caused that chaos? And why does Arceus needs the Unown's help if it can create by itself? Or can it? There is no details on when and how the Unown came to be. It is true that Arceus could have created the Unown but then, that means that it created first the Unown to then create Dialga and Palkia to establish a reality? Where does it say that in the Sinnoh myth? And why are the Unown helping in the creation process of Arceus? I would also like for you to note that the person in charge of the investigations in ruins of alphs hints that Arceus and the Unown are connected somehow. Again where did all that chaos come from then? Wouldn't it be more logical if the Unown where generating to much energy and created chaos and from that energy a condensation ocurred resulting in Arceus? It already happened in a movie only that the quantity of Unown were not enough to create all possible realities that would crash when they lose control resulting in chaos and there for Arceus to be generated. They created pokemon in the realities they generated so why can't they do the same with Arceus? Again take the number of Unowns in consideration. Probably if you disrrupt the patterns that the Unown are making in their dimension would cause disrruptions in reality. And if all Unown where to be separated from each other reality would cease to be including Arceus like what happened to the pokemon in the Unown movie. Since the Unown were tapping in Molly's consciousness the realities generated where the things that were in her dreams. Arceus works in a similar way to Molly organizing the Unown to establish a reality using their conjoined powers to create the creation trio and possibly spirit. After that it has been stated in the movies and in game what functions do the creation trio make so I take that as my evidence.

Another thing that can be questioned is if Arceus created other legendaries other than the crearion trio. Since it has been said that Arceus created the universe it may have created other legendaries on purpose or let the energies it unleashed onto the universe to randomly form other pokemon meaning they formed by nature which also derives from Arceus power. So directly or indirectly Arceus must have influenced in the creation of the first life forms whom will inhabit the universe. It is possible that from there the rest of the work has been done by those life forms like the likes of Mew.

So again you don't have to believe a word i'm saying just don't say I don't have actual evidence when only two points in my theory are questionable:

1.Unown's pychic power generated Arceus

2. Arceus created other legendaries outside the two set of trio it's in charge of.

Which I brought various points in the above paragraphs on how those might be.

I checked today and yes there are people who have similar theories to me but they differ. The Shinjo event is what makes us conclude that there is a connection between Arceus and the Unown and the fact that they appear in the outter dimensions in darkrai movie where palkia and dialga started fighting which is outside the universe where Unown would be chaining reality. However Arceus created the universe so why would Unown be chaining realities? Again from the 3rd movie spell of the Unown. They create realities. Just hear profesor oaks quotes and molly's dad's research. I'm just saying that it might be a possibility that the creation process was caused by both Arceus and the Unown. Where the Unown use Arceus as a medium to organize and stabilize all of the realities they generate.
I can see evidence that Unown may have had some hand in the creation of Pokémon (possibly: there frankly isn't any solid evidence there, other than the fact that it seems they would have been capable of doing it), though I still have to say that all this Sinnoh mythology with Arceus creating other legendaries and such just isn't compelling to me. The evidence of Arceus creating anything is debatable, as are the powers of the other Sinnoh mythic figures (Dialga, Palkia, etc.).

Unown is the only known Pokémon which canon sources (canon meaning the authoritative sources: i.e., the main series games, and to a lesser extent the manga and anime, and to an even lesser extent the movies (except possibly the first four)) seem to indicate are capable of creative powers. I do think all of the things labeled very clearly as mythology in the canon are labeled that way for a reason. I simply can't rationalize any history of the Pokémon world that involves anything terribly fantastical/magical/mythical; that's simply the way my brain works, haha :pink_laugh:

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Interesting hypothesis. It is innovative however there is one thing, actually, two things that I question about your hypothesis.

1) How is it that the egg groups will merge to end in Mew? if there are no known cases of hybridization between species of pokemon. If two pokemon of different species that are in the same egg group procreate the offspring will always result in the species of the mother while inheriting the moves from the father that the offspring's species are able to learn according to what it is biologically possible for that species to learn. I'm very interested to know how you will answer this question.

