Seen April 10th, 2015
Posted April 12th, 2014
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So, I'm looking for any tips, tricks, or modifications to this pretty basic defensive team.
Skarmory @ Leftovers
Ability: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 Spe
Impish nature (+Def, -SpA)
- Brave Bird
- Roost
- Spikes
- Whirlwind

Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Protect
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic

Breloom @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 236 HP / 248 Def / 24 Spe
Impish nature (+Def, -SpA)
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Focus Punch
- Spore

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP / 184 SpD / 76 Spe
Timid nature (+Spe, -Atk)
-Thunderbolt
-Roost
-Defog
-Heat Wave

Azumarill @ Assault Vest
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 16 HP / 252 Atk / 240 SpD
-Aqua Jet
-Play Rough
-Power-Up Punch
-Waterfall

Sylveon @ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Pixilate
EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
- Wish
- Protect
- Moonblast
- Heal Bell

So, some suggestions I've tried are:
  • Greninja to replace the azumarill
  • Start over with a baton pass combo (I kind of like this idea but I don't know where to start)

What do you guys think?

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Sturdy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keen Eye on Skarmory. It ensures that Skarmory does something at full health, whether it be setting up hazards, phazing out the opponent or getting an attack in. It can always be restored with a couple uses of Roost. Keen Eye is highly situational.

I wouldn't use this particular Breloom set if I were you. It's best off all-out attacking this gen:
-Spore
-Bullet Seed
-Mach Punch
-Rock Tomb
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Focus Sash
Ability: Technician

If you want a better defensive Grass Pokemon, use Mega Venusaur:
-Giga Drain
-Sludge Bomb
-Sleep Powder/Earthquake
-Synthesis
Nature: Bold/Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/88 Def/168 SDef or 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Venusaurite

or
-Giga Drain/Leech Seed
-Sludge Bomb
-Hidden Power (Fire)
-Synthesis/Protect
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 HP/252 SAtk/4 SDef
Item: Venusaurite

Zapdos should use a Bold nature with 252 HP/168 Def/68 SAtk/20 Spe to better handle Bisharp and Mega Pinsir.

Hyper Voice >>>>> Moonblast on Sylveon. Moonblast isn't affected by Pixilate because it's already a Fairy move. Pixilate only affects Normal moves, which Hyper Voice is.

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You want your Sylveon's EV spread to be 252 HP, 244 Defense, 12 Speed. Something about outspeeding a few threats.


In addition to MegaSaur, you can also use Trevenant, Gourgeist, or Tangrowth for defensive Grass types (if you go that way):


-Super Size Me Gourgeist w/Leftovers
Nature: Impish
Ability: Frisk
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Defense
Moves: Will-o-Wisp, Leech Seed, Seed Bomb, Shadow Sneak


-Trevenant w/Sitrus Berry
Nature: Adamant/Impish
Ability: Harvest
EVs: 252 HP, 184 Defense, 76 Speed
Moves: Will-o-Wisp, Leech Seed, Protect/Substitute, Phantom Force/Shadow Claw


-Tangrowth w/Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Defense
Moves: Giga Drain, Substitute, Leech Seed, Hidden Power Fire/Rock


Something like that.
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You want your Sylveon's EV spread to be 252 HP, 244 Defense, 12 Speed. Something about outspeeding a few threats.


In addition to MegaSaur, you can also use Trevenant, Gourgeist, or Tangrowth for defensive Grass types (if you go that way):


-Super Size Me Gourgeist w/Leftovers
Nature: Impish
Ability: Frisk
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Defense
Moves: Will-o-Wisp, Leech Seed, Seed Bomb, Shadow Sneak


-Trevenant w/Sitrus Berry
Nature: Adamant/Impish
Ability: Harvest
EVs: 252 HP, 184 Defense, 76 Speed
Moves: Will-o-Wisp, Leech Seed, Protect/Substitute, Phantom Force/Shadow Claw


-Tangrowth w/Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Defense
Moves: Giga Drain, Substitute, Leech Seed, Hidden Power Fire/Rock


Something like that.
Top threats in OU will eat Trevenant alive (Bisharp comes in on Sub-less Trevenant and cripple SubSeed variants with Knock Off, the Megazards and Mega Pinsir will use it as setup bait, etc.). Just putting that out there. I don't think it's that viable anymore, even though I enjoyed using it for a time. While Gourgeist suffers from the same problems, it has better bulk to make use of. It also can't learn Shadow Claw:
-Will-o-Wisp
-Leech Seed
-Seed Bomb
-Protect
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Frisk

Tangrowth is too slow for SubSeed:
-Giga Drain/Leaf Storm
-Knock Off
-Earthquake
-Hidden Power (Ice/Fire)/Rock Slide
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
Item: Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator

or
-Giga Drain/Leaf Storm
-Knock Off
-Sleep Powder/Earthquake
-Hidden Power (Ice/Fire)
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator

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bronzong gastrodon and mega mawile make a pretty neat defensive and sweeping trio.

this is my bronzong set

Rio Ferdinand (Bronzong) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Brave Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Gyro Ball
- Trick Room
Bronzong is a no-go this generation. It gained weaknesses to Dark and Ghost in the generation shift; this is crippling because Knock Off, Aegislash and Gengar are everywhere. It's also shut down by Mold Breaker Excadrill.

Seen April 10th, 2015
Posted April 12th, 2014
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Thanks guys, lots of help. I wanted to say that I (again, ugh) forgot to update the list of my team, so many of the EVs are off. Either way, I'll take your recommendations into consideration and post back here. You guys should know that Azumarill's only point in the team is as an all out attacker, because I wanted my team to be *mostly* defensive. A sweep here and there is good for the soul, am I right? So, if I were to switch Azumarill for a different, more type covering attacker, what would you guys recommend? Mega Venusaur seems like a great idea, so I'm going to replace breloom.