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Old March 7th, 2005 (8:29 AM). Edited March 7th, 2005 by CyndaQuilava.
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im just wondering:

which is better, leftovers or shell bell?

i put 6 shell bells on my tem, but i dont know if i should replace them with leftovers. please help me. thanks.

ps- stop calling them lefties!!!
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Old March 7th, 2005 (11:21 AM).
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Lefties is better. Healing all the time is better since when you rest, doubleteam, taunt, Swordsdance, etc. you don't get any healing.

Lefties > Leftovers.
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Old March 7th, 2005 (11:46 AM).
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I use shell bell on all out Attackers as they will be healing more with shell bell than lefties
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Old March 7th, 2005 (1:00 PM). Edited March 7th, 2005 by CyndaQuilava.
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so it should be:

pidgeot-leftovers
due to toxic and whirwlind

raichu- leftovers

due to thunderwave and rain dance

dugtrio- shell bell

due to earthquake, rock slide, aerial ace and sludgebomb

vileplume- leftovers

due to sunny and aromatherapy

gyarados- leftovers

due to dragon dance

charizard- shell bell

due to flamethrower, aerial ace, dragon claw and earthquake
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choice band for dugtrio

zard is fine
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Old March 7th, 2005 (1:01 PM).
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It's not like they all have to heal, only if you want them to! And thanks for taking my advice on their moves!
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Old March 7th, 2005 (1:02 PM).
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Old March 7th, 2005 (1:20 PM). Edited March 7th, 2005 by CyndaQuilava.
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i didnt for the following reasons:

Pidgeot
w/ Brightpowder

Aerial Ace()
Steel Wing(GAG ME WITH A SPOON BIG TIME!)
Hidden Power (Ground)(Hmm ok) <-- my pidgeots hidden power is not ground
Whirlwind(Gag me with a spoon! lol)

^Note: I think pigeot should have sub and a berry or something of the sort

Raichu
w/ Shell Bell(Petaya berry) <-- dont have any way of obtaining

Thunder(thunderbolt) <-- theyre both on my team now
Hidden Power (ice, this is a change) <-- my raichu's hidden power is not ice or water or grass
Thunder Wave(ok)
Rain Dance(NO! Substitute) <-- YES!! its form my thunderdance STAB combo!!

Dugtrio
w/ Focus Band(leftovers or liechi, maybe) <-- i used shell bell cuz it heals 1/8 hp and works after any move i make

Earthquake
Rock Slide
Sludge Bomb(I don't think so! sub maybe) <-- no! i need it in defense against
Hidden Power (NO! This has bad special attack!) <-- i replaced it with aerial ace for the same reason as sludge bomb, also cuz its HP wasnt grass or electricity

Vileplume
w/ Scope Lens <-- replaced with shell and will be replaced with leftovers

Solarbeam(filler)
Hidden Power (ice) <-- its not ice, or rock! but its a type that can take out bug types! (-_-) this was replaced with giga drain, which is a STAB attack, as well as a healer like moonlight
Aromatherapy(ok, i like it)
Sunny Day(filler)

Gyarados
w/ Leftovers

Surf(Gyrados has low sp. attack SO NO! Substitute) <-- look: 1. i EV trained its sp atk stat to be around equal with the other stats. 2. even though i own a mew for an hm slave, i use surf to cross waters 3. its a strong water attack
Earthquake
Return(Hp flying, stab) <-- indeed a STAB aerial ace works, but with a base of 60 and stab of 90, a return dance combo does alot more. that and since all my pokemon love me (not sexually !_!) gyarados's eturn base does a full 100. with the help of d-dance, its abot 120-140. strong!
Dragon Dance

Charizard
w/ Quick Claw <-- replaced with shell bell

Flamethrower
Earthquake
Dragon claw(not claw dance) <-- ??? either i miselled it wrong, wich i dont think i did or NO! i will not replace an attack for dragon dance, cuz i dont want to breed my starter!!!
Aerial Ace
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Old March 7th, 2005 (1:37 PM).
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I think the Shell Bell is most effective when you attach it to a Pokemon that knows Swords Dance/Bulk Up/Growth/Calm Mond/etc. Sweepers to be more exact. BUT I still like Leftovers more.
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Old March 7th, 2005 (2:25 PM).
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I only use Shell Bell on my GBA because theres not enough lefties. (I have 3 and Im still not happy :)) The only time I even consider shell bell is on my Mewtwo, due to the fact that it is one of my highest attackers and has recover already.
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If you have high HP and a bunch of stalling/tanking moves, leftovers is the way to go.
If you have low HP/high defenses and a slew of attacking moves (and maybe Swords Dance/CM), then Shell Bell may very well recover more HP than Leftovers. My Exploud uses a Shell Bell.
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Old March 7th, 2005 (8:28 PM).
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i put leftovers on my pidgeot, raichu, vileplume and gyarados. they all use non-attack moves first and i know my opponents will attack first so i have a way of letting them recover slightly. as for my sweepers, dugtrio and charizard, they use shell bell since they attack every move


ps- congrats on the shiny hophip metal mario! i see youre a veteran SPP forum user such as myself!
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