Note: Ditto is only able to procreate the other species not hybridize.
Essentially the concept is about very gradual hybridization. Imagine, if you will, any given Pokémon mating with Ditto, and the offspring thereof: Ditto is capable of reorganizing its cellular structure at will (I propose this is only possible if, like Mew, its cells contain the DNA of literally all Pokémon), and it follows that its cells would (in some form at least) be passed on to future generations. Excessive use of Ditto in Pokémon breeding would presumably lead to Pokémon (after many, many generations) having increased quantities of Ditto/Mew DNA. After all: the offspring of a Ditto isn't merely a clone of the other parent, therefore some new genetic material has been added by Ditto (this is likely especially true in cases where Ditto acts as the mother).

I actually elaborate more on my blog, Pokémonography, than I do in my original article here on PokéCommunity. There's an article on my Mew theory, as well as on my theory on Pokémon reproduction.


2) For Ditto and Mew to exist as you explained one of them must have existed without the others help. Ditto cannot give birth to Mew for Mew to time travel and give birth to Ditto. Because if you look at it Mew didn't exist in the first place according to your hypothesis it is the common descendant of all species. They must have come into existence on their own. Meaning in a way Ditto must have come to existence on its own to give birth to Mew. Then probably Mew being able to time travel met Ditto which already was. The way you mentioned it is paradoxical and doesn't make sense. It doesn't seem like a plausable hypothesis to me nor likely that it happened. However if there is something to clarify do tell.

Also another thing how did Mew acquired the powers of pokemon like Celebi and Dialga? If those pokemon cannot breed. There for how did it time traveled? And how was it possible for Ditto to pass on all of those traits to Mew. Last time I checked Ditto was only able to make an offspring of the species it procreates with. It does not retain the genes of that species in it's body. There for it cannot take from here an here to make an hybrid on it's own.
I elaborate a bit on this point on my blog: in a nutshell, I theorize that perhaps Ditto and Mew represent two sides of a temporal loop. Meaning that one cannot exist without the other; their existences are intrinsically linked, and are contingent on the existence of the other. They are, in a sense, the same being. A temporal loop, as confusing as it is, is not a paradox (though it can appear to be one at first glance).

Also, I believe that "legendary" Pokémon do, in fact, breed: that much is clear by their continued existence (I mean, it's simply illogical to presume that only a single individual of those species exists in the world). The simply don't breed in captivity: non-legendary species such as Nidoqueen share a similar behavior. Many real-world species, such as echidnas and pandas, display radically different mating behaviors in captivity than in the wild (namely: a complete refusal to breed).

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Well thought. Interesting enough. I'll give you a point where legendaries can breed. There is also evidence of that in the anime (Lugia and child).

Hm. So what you are saying is that Ditto descendants inherit genetic material from Ditt
Yes, I think it can be safely assumed.

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Well thought. Interesting enough. I'll give you a point where legendaries can breed. There is also evidence of that in the anime (Lugia and child).

Hm. So what you are saying is that Ditto descendants inherit genetic material from Ditto who is capable of mating with any pokemon and transform and each succesive generation becomes closer to Ditto in its ability to reproduce with any pokemon and transform... Meaning they can mate with each other and also be able to take on different forms while being of one given species. Those species will then become more common mating with the species that have not mated with Ditto and other that already have until Mew results. That answers the merging of egg groups. Eventually it doesn't matter what species you are you can take on the another species form. This will make those species closer to what Mew is. Eventually all species will culminate into Mew. The master race. The combination of all species through Ditto. Could you please explain how Mew fragmented again into other species and how does time travel has to do with that. This is the confusing part because ok we have the merging of species. Now what was that point in time where it time traveled to fragment into all other species?
That's very close to what my theory is, yes. As for how Mew fragments into other species, I don't think that's what happened. All we're told definitively in canon about Mew is that it contains the genetic material of every species of Pokémon: experts then speculate that perhaps it is the common ancestor of all Pokémon. I don't believe that it is. I think that the evidence is more conducive to a common descendant. So Mew is essentially a hybrid super-Pokémon in some sense, rather than an ancestral origin Pokémon; that's my theory anyway. So Mew "re-fragmenting" isn't part of my concept.

