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So, Manaphy and Hoopa-U became S-Rank threads and now it seems, that they are even considering on rising Azumarill and Garchomp, as well. S-Rank sure is getting crowded more and more, as it seems. That really makes me wonder, how people still manage to prepare for so many threats...
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So, Manaphy and Hoopa-U became S-Rank threads and now it seems, that they are even considering on rising Azumarill and Garchomp, as well. S-Rank sure is getting crowded more and more, as it seems.
They're thinking of moving Garchomp and Azumarill up to S too? Garchomp I can maybe see there, but not so much Azu.

That really makes me wonder, how people still manage to prepare for so many threats...
idk how the hell people do it either
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manaphy isn't worthy of S rank tbh
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hoopa unbound is broken as muk

i woukdn't make too much out of small differences in rankings in the viability thread. whether manaphy is placed in a+ or s, it's still a very difficult threat to beat.

(s is for skittles)
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hoopa unbound is broken as muk

i woukdn't make too much out of small differences in rankings in the viability thread. whether manaphy is placed in a+ or s, it's still a very difficult threat to beat.

(s is for skittles)
Hoopa-U isn't broken imo, but is definitely the best pokemon in the meta rn. Stall is cancerous on the high ladder, and Hoopa-U provides a way to put those trolls in their place lol

Why it isn't broken... well, I think you get it "ehhhh it's slow and has poor defense offense reks it lel" unlike something such as Landorus which could tweak its moveset to beat all playstyles.
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stall is cancerous on high ladder?
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what the hell is this thread title

can someone who actively battles explain what makes Hoopa-U so good that what I first assumed would be KyuB V2 is actually S-Rank
Kyurem-B has no movepool. Hoopa-U has good coverage. Oh and much better mixed offensive stats.
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hoopa-unbound is, to dust off an old buzzword that has fallen out of favor, pretty much uncounterable (!) and, when played well/supported properly, gets enough switch-in opportunities to do its job and then some.
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Hoopa-U isn't broken imo, but is definitely the best pokemon in the meta rn. Stall is cancerous on the high ladder, and Hoopa-U provides a way to put those trolls in their place lol.
Offense is cancer on the higher ladder, lets unban mega kanga to put those trolls in their place!

See what i did there?

Its not a good argument. Stop.

hoopa-unbound is, to dust off an old buzzword that has fallen out of favor, pretty much uncounterable (!) and, when played well/supported properly, gets enough switch-in opportunities to do its job and then some.
This

manaphy isn't worthy of S rank tbh
Also applies to this. Scald HydraRest and Tail Glow essentially make it "uncounterable". Thankfully its getting ban attention now lol.
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so in other words

it is KyuB v2 in a way but it's actually much better?
Pretty much. It also has Knock and a stupid movepool and higher offensive stats and an even better special defense. That and it has less weaks and isnt Stealth Rock weak.
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Never played on the battle server. How active is it?
Depends when you go on, usually evening time its more active. :P We usually get about 15-20 (20+ in evening) people on and you can always find a battle.
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Depends when you go on, usually evening time its more active. :P We usually get about 15-20 (20+ in evening) people on and you can always find a battle.
Thanks for the info. I haven't done any competitive anything since I sold Omega Ruby. I was going to way for the XY 3rd version but who knows when that will be.

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What I just found.

Spoiler:


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Question: does the "Look for a battle"-button on our server even have a use, as in: actually useful?
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I almost forgot how bad the low ladder can get

Question: does the "Look for a battle"-button on our server even have a use, as in: actually useful?
Not really. Usually people just ask for battles in the chat or arrange them via PMs, not to mention that there's not a huge number of people on the battle server, and not all of them are interested in battling, so no one really ever hits the "Look for a Battle" button on the PC server. Works great on the Smogon server though when the ladder's not psyducking down
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It would be cool, if it would also arrange battles between people on different servers. That way one could always find a battle, while also staying on the PC server.
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It would be cool, if it would also arrange battles between people on different servers. That way one could always find a battle, while also staying on the PC server.
If only it were that easy to communicate from one server to another :p But yes, this does sound like a cool feature. Perhaps you could pitch it over at Showdown's suggestion thread and see if maybe one of the devs might be interested in doing it? It's a long shot, I presume, but it's worth a shot, I think!

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"so yeah hoopa-C has no real nich outside of tr teams and then 150 sptk is ass because it has basically no ability."

From the viability ranking thread.
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remember the days when base 150 in a stat was considered really high and not the norm for stuff?

how the times have changed.....
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