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I've already discussed this with Betty but I haven't said it in this thread, so I'll leave my opinion here again.

Ok, Red's team has Pikachu. But Blue's team is exactly the same in GSC as in Red and Blue, not Yellow, except for the starter. They did this to avoid canonizing Blue's starter choice, but it's pretty clear his team was taken from Red and Blue.

IMO Red having Pikachu is more a reference to the anime than to Yellow. In HGSS, Pikachu's attacks are the same it uses in the Diamond and Pearl seasons of the anime. I think this reference is bad, because it weakened him. Red is the weakest Champion in the PWT, largely because of Pikachu.

Pokémon following you was created by the anime, not Yellow. The anime obviously came first. Nevertheless, it's a feature that's far more hyped than it's useful, which is why it never came back even after four games.

The Pokémon rosters in GSC are put together in a way that you can't say which game is canon. Blaine has a Magmar, which is a reference to the anime, because he didn't have it in Yellow. Other roster additions are probably anime references, too, like Misty's Golduck, but they didn't break relation to Red and Blue, because Koga still has his Muk from RB, Sabrina still has her Mr.Mime from RB and Lt. Surge has Electrode in GSC which is likely his evolved Voltorb from RB. The only one who might be a reference to Yellow is Erika, but then her team in the anime is the same and it's possible they gave her Bellossom just because Bellossom fits her better than Vileplume.

Personally I do NOT want to see Yellow remade because it's an unusual game in the series where you start with a really mukty Pokémon that loses its steam by midgame and you conveniently get all starters, which goes against the point of Pokémon in the first place, which is to encourage trading between players. True, you could give a Light Ball to Pikachu midgame to address this problem, but it's still made of paper, even after the XY defensive boost, and it stops you from getting Raichu since Ash's Pikachu stupidly doesn't want to evolve. In a 1st gen remake, I don't want to play as Ash, I want to play as myself and make my own choices, whereas Yellow kinda forces you to use Pikachu (or else you can't get Bulbasaur for example).

Also, the gym rosters in Yellow are terrible for the most part, especially for the characters who are based on the anime (Koga has three psyducking Venonats FFS) and the difficulty is artificial due to overinflated enemy levels. The exceptions are Blaine, whose roster wasn't based on the anime, and Giovanni, whose Rhyhorn was replaced with the superior Persian, although GF was lucky that Persian was actually a good Pokémon in RBY (though its only asset was Slash).

Another thing from Yellow that wasn't canonized was JJM. They could've been in GSC if Yellow was the canon game, but they weren't. Also, Giovanni's Persian is only seen in Yellow, never in other games. In HGSS, he has Kangaskhan instead, which is his Pokémon from RB that they replaced with Persian in Yellow.


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I will feel kind of bad for Altaria...it's Mega's unique typing won't be unique much longer if they do that. You bring up an interesting point in thinking that they will contrast the Pseudos...as XY's were both related to sandstorms (in addition to being the odd gen Megas), while as I said ORAS had both Hoenn Pseudos. If Dragonite doesn't get Dragon/Fairy or keeps it's typing then they should make Dragonite Dragon/Water and give it the ability multiscale or Drizzle (this one as it's pre-evolutions had some ability to control the weather according to dex entries).
Well, you never know, Dragon/Fairy Mega Dragonite could still end up playing differently from Mega Altaria.

Dragon/Water and Drizzle wouldn't be bad if they won't give it Fairy.

Well I don't think they retcon Wallace out of being champion if the ending of the Delta Episode is any indication (perhaps we'll see Mega Milotic in a couple of year once Delta Emerald is made...I hope...).
Unfortunately, DeltaEmerald's not getting made, especially not in a couple of years. Just ask WaterBlue and Grey. I have a feeling that it will be a very long time before we'll see Wallace as a Champion again.

Let's just hope that GF doesn't end up saving Dragonite for potential HGSS remakes...
Now, THAT would be trolling! {D:}

I think Mega Dragonite will come in Gen 1 remakes. Possibly, Mega Hydreigon, as well.

Pokémon following you was created by the anime, not Yellow. The anime obviously came first. Nevertheless, it's a feature that's far more hyped than it's useful, which is why it never came back even after four games.
But, Yellow was the first game to have it. Big difference.

I love following Pokémon. Who cares if it doesn't have a "practical" use? It makes Pokémon seem more like "real" companions and less like emotionless data you use to fight other people with. That is a good thing.

Another thing from Yellow that wasn't canonized was JJM. They could've been in GSC if Yellow was the canon game, but they weren't.
Based on that criteria, Lorelei and Agatha aren't canon characters, as well, as last I checked, neither were seen or heard from in GSC, either. We simply have no idea what happened to Jessie and James between Gens 1 and 2, just like we don't know whether Agatha died or not.
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Well, you never know, Dragon/Fairy Mega Dragonite could still end up playing differently from Mega Altaria.