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Essentially, yes, my theory is just a explanation for Mew's existence, pieced together from the clues the canon has given us. And say what you will about temporal loops, they're perfectly logically consistent and possible within quantum mechanics and advanced physics. You basically answered your own question with the reference to multiple universes and such; basically, not precisely. A temporal loop in this instance would require for Mew and Ditto to have come into existence simultaneously, in different times; since Mew has the ability to traverse time at will however, it technically exists (or has the quantum potential to exist) at any point in time.

It's rather complicated, but essentially, Mew being timeless is not equivalent to being eternal: it exists throughout the history (past, present, and future) of the Pokémon universe, however that does not mean that it lacks causality. However, though Mew is timeless and therefore its relation to time as we understand it is very radically different from what we experience, it remains perfectly reasonable to suggest that its causality can be traced to a point within the temporal dimension as we know it. It's not easy for a human mind to comprehend, but it is physically possible for something which is timeless to have originated as something which was within time. And from there it's entirely possible that it could have essentially "created itself" (i.e., ensured its own existence by forming a temporal loop, rather than perhaps diverging and passing into a parallel dimension or universe). It's actually a fairly simple and elegant concept, hard as it is to actually grasp. A cyclical causality: Mew exists and travels through time to be scientifically studied so that Ditto could be created so that it could cause Pokémon to hybridize so that Mew could exist and travel through time, etc., etc.

Your quandary essentially seems to be with the problem of "which came first": however the concept of a temporal loop/cyclical causality eliminates the need to answer such as question, since both "ends" of the loop (Mew and Ditto) exist simultaneously. Hope that clarifies a bit, but again, it's a very complex concept. However, it is likely one that the folks at Game Freak may have actually come up with: there are hints related to time, and to cyclical time, throughout the canon. Just because the concept is rather convoluted and difficult to understand doesn't mean that they may not have intended it that way: frankly, the concept's complexity only gives them a reason not to describe it in great detail (would you really expect children to understand something as complicated as this? they were the original intended audience, after all). Pokémon includes many complex subjects (war, reproduction, technology, etc.), but for many of them, they keep the details to a minimum in the canon: presumably for the sake of the kids, who might shy away from a game that included lengthy tracts of complicated or educational material.

Anyway, you know my theory. I don't think it's too complicated to be true, and I think the evidence ultimately leads in that direction. But to each their own of course.

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This inspired me to write this:

You don't have to read the whole thing, just the beginning if you wanna know my theory about Mew & Arceus. http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=323136

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I guess it's better to leave this argument where it is. I had fun discussing with you. I hope I didn't cause any hard feeling at the other side. I want you to know that you have an unique way of thinking and you have the ability to reach other places where others cannot think of.

Personally I still believe that Arceus through the Unown created the three creation dragons and the three spirits who in turn made physical and spiritual maifestations take place. I believe that Arceus may have had some hand with the creation of certain legendaries including Mew and that Mew helped create the more common pokemon. That is my interpretation of what is cannonically suggested.

Your ways and mine of thinking work differently so we rationalize differently. So it's better to leave it here since we don't seem to convince each other.
Thank you :pink_smile: Yes, I think this debate has essentially reached an impasse. We don't necessarily have to agree anyway; I think Game Freak wants the fans to interpret their canon in different ways, frankly. They've left it intentionally vague. To each their own.

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I think that Nintendo just created a giant plot hole lol

The variety does not matter, have you seen the one pokemon movie with Entei kidnapping ash's mom and when Entei was creating the unown were there helping him, thousands of unown.
Yes that may be true but there are are 30 "letter" variations of unown you got it half right
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Since Arceus is the pokemon god he created mew first then the rest. Mew is the ancestor of pokemon because he was the first created by Arceus.
I always wondered this but this quote actually makes sense to me. Without trying to get too much into it, I think this is what I'm personally going with. xD


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Yes that may be true but there are are 30 "letter" variations of unown you got it half right
Actually there are only 28 variations and I was replying to this:

Except that there are only 30 variety of Unown, not 1000...
I was saying Unown were Arceus "thousand arms", helping him create the universe.
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Actually there are only 28 variations and I was replying to this:



I was saying Unown were Arceus "thousand arms", helping him create the universe.
Good point guess I learned something today :3
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So, I've been thinking about the contradiction present in Arceus or Mew being the first Pokemon. So, I think I've come up with a theory that satisfies both of the explanations of how Pokemon and their world came to be.

