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Mega Slaking should have huge power instead of Truant

It would balance a lot of things out
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Considering almost all of the E4 already have their Mega Pokemon, there could even be a Mega Walrein, or Mega Glalie. The latter getting an Ice/Dark dual type would be funny. {XD}
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Considering almost all of the E4 already have their Mega Pokemon, there could even be a Mega Walrein, or Mega Glalie. The latter getting an Ice/Dark dual type would be funny. {XD}
That's the third time this week I've heard that - and I'm starting to warm up to it. Mega Glalie's stats would be perfect to give it a mega too; just change all except HP to 100; it'd have exactly 100 higher BST than its base, and actually be viable. Plus there would actually be a reason to use it over froslass lol
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It would balance everything in OU best of the best tier


Hah no but really Game Freak would never do something that hideously disgustingly OP to Pokemon

Which is why Stunfisk will never get a mega evolution


Mawile only even got that because it was so ronery for life in usage before it got huge power, and that was off of what, base 80 attack without mega and no sheer force?

If Slaking did get a mega, I would have to believe they'd keep the ability, or change it but not give him any stat boosts; or less of one. Don't think he'll be getting one thoooough

Unless they really want your character's dad to be a mega stone bearer
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So....has the Mega Gengar suspect test concluded yet?
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Newsflash! New Megas have been revealed!

So, the latest CoroCoro revealed three new Mega Evolutions: Mega Gallade, Mega Sharpedo and Mega Camerupt.

Gallade's details aren't known at the time I posted this but the other two do have some:

In terms of stat spreads, Mega Camerupt gets its Speed lowered while raising both its offenses and defenses, pretty much almost like Mega Abomasnow in X/Y. It also gets the Sheer Force ability.

Mega Sharpedo gets boosts in all its stats and gets Strong Jaw for its ability.

Also, Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre's abilities revealed to be Land of Endings and Sea of Beginnings respectively. Both are said to cause infinite rain and sun similar to Drizzle and Drought's effect prior to 6th Gen.

So, any thoughts on how the new Megas would benefit competitively?
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All I can think of off the top of my head is

Sharpedo @ Sharpedite (?)
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Protect
- Ice Fang
- Crunch
- Waterfall / Aqua Jet

Honestly it's a bit all over, Protect gives you a 1.5x speed boost before mega evo, then crunch is STAB with Strong Jaw bonus, and Ice Fang is coverage with Strong Jaw bonus. Coverage for incoming Grass-types maybe? Idk. I can't think of a last move and the EV spread was so quick I didn't really think. In all honesty I think Strong Jaw is a wasted ability on Sharpedo, it only has two moves that benefit from it.
The other problem I see with Mega Sharpedo is that its base form is so horrendously frail, but at least it can come in on a slow Volt Switch or U-turn, or after a teammate is KOed. Also, losing Speed Boost kinda sucks.

Mega Camerupt, on the other hand, I dunno about, since it has 2 rather common weaknesses. A healthy bulk increase might help it a bit, since vanilla Camerupt is rather frail, which isn't good for such a slow Pokemon. At least it has STABs that benefit from Sheer Force:
-Fire Blast
-Earth Power
-Rock Slide
-Stealth Rock/Will-o-Wisp
Nature: Quiet
EVs: 248 HP/8 Atk/252 SAtk
Item: Cameruptite (?)
Ability: Solid Rock

All I want is more stuff about Mega Gallade revealed, considering that it's my favorite Pokemon. Even then, it may face stiff competition from Mega Medicham.

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I agree on that, Sharpedo is way too frail, Speed Boost would've been better for MSharp imo. But even then, you're gonna be hurt badly from any volt switcher or u-turner like you said.

I really wanna see Mega Gallade's info. Hopefully it's given beneficial boosts like MGarde was.
What I mean is that a slow Pokemon like Wash Rotom or Scizor, which are naturally slow Pokemon, can take a hit, then use Volt Switch/U-turn to bring in Sharpedo safely.

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I'm curious as to what Mega Gallade's new ability and stat spread will be, particularly it's ability; Steadfast and Justified seem kinda meh on it to me.