Dragon/Water and Drizzle wouldn't be bad if they won't give it Fairy.



Unfortunately, DeltaEmerald's not getting made, at least not in a couple of years. Just ask WaterBlue and Grey. I have a feeling that it will be a very long time before we'll see Wallace as a Champion again.



Now, THAT would be trolling! {D:}

I think Mega Dragonite will come in Gen 1 remakes. Possibly, Mega Hydreigon, as well.



But, Yellow was the first game to have it. Big difference.

I love following Pokémon. Who cares if it doesn't have a "practical" use? It makes Pokémon seem more like "real" companions and less like emotionless data you use to fight other people with. That is a good thing.



Based on that criteria, Lorelei and Agatha aren't canon characters, as well, as last I checked, neither were seen or heard from in GSC, either. We simply have no idea what happened to Jessie and James between Gens 1 and 2, just like we don't know whether Agatha died or not.
There fixed it for you. Btw what happened that you misquoted Cerberus as if I was the one who said it?

Speaking of WaterBlue GF do have that name trademarked (btw since GF trademarked WB, Grey, and DE and we know that WB and Grey were at least considered at one point chances are they did consider making DE instead of ORAS with the DeEp being the remains of that plot). Remaking Red at this point is complicated if they are to use the starter's Megas as mascots. At this point if a Kanto re-remake is to happen they'll either have to leave out Megas in the mainstory (I bet some on here will be happy with this) and leave the mascots as they are, remake Yellow (again some cheers and some boos) with Pikachu, remake Blue as Water Blue with Mega Blastoise, or they drop the Kanto starters and Pikachu and instead remake Kanto under different names...drumroll please...Pokemon Orange and/or Pokemon Purple (along with Green they are secondary colors) with Orange being a remake of Yellow with Raichu as the mascot and less anime references, meanwhile the other one Pokemon Purple will feature Mewtwo and revolve around it...but wait Mewtwo has the same issue as Charizard-Red...Well there is another choice and that is to remake Green again and this time alongside Blue. Potential names are Pokemon VerdantleafGreen and AquaticwaterBlue (even if WaterBlue never was a thing...but hey Green wasn't a game's name outside of Japan either and yet was the name we got) kicking the overrated Charizard and giving some spot light to the two underrated Kanto starters.
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There fixed it for you. Btw what happened that you misquoted Cerberus as if I was the one who said it?
Whoops, there was a glitch. Went back and fixed it.

Speaking of WaterBlue GF do have that name trademarked (btw since GF trademarked WB, Grey, and DE and we know that WB and Grey were at least considered at one point chances are they did consider making DE instead of ORAS with the DeEp being the remains of that plot). Remaking Red at this point is complicated if they are to use the starter's Megas as mascots. At this point if a Kanto re-remake is to happen they'll either have to leave out Megas in the mainstory (I bet some on here will be happy with this) and leave the mascots as they are, remake Yellow (again some cheers and some boos) with Pikachu, remake Blue as Water Blue with Mega Blastoise, or they drop the Kanto starters and Pikachu and instead remake Kanto under different names...drumroll please...Pokemon Orange and/or Pokemon Purple (along with Green they are secondary colors) with Orange being a remake of Yellow with Raichu as the mascot and less anime references, meanwhile the other one Pokemon Purple will feature Mewtwo and revolve around it...but wait Mewtwo has the same issue as Charizard-Red...Well there is another choice and that is to remake Green again and this time alongside Blue. Potential names are Pokemon VerdantleafGreen and AquaticwaterBlue (even if WaterBlue never was a thing...but hey Green wasn't a game's name outside of Japan either and yet was the name we got) kicking the overrated Charizard and giving some spot light to the two underrated Kanto starters.
I have to say, it doesn't have a shot of happening, but I'd seriously howl if we got Green and Blue as a pair. Just imagine all of the Charizard fanboy tears... {XD}

(Am I the only person who never bought Red version and never cared to? Sorry, but the "kickass" dragon on the cover just wasn't enough to wow me.)

An alternate idea could be remaking Yellow and Blue as a pair. People who love Yellow's additions can play the Yellow remake, while people who hate Yellow can play the Blue remake, so everybody wins. (Wild encounters would be tweaked to be more complimentary.)
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Whoops, there was a glitch. Went back and fixed it.



I have to say, it doesn't have a shot of happening, but I'd seriously howl if we got Green and Blue as a pair. Just imagine all of the Charizard fanboy tears... {XD}

(Am I the only person who never bought Red version and never cared to? Sorry, but the "kickass" dragon on the cover just wasn't enough to wow me.)