-Arceus is hatched and possibly creates the universe

-Arceus then creates one of two Pokemon groups;
Either Palkia, Dialga, and possibly Giratina, then Azelf, Uxie, and Mesprit. This is the case if Dialga, Palkia and the lake trio are the creators of space, time, and willpower, knowledge, and emotion.

If they merely control these things, then they more likely came after Mew, because Mew is believed to be ancestor of all Pokemon. So, Mew would be created and used as a basis for all Pokemon, including all Legendaries. So, many Mews are then made.

-The Pokemon world is then either created by Arceus, or is already existing and chosen by Arceus to inhabit the other Pokemon that will soon exist. If it's created, then Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza are also created if they are the reason for land, sea, and ozone.

-Mew is then used as a base for all Pokemon. Therefore, Arceus creates every Pokemon (possibly excluding Legendaries) using each Mew as the "clay" that is molded into every Pokemon, which is possible by it's ability to learn any move of any type. It's type is granted by Arceus changing type and inheriting it to each newly-made Pokemon. All Pokemon are then created.

Therefore, Mew is ancestor to all Pokemon, and Arceus created them all using Mew.

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Hey there Inkfingers, we've actually got an entire thread dedicated to the discussion on whether Arceus or Mew came first and their roles in the Pokemon universe, so I'm just going to merge this thread over there for you!

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The notion that Arceus created the universe is actually just a Sinnoh myth, it's never said in-game that it's fact. Yes, Arceus is a powerful Pokémon with extraordinary abilities, but the Original One has only been referenced in the Sinnoh-based games and is not ever brought up in other regions (the Sinjoh Ruins being the sole exception).

Diamond:
It is described in mythology as the Pokémon that shaped the universe with its 1,000 arms.
Pearl:
It is told in mythology that this Pokémon was born before the universe even existed.
HeartGold/SoulSilver:
According to the legends of Sinnoh, this Pokémon emerged from an egg and shaped all there is in this world.

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I'm going to go against the Arceus grain here and put my chips on Mew as the predecessor. As Chaos Rush just pointed out, all mentions of the magic llama being the Pokemon world's God are solely isolated to Sinnoh's creation myth. Granted, Arceus gives the player a time/space trio egg, but all that proves is that Arceus has the power to do that. We don't know if the egg is from another dimension, an egg which was sent through time, or if Arceus has a secret hoard of legendary eggs laying about.

Mew's dex entries state that it may be the ancestor to all Pokemon, and I'm including Arceus in that bucket. Bear with me with this explanation, as it is just as speculative as everyone else's, but I use the basics points of evolution as my stepping stone instead of terminator time loops or passed down stories through the ages.

The "Mew" species is the first creature to exist that fits under the category of "Pokemon." With its immaculate ability to transform into anything it sees fit, the creature's ability to adapt in any climate or environment it found itself in. The Mew population flourished throughout the world. After generations of staying in a specific locale, the Pokemon lost it's ability to transform at will, creating the first batches of Pokemon with set Types instead of being able to change Type to suit the need. From here, apply the same rules to evolution throughout the ages until we get to the current iterations of Pikachus and caterpies that we all know and love. The legendary Pokemon are merely more powerful versions of the same basic concept that allows Plulse and Minun to exist.

And this is where I'm sure someone will want to point out that "if Mew turned into all the other Pokemon, then why does Mew still exist?" which is the same question of "if humans came from monkeys, then why be there still monkeys?" Well, look no further than our old toothy friend the alligator. Alligators are, for the most part at least, almost identical to their pre-historic counterparts save for a couple differing features and size. I hypothesize that the Mew we know isn't the perfect cookie cutter copy of the original ancestor, but the closest thing genetically in existence to it.

That's what I choose to accept as canon at least.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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I have a question more impressive than that...

If Mewtwo is a result of a lab manipulation of the child of a PREGNANT MEW, who got the gender less, semi-god, become pregnant?
Legendary Pokemon are not genderless, just no one knows how they breed. Clearly these scientists figured it out but kept it a secret.(either just to ensure no one tries to make a Mewtwo army or if you prefer the anime continuity, they all died in fiery explosions.)
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?