Also, Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre's abilities revealed to be Land of Endings and Sea of Beginnings respectively. Both are said to cause infinite rain and sun similar to Drizzle and Drought's effect prior to 6th Gen.
I kinda said this already in the ORAS thread on Primals, but I really hope that's not the case. I hated the perma-weather of last gen and was glad that X/Y nerfed it. Game Freak, why the hell would you suddenly do an about-face on that and bring it back?! Whhhhhhhhhhhy? I know it'd be restricted to Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre, but I don't want Ubers to revert back to weather wars **** again.
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Mega Gallade has Inner Focus. Whoop-dee-freakin'-do. Out of all the possible abilities out there, and they chose Inner Focus? Well, a potential Speed increase upon Mega Evolutoin just may help Gallade get the jump ahead of some threats, I guess.

I wonder how well Mega Gallade can perform its regular form's sets in Gen V (offensive Swords Dance, bulky Swords Dance, Bulk Up). Well, Inner Focus at least protects it from random Fake Outs, right?

What sucks is that Life Orb Gallade just may hit harder than Mega Gallade.

At least Inner Focus kinda helps in doubles, again for those random Fake Outs, and Gallade just has the right moves for doubles formats:
-Drain Punch
-Zen Headbutt/Psycho Cut/Ice Punch/Rock Slide/Knock Off
-Helping Hand/Heal Pulse/Will-o-Wisp/Thunder Wave/Hypnosis
-Protect
Nature: Careful
EVs: 248 HP/244 SDef/16 Spe
Item: Galladite (?)

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Awh man, inner focus, really???

I was hoping form those shimmery wings it'd get something like magic gaurd or... hell Idunno. Something besides another circumstantial flinch ability. >:C

Ah well. if they boost its regular defense to its Sp. Def's levels, and give a nice speed/attack boost, it'll wreck anywho. And hey, iffff they haven't already confirmed it's still psychic / fighting, couuuld it get that fabled Fairy / Fighting shift in mega?
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Awh man, inner focus, really???

I was hoping form those shimmery wings it'd get something like magic gaurd or... hell Idunno. Something besides another circumstantial flinch ability. >:C

Ah well. if they boost its regular defense to its Sp. Def's levels, and give a nice speed/attack boost, it'll wreck anywho. And hey, iffff they haven't already confirmed it's still psychic / fighting, couuuld it get that fabled Fairy / Fighting shift in mega?
The Fairy/Fighting rumors are debunked as of now; Mega Gallade stays Psychic/Fighting.

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The Fairy/Fighting rumors are debunked as of now; Mega Gallade stays Psychic/Fighting.

B'aw poo. That would've been so cool. Aw well :L Couldn't really see it 'playing rough' anyways. They really REEEALLLY even more than adding new megas, just need to add some more damn fairy moves in ORAS and generations beyond. If it can't play rough, and doesn't get pixilate, it can't attack physically with fairy. >:C
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Mega Gallade gets Inner Focus? Wow, very disappointing. I was like hoping for something more awesome like Adaptability, Defiant or even Justified. Kept its Psychic/Fighting typing as I expected.

Platinum does have a point that it could be outclassed by its Life Orb counterpart, but at least he'll be able to attack through any Fake Out he receives. Also hoping he can get a good enough Speed increase so that he can still be a threat.

But yeah I guess of the two Ralts line Megas, Gallade may pretty much get outclassed by Gardevoir since he has the more inferior ability of the two.
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Mega Gallade could be threatening as a lead in doubles, especially against mega kangaskhan with inner focus. resisting power up punch, and dat fighting stab.
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Okay, now I'm start to feel a bit better about Mega Gallade having Inner Focus. Let's hope the stat boosts compensate for this.

Anyway, I totally forgot to come up with sets for Mega Sceptile and Mega Swampert:

Sceptile:
-Leaf Storm
-Dragon Pulse
-Focus Blast/Hidden Power (Fire)
-Giga Drain/Hidden Power (Fire)
Nature: Timid/Modest (latter only if Mega Sceptile's Speed turns out to be 150; otherwise, Timid)
EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Sceptilite (?)
Ability: Overgrow

Special attacking Mega Sceptile and the otherwise perfect counter to Wash Rotom.

or
-Leaf Storm
-Dragon Pulse/Outrage
-Earthquake/Focus Blast/Rock Slide
-Leaf Blade/Giga Drain/Rock Slide
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe (EVs can be rearranged depending on final stats)
Item: Sceptilite
Ability: Overgrow

Mixed Mega Sceptile seems kinda weird, but it uses Sceptile's good physical move pool.