An alternate idea could be remaking Yellow and Blue as a pair. People who love Yellow's additions can play the Yellow remake, while people who hate Yellow can play the Blue remake, so everybody wins. (Wild encounters would be tweaked to be more complimentary.)
Opps. I left out the Blue and Yellow pair idea and that one has been on my mind since I first saw this thread...
Blue has it's own exclusives irc like Jynx and Mr. Mime even (basically the in game trades from RG) so there's that, also Yellow had differences from RG too didn't it? I do think they need to do something special with the Pikachu if they do remake Yellow too (or only Yellow). I want Mega Raichu as the mascot (yellow now to fit the game's name) but that's already been shreded on here so my confidence in it isn't all that great...also Cosplay Pikachu won't work...so my old idea of an abnormally strong Pikachu with stats close to Raichu seems like the best scenerio (meanwhile Raichu get's it's Mega too hehe), with Light orb it might even be better than a Mega Raichu...perhaps also reintroduce the special Pikachus and Pichus from the past. Perhaps if Johto or some kind of Celebi shrine is added we could see Notched Ear Pichu again, and someone from Hoenn could give us a Cosplay Pikachu, Shiny Pichu could be distributed, Flying Pikachu and Surfing Pikachu (if the mascot Pikachu doesn't get these) could be rare in wild finds.

Btw Kanto remakes also will present the chance for one of the best things FrLg introduced...the VS Seeker (not seen since Pt...so no matter if Kanto or Sinnoh are remade next it's bound to pop up again...)
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I love following Pokémon. Who cares if it doesn't have a "practical" use? It makes Pokémon seem more like "real" companions and less like emotionless data you use to fight other people with. That is a good thing.
I think Pokémon-Amie effectively replaced that. And it's easier to code, too, as they can just reuse the battle models instead of creating new sprites/models for 721 Pokémon.

I didn't like the feature because you can't choose which Pokémon follows you, it's always the leading one.

Based on that criteria, Lorelei and Agatha aren't canon characters, as well, as last I checked, neither were seen or heard from in GSC, either. We simply have no idea what happened to Jessie and James between Gens 1 and 2, just like we don't know whether Agatha died or not.
But Team Rocket was in GSC. If they rebuilt Team Rocket in GSC, what would stop GF from including JJM? Besides, FRLG explained what happened to Team Rocket in-between the 1st and 2nd gens, and also why Lorelei wasn't in the new League. Yes, you don't like the way they did it, but it's canon.

Actually, speaking of Lorelei, they didn't really write her off from what I could read in the text. So it's still unexplained why she left the League, as she does return for the E4 second wave. At least she got it better than Agatha, who was never even seen out of her room and was also cut from GSC/HGSS. Agatha isn't the kind that would simply retire from battling, though, so her absence implies she died, which is a rather morbid way to write the character off.


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I do think they need to do something special with the Pikachu if they do remake Yellow too (or only Yellow). I want Mega Raichu as the mascot (yellow now to fit the game's name) but that's already been shreded on here so my confidence in it isn't all that great...also Cosplay Pikachu won't work...so my old idea of an abnormally strong Pikachu with stats close to Raichu seems like the best scenerio (meanwhile Raichu get's it's Mega too hehe), with Light orb it might even be better than a Mega Raichu...perhaps also reintroduce the special Pikachus and Pichus from the past. Perhaps if Johto or some kind of Celebi shrine is added we could see Notched Ear Pichu again, and someone from Hoenn could give us a Cosplay Pikachu, Shiny Pichu could be distributed, Flying Pikachu and Surfing Pikachu (if the mascot Pikachu doesn't get these) could be rare in wild finds.
Knowing GF, they'll probably "magically" make Pikachu the first middle form to be able to Mega Evolve, and they'll probably also have it Mega Evolve just by knowing a certain move (like Rayquaza), so its Mega can still hold the Light Ball. It will be Electric/Fairy and have Speed Boost as its Ability. Raichu will also mysteriously vanish from the game...

Btw Kanto remakes also will present the chance for one of the best things FrLg introduced...the VS Seeker (not seen since Pt...so no matter if Kanto or Sinnoh are remade next it's bound to pop up again...)
Yeah, we'll definitely see the VS Seeker again. I just hope we get a phone to go along with it, this time.
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Knowing GF, they'll probably "magically" make Pikachu the first middle form to be able to Mega Evolve, and they'll probably also have it Mega Evolve just by knowing a certain move (like Rayquaza), so its Mega can still hold the Light Ball. It will be Electric/Fairy and have Speed Boost as its Ability. Raichu will also mysteriously vanish from the game...
I'd quit Pokémon if this ever happened. :P


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I think Pokémon-Amie effectively replaced that. And it's easier to code, too, as they can just reuse the battle models instead of creating new sprites/models for 721 Pokémon.
It's still not the same, though. I want to see my Pokémon walking around with me.

I didn't like the feature because you can't choose which Pokémon follows you, it's always the leading one.
That's not that big of an issue for me. Hey, it beats only having Pikachu follow you, right?

But Team Rocket was in GSC. If they rebuilt Team Rocket in GSC, what would stop GF from including JJM?
And, the Indigo Elite Four existed in GSC, too, so why weren't Lorelei and Agatha there? Jessie and James might have gotten fired when Archer took over for all we know.

Besides, FRLG explained what happened to Team Rocket in-between the 1st and 2nd gens, and also why Lorelei wasn't in the new League. Yes, you don't like the way they did it, but it's canon.
That's the remakes' timeline, which is irrelevant to RBY/GSC.

Actually, speaking of Lorelei, they didn't really write her off from what I could read in the text. So it's still unexplained why she left the League, as she does return for the E4 second wave. At least she got it better than Agatha, who was never even seen out of her room and was also cut from GSC/HGSS. Agatha isn't the kind that would simply retire from battling, though, so her absence implies she died, which is a rather morbid way to write the character off.
GF just didn't care enough about either character, that's why. GF doesn't exactly have a good track record with Elite Four members, in general.
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It's still not the same, though. I want to see my Pokémon walking around with me.
Ok...

That's not that big of an issue for me. Hey, it beats only having Pikachu follow you, right?
I have other pet peeves with it, too. Like, not all birds flying behind you. The biggest offender was Honchkrow, it's a large, strong bird and follows me by walking around like a chicken. Pidgey I'd even understand, but Honchkrow?

At least all the birds fly in their 6th gen battle models...

And, the Indigo Elite Four existed in GSC, too, so why weren't Lorelei and Agatha there? Jessie and James might have gotten fired when Archer took over for all we know.
They're too important in the Pokémon media for them to be simply written off like that. I prefer the more convenient explanation: their game appearances weren't canonized.

That's the remakes' timeline, which is irrelevant to RBY/GSC.
Now I've seen you mention this in quite a few threads, and I think you (and a few others) are trying to make sense of something which was never mentioned in any media. It was never said that the 3rd and 4th gen remakes are in a different timeline from the originals. According to Zinnia, XY and ORAS are in a parallel timeline to RS, but it's never stated anywhere that the same reasoning applies to the GB games and their remakes. I'll go as far as saying that, if it was really the case that FRLG and HGSS are in parallel dimensions instead of being retcons, it would've been mentioned in the remakes themselves, and most importantly, it would've been an important plot point. This is only fan speculation, for now.

I don't know when Bulbapedia will update their timeline page, but when they do, I expect them not to use the theory that RBYGSC are in a parallel timeline to FRLGHGSS, because it's never stated in the games. I mean, it's a convenient theory, but the guys behind it are trying to make sense of things like advances in storage mechanics being somehow linked to the story, when the advances are simply due to real-life technology being better and aren't related to the story at all.

GF just didn't care enough about either character, that's why. GF doesn't exactly have a good track record with Elite Four members, in general.
Well, Lorelei got more in FRLG than quite a few E4 members in other games. Bruno was kept in GSC but he never appears out of his room in the games and he's a bit of a punching bag anyway, unlike Lorelei.


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Perhaps Zinnia will pop up in Kanto for the re-remakes and mention that they've observed two other Kanto's (and Johto's?), one where only 150 (or 250 for J) mons are know, and another whose biggest events (fall of TR) take place at the same time as an alternate Hoenn.
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I have other pet peeves with it, too. Like, not all birds flying behind you. The biggest offender was Honchkrow, it's a large, strong bird and follows me by walking around like a chicken. Pidgey I'd even understand, but Honchkrow?
Well, they could only do so much with the technology of the time. Remember that this was the Gen where all of the overworlds looked like little bobbleheads. :P

They're too important in the Pokémon media for them to be simply written off like that. I prefer the more convenient explanation: their game appearances weren't canonized.
Aren't Elite Four members pretty important, too? And, saying that they aren't canon is writing them off, too.

Now I've seen you mention this in quite a few threads, and I think you (and a few others) are trying to make sense of something which was never mentioned in any media. It was never said that the 3rd and 4th gen remakes are in a different timeline from the originals. According to Zinnia, XY and ORAS are in a parallel timeline to RS, but it's never stated anywhere that the same reasoning applies to the GB games and their remakes. I'll go as far as saying that, if it was really the case that FRLG and HGSS are in parallel dimensions instead of being retcons, it would've been mentioned in the remakes themselves, and most importantly, it would've been an important plot point. This is only fan speculation, for now.