Swampert:
-Waterfall/Hydro Pump
-Earthquake
-Ice Punch/Ice Beam
-Superpower/Stealth Rock/Rain Dance
Nature: Adamant/Jolly/Naughty/Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Swampertite (?)
Ability: Torrent

Rain teams don't really need their Mega slot, so Mega Swampert can be used if you don't feel like using Kabutops as a physical Swift Swimmer, or Scizor, Manectric or Ampharos as the team's Mega. Lack of priority kinda hurts, but Swampert is bulky enough to take priority at least. Hydro Pump or Ice Beam are options if you don't want Mega Swampert to be walled by physical walls (other than Gliscor or Therian Landorus, who take loads from Waterfall or Ice Punch).

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So there's a trailer now about Primal Kyogre and Groudon's new moves and abilities (and other things):



Whatcha all think about these abilities? All I can hope for is that they aren't permanent weather conditions.
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So there's a trailer now about Primal Kyogre and Groudon's new moves and abilities (and other things):



Whatcha all think about these abilities? All I can hope for is that they aren't permanent weather conditions.
Serebii says the weather fades out after Primal Kyogre/Groudon are switched out. Thank goodness.

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Semi-perma-weather from Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre does sound like a sweet deal, but only they get to benefit from it unless they're in doubles. It's also neat that Precipice Blades and Origin Pulse are spread moves.

Primal Groudon benefits the most out of its own souped-up weather because normally it's 4x weak to Water. Now it can say "screw you" to the Water Pokemon that used to plague it so much simply by switching in to them. I think that this will make it an excellent check to Water Pokemon, something the regular Groudon did rather shakily.

Primal Kyogre is still a threat with its own weather ability; not even a weather change can stop it (unless it's from Primal Groudon; I could be wrong upon release).

Potential sets for both Pokemon:

Groudon:
-Stealth Rock
-Precipice Blades/Earthquake (the latter if Blades turns out to be weaker than Earthquake)
-Fire Punch/Lava Plume/Thunder Wave
-Toxic/Roar/Dragon Tail/Thunder Wave
Nature: Impish/Relaxed/Careful/Sassy
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef or 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
Item: Primal stone (?)

Losing Lefties recovery hurts, but Primal Groudon could have its bulk increased to better take on opposing attackers. It now has STAB on Fire Punch and Lava Plume to make it even more threatening.

or
-Precipice Blades
-Fire Blast/Fire Punch
-Stone Edge
-Solar Beam
Nature: Naive/Naughty
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Primal Stone (?)

Mixed Primal Groudon, assuming its Special Attack gets a nice increase too.

In essence, Primal Groudon can pull off regular Groudon's old sets with more efficiency.

Kyogre:
-Calm Mind/Thunder Wave
-Origin Wave/Hydro Pump/Scald
-Thunder
-Ice Beam
Nature: Modest/Timid
EVs: 252 HP/252 SAtk/4 SDef or 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Primal Stone (?)

As is the case of Primal Groudon, it hurts to lose Lefties recovery, but Primal Kyogre could still pull off a Calm Mind set rather well. It can also use Thunder Wave to cripple incoming non-Ground/Electric sweepers.
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Serebii says the weather fades out after Primal Kyogre/Groudon are switched out. Thank goodness.
Whew. That's good. I was scared for a bit there that they brought perma weather back.

Now I have to wonder how the ability to nullify Fire or Water attacks will impact Ubers. If it only happens while the Primals are in play, it doesn't effect Kyogre much, since you'd never really use a Fire attack on it anyway, but it does help Groudon a lot. Being weak to the STAB of your opposite sucked for it, and being Ground/Fire would've been terrible without Desolate Land. I guess it kinda evens them out really.
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im guessing primal groudon would be an good check/counter to xerneas due to its new fire typing. with its sun-boosted fire attacks/powerful physical attacks, shouldn't be hard to score a 2hko or even an ohko on it.

also, primal kyogre can't touch primal groudon under desolate land. hydro pump? **** off. ice beam? have fun spamming!

can't wait to see smogon's suspect tests :x