I don't know when Bulbapedia will update their timeline page, but when they do, I expect them not to use the theory that RBYGSC are in a parallel timeline to FRLGHGSS, because it's never stated in the games. I mean, it's a convenient theory, but the guys behind it are trying to make sense of things like advances in storage mechanics being somehow linked to the story, when the advances are simply due to real-life technology being better and aren't related to the story at all.
Maybe, it wasn't mentioned in those games because GF didn't put as much thought into these matters back then? (Especially when FRLG were made... Those games could barely tell Gen 1's barebones story, let alone delve into deep meta like this.) If ORAS take place in a different timeline than RSE, then it makes damn sense that the same would be true for the previous two remakes. Besides, people were theorizing this about FRLG and HGSS long before ORAS were even greenlit.

Well, Lorelei got more in FRLG than quite a few E4 members in other games. Bruno was kept in GSC but he never appears out of his room in the games and he's a bit of a punching bag anyway, unlike Lorelei.
None of that has still kept her character from being forgotten by much of the fandom.

Perhaps Zinnia will pop up in Kanto for the re-remakes and mention that they've observed two other Kanto's (and Johto's?), one where only 150 (or 250 for J) mons are know, and another whose biggest events (fall of TR) take place at the same time as an alternate Hoenn.
I'd hate to see Zinnia get shoved into the games, but that would be an easy solution. I'd rather see Bill utilized for this purpose, though.

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Perhaps Zinnia will pop up in Kanto for the re-remakes and mention that they've observed two other Kanto's (and Johto's?), one where only 150 (or 250 for J) mons are know, and another whose biggest events (fall of TR) take place at the same time as an alternate Hoenn.
I'd hate to see Zinnia get shoved into the games, but that would be an easy solution. I'd rather see Bill utilized for this purpose, though.
But Bill's just the creator and maintainer of Kanto's amen Pokémon Storage System, so how in the multiverse could he know anything about all of the parallel universes that may or may not keep popping up inside of the canon Pokémon timeline?!? What does he do, accidentally invent some kind of machine that can transport people between all of these different forks of the timeline while he's trying to improve Kanto's PC infrastructure like we see him doing in R/G/B/Y/FR/LG?
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What does he do, accidentally invent some kind of machine that can transport people between all of these different forks of the timeline while he's trying to improve Kanto's PC infrastructure like we see him doing in R/G/B/Y/FR/LG?
He actually did invent such a machine in GSC. The man clearly knows something about time travel, and I'd like to see that explored. Much better than shoehorning a brand new character into the story, IMO.
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Personally, i would just a true faithful remake.....expansion on areas where it needed, and just refining the same game we played before....

what i definitely hoped for was a story or at least a side story of the three birds, and if their somehow connected to Mew/Mewtwo.

overall....i don't feel like a new game needs the latest mechanics in order to be a fun game. more expansion? yes...but in areas where itneeded it...

i don't know about most Pokemon fans, but i appreciate the old mechanics and never felt like they "needed" to use the new ones, Its also part of its charm, playing a game with previous, and how they each made it work. now that mega evolutoin has been introduced.

and i feel that way for every future remake....if i want to play a game with the latest game, i'll play the latest game in that gen (not remake).

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…What does he do, accidentally invent some kind of machine that can transport people between all of these different forks of the timeline while he's trying to improve Kanto's PC infrastructure like we see him doing in R/G/B/Y/FR/LG?
He actually did invent such a machine in GSC. The man clearly knows something about time travel, and I'd like to see that explored. Much better than shoehorning a brand new character into the story, IMO.
Ah, yes, Generation II's Time Capsule! Maybe there could be some kind of in-game event where he's tinkering with it when we visit his house? This would complement the event where we separate him from the Pokémon that was in a Pokémon Storage System transporter and with he got mixed when he was messing with another one connected to it and accidentally began a teleport, don't you think?
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Ah, yes, Generation II's Time Capsule! Maybe there could be some kind of in-game event where he's tinkering with it when we visit his house? This would complement the event where we separate him from the Pokémon that was in a Pokémon Storage System transporter and with he got mixed when he was messing with another one connected to it and accidentally began a teleport, don't you think?
Yes, that would be perfect! {:3} We could maybe even have the Time Capsule accidentally fling us to the different timelines for certain events later on, with the setting turning into graphics like this in the original timeline and turning into graphics like this in the Gen 3-5 timeline. That way, we can get a literal visual depiction of the multiverse.

If you ask me, the Time Capsule is probably what caused the split between RBY/GSC and FRLG/HGSS, IMO. (Hence the reason why it never returned.) I'd like to see that further explored.

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Bill invented the Time Capsule that's used in GSC? Is it weird that I never actually knew that?

But there are ways they could have throwbacks to the original games in Generation I, and if we could see retrospectives of the region's layouts in 8-bit and 16-bit (or whatever the GBA is) that would be a clever one of them.
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I would love Kanto re-remakes, but at the same time I really hope they don't do it, because I know they would change everything for the worst. The character you didn't pick would be your second rival and act like Shauna, Blue would act like Serena, all of the tutorials from FRLG would probably return and then some, Bill would just give you an Eevee and its Mega Stone, no needing to turn him back into a human, the digger guy in Cerulean would probably give you a Diglet and Dugtrio's Mega Stone when you got his TM back, people around the region would be throwing Pokemon at you in general, the Game Corner would be gone which means Team Rocket's hideout would be gone, so someone would probably just give you the Silph Scope for being you, Marowak's ghost would just be the guardian of Pokemon Tower or something, you'd be forced to battle the (lower leveled) Gym Leaders in order to prevent getting lost, the game would have more of a plot, but it would involve Giovanni explicitly stating he wants to capture Mewtwo and force it to Mega Evolve or something, Moltress would be at Mt. Ember, but they wouldn't include Sevii Islands post-game, as you're experiencing all this there's cutscenes every so often with Blue and Leaf saying how you're all super best friends for life, and worst of all...
Spoiler:
The truck would probably be gone because you have to lose after getting Cut in order to see it, and God forbid any of the little kiddos lose.
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Posted October 8th, 2016
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10.8 Years
My ideal Kanto remake would be very barebones:

- Kanto in full 3D.
- 151 Pokémon + new evos, unrestricted during the main game. Rosters updated to make up for it. Bruno with Steelix, Agatha with Crobat, Giovanni and Blue with Rhyperior. Maybe mix some Yellow and RB rosters. Give Yellow rosters to Blaine (and maybe Giovanni), RB rosters to everyone else.
- Day/night cycle.
- Cinnabar Island bigger and with a visible volcano.
- No customization. Red is iconic. Leaf renamed to Green (Blue in Japanese) as in Adventures. Change Blue's dialogue to Green a bit to imply he looks down on her for being a girl, as a bully like him naturally would.
- Sevii Islands are retconned to Orange Archipelago, with a small four gym quest as in the anime, and an additional Team Rocket quest that ties into the Johto story.
- Lugia and Ho-Oh are catchable in the postgame and require the birds and beasts to be in your possession, respectively. The National Pokédex would trigger the beasts roaming around Kanto. Team Rocket does NOT interact with any legendaries. (this would probably throw canon to the wind, though, because the beasts are supposed to be dormant until the Johto story, but generally anything that deals with legendaries other than the cover ones isn't canon anyway)
- Leave Mewtwo be, as in RBY and FRLG. The allure of Mewtwo is that its always doing it's own thing, completely unbound.

Sevii Islands is the biggest thing I'd change, because the gem quest isn't necessary in a future remake and the old fans would love to be able to visit the Orange Archipelago in the game. The Orange League itself isn't necessary, because in GSC and HGSS you beat the 8 Kanto gyms and there's no league afterwards, so the prize for beating the postgame would be the E4 rematch and admission into the postgame battle facility, which could work as an Orange League of sorts.

I need to mention that these gyms would be harder than the 8 Kanto gyms. Each would focus on: Doubles, Triples, Rotation, and even Inverse Battles!

But really, the postgame would depend a lot on when the games would be released. Because you'd have to acommodate a lot of legendaries, like ORAS did. You could have all sorts of legendaries, because having them in the game isn't canon. For example, Reshiram, Zekrom and Kyurem are in ORAS, but we know from XY dialogue that the events in the new timeline happened more or less in the same way as in the original one, so the Tao trio, at first glance, had no business being in Hoenn. The Lugia thing would just be a way to "canonize" its role as master of the bird trio, even though canonically Lugia is supposed to be resting deep inside the Whirl Islands.

I'd probably have to fit Mega Evolution somewhere in there. Maybe you get your starter's Mega Stone from Mr. Fuji, like in Origins, and then the postgame quest involves it somehow, letting you acquire a Mega Ring at the very end of it. Then the E4 and Champion would have Mega Evolutions of their own. Introduce Mega Lapras, Mega Machamp and Mega Dragonite.

None of that has still kept her character from being forgotten by much of the fandom.
Screw the fandom, then.


Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire, the day Pokémon pulled a Dallas and jumped the shark.

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Posted January 24th, 2016
164 posts
10.6 Years
Loving the ideas that have been getting put out here. I think I would make use of that clock and where if you start a game at a certain time and show up late, Oak gives you Pikachu. Difference here from Pokemon Yellow is that it only happens if you start at a certain time and the other Kanto starters are available to you even if you start with one of them (as well as Pikachu in Viridian Forest).
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Posted March 2nd, 2018
895 posts
8.4 Years
My ideal Kanto remake would be very barebones:

- Kanto in full 3D.
- 151 Pokémon + new evos, unrestricted during the main game. Rosters updated to make up for it. Bruno with Steelix, Agatha with Crobat, Giovanni and Blue with Rhyperior. Maybe mix some Yellow and RB rosters. Give Yellow rosters to Blaine (and maybe Giovanni), RB rosters to everyone else.
- Day/night cycle.
- Cinnabar Island bigger and with a visible volcano.
- No customization. Red is iconic. Leaf renamed to Green (Blue in Japanese) as in Adventures. Change Blue's dialogue to Green a bit to imply he looks down on her for being a girl, as a bully like him naturally would.
- Sevii Islands are retconned to Orange Archipelago, with a small four gym quest as in the anime, and an additional Team Rocket quest that ties into the Johto story.
- Lugia and Ho-Oh are catchable in the postgame and require the birds and beasts to be in your possession, respectively. The National Pokédex would trigger the beasts roaming around Kanto. Team Rocket does NOT interact with any legendaries. (this would probably throw canon to the wind, though, because the beasts are supposed to be dormant until the Johto story, but generally anything that deals with legendaries other than the cover ones isn't canon anyway)
- Leave Mewtwo be, as in RBY and FRLG. The allure of Mewtwo is that its always doing it's own thing, completely unbound.

Sevii Islands is the biggest thing I'd change, because the gem quest isn't necessary in a future remake and the old fans would love to be able to visit the Orange Archipelago in the game. The Orange League itself isn't necessary, because in GSC and HGSS you beat the 8 Kanto gyms and there's no league afterwards, so the prize for beating the postgame would be the E4 rematch and admission into the postgame battle facility, which could work as an Orange League of sorts.

I need to mention that these gyms would be harder than the 8 Kanto gyms. Each would focus on: Doubles, Triples, Rotation, and even Inverse Battles!

But really, the postgame would depend a lot on when the games would be released. Because you'd have to acommodate a lot of legendaries, like ORAS did. You could have all sorts of legendaries, because having them in the game isn't canon. For example, Reshiram, Zekrom and Kyurem are in ORAS, but we know from XY dialogue that the events in the new timeline happened more or less in the same way as in the original one, so the Tao trio, at first glance, had no business being in Hoenn. The Lugia thing would just be a way to "canonize" its role as master of the bird trio, even though canonically Lugia is supposed to be resting deep inside the Whirl Islands.

I'd probably have to fit Mega Evolution somewhere in there. Maybe you get your starter's Mega Stone from Mr. Fuji, like in Origins, and then the postgame quest involves it somehow, letting you acquire a Mega Ring at the very end of it. Then the E4 and Champion would have Mega Evolutions of their own. Introduce Mega Lapras, Mega Machamp and Mega Dragonite.
I like this remake idea, Cerberus. I think it's a good compromise.

I'd also change the Route 5 Daycare into being a full breeding one (as it should've been in FRLG), and have Berry Pots similar to HGSS. Of course, Mossy Rock would be added to Viridian Forest, Ice Rock to Seafoam Islands, and a new area to the Power Plant for Leafeon/Glaceon/Magnezone.

While the game wouldn't be likely to have customization, I wouldn't mind seeing a limited form of it that let you dress in Red and Green's older outfits (including Green's beta outfit). The unselected PC should also have a secondary rival role (as standard with almost all games released since RSE), maybe with a team based on that of Green's Adventures counterpart.

Now, one thing that would have to get a major overhaul even in the most minimalist remake is Celadon Game Corner. Game Corners are obviously a thing of the past, and while they could just stick Voltorb Flip in there again, the complete makeover Mauville City received in ORAS suggests that they might do something different.

One idea I had earlier in the thread was a video arcade. The slot machines would be replaced with arcade games with various minigames, including Pikachu's Beach from Yellow. It could even include ports of the old Pokémon Pinball game and Pokémon Mini games. Doing well in the minigames would get you coins/tokens in return, which could then be exchanged for prizes (like in the old Game Corner). The Gambler trainer class would be entirely replaced with a true Gamer class based on stereotypical gamers. The Celadon Team Rocket sidequest would otherwise play out the same.

There should also be more allusions/references to Gen 2. I'd like to see several references to Johto being in the west, and I wouldn't mind seeing foreshadowing of things like Viridian Trainer House, the Magnet Train, Lavender Radio Tower, and of course, Team Rocket's resurrection. The following characters should have appearances: Archer, Ariana, Petrel, Proton, Silver, Eusine, Karen, Janine, and maybe, Clair.

The following characters from later games should also have appearances: Prof. Rowan (was canonically in Kanto at the time; could give you a Sinnoh starter), Looker (as the Global Police agent on the SS Anne), Bertha (is probably related to Agatha), Brawly (friends with Bruno), and a few others. (None of which include Cynthia, don't worry. :P)

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380 posts
10.9 Years
My ideal Kanto remake would be very barebones:

- Kanto in full 3D.
- 151 Pokémon + new evos, unrestricted during the main game. Rosters updated to make up for it. Bruno with Steelix, Agatha with Crobat, Giovanni and Blue with Rhyperior. Maybe mix some Yellow and RB rosters. Give Yellow rosters to Blaine (and maybe Giovanni), RB rosters to everyone else.
- Day/night cycle.
- Cinnabar Island bigger and with a visible volcano.

For me, these are all obvious things that should definitely get put into the remakes. And, yes, GameFreak should totally give some random Trainers their teams from one of the other games set in Kanto or a mix thereof!



- No customization. Red is iconic. Leaf renamed to Green (Blue in Japanese) as in Adventures. Change Blue's dialogue to Green a bit to imply he looks down on her for being a girl, as a bully like him naturally would.

I wouldn't throw character customization away altogether, but I agree that its inclusion would have to be done very carefully! Maybe players could have a separate avatar for when they're online like how users can give their PSS (Player Search System, not Pokémon Storage System) profiles avatars in ΩR/αS? In-game, BettyNewbie's idea would probably apply, though I wouldn't mind seeing some additional outfits! As for default names, their use has always been optional, but I wouldn't mind seeing conventional names listed as alternatives to typing in a different name of your own choice. And I wouldn't exactly say that Blue has ever been a bully, per se; it seems to me that Blue's more like the kind of person who is apathetic towards other individuals unless and until they've proved themselves to him that they're worthy opponents.



- Sevii Islands are retconned to Orange Archipelago, with a small four gym quest as in the anime, and an additional Team Rocket quest that ties into the Johto story.

No, no, just no! Don't you even think about leaving the Sevii Islands out at sea with no life preserver! It's not that I wouldn't mind seeing the Orange Islands make an appearance in the games, its just that I'd rather have them show up in addition to the Sevii Islands! The two areas could have four gyms apiece, and that would make it so that the two archipelagos south of Kanto share a Pokémon League.



- Lugia and Ho-Oh are catchable in the postgame and require the birds and beasts to be in your possession, respectively. The National Pokédex would trigger the beasts roaming around Kanto. Team Rocket does NOT interact with any legendaries. (this would probably throw canon to the wind, though, because the beasts are supposed to be dormant until the Johto story, but generally anything that deals with legendaries other than the cover ones isn't canon anyway)
- Leave Mewtwo be, as in RBY and FRLG. The allure of Mewtwo is that its always doing it's own thing, completely unbound.

Maybe the legendary beasts could just be starting to stir in preparation for their appearance in the ΩR/αS/X/Y timeline's equivalents of G/S/C/HG/SS? This would maintain the logical consistency of this fork of the Pokémon franchise's canon chronology. Not that it really matters, though, since players of FireRed and LeafGreen were able to catch one of the legendary beasts post-game (I believe which one became available depended on which starter you picked at the beginning of the game….)



Sevii Islands is the biggest thing I'd change, because the gem quest isn't necessary in a future remake and the old fans would love to be able to visit the Orange Archipelago in the game. The Orange League itself isn't necessary, because in GSC and HGSS you beat the 8 Kanto gyms and there's no league afterwards, so the prize for beating the postgame would be the E4 rematch and admission into the postgame battle facility, which could work as an Orange League of sorts.

What makes you think that getting the Ruby and the Sapphire wouldn't be necessary to connect Kanto's PC infrastructure to that of Hoenn in Kanto remakes? All Kanto games since the introduction of the Hoenn region indicate either that Bill is impressed by what Lanette has done with the PSS (Pokémon Storage System, not Player Search System, in this case) in Hoenn or that he is proud to have worked with her to create the PC infrastructure shared by Kanto and Hoenn, depending on whether you are playing these games' English or Japanese versions, respectively. But even if Bill and Lanette did work together to create the PKMN-SS (Pokémon Storage System,) we don't know which parts of it they collaborated on! If the PKMN-SS's software was a joint effort, then its hardware would still have to be set up independently! In that case, a hard link between Kanto and Hoenn would still have to be established in order for their PKMN-SSes to communicate. According to the Sevii Islands parts of FR/LG's plot, doing so requires the Ruby and the Sapphire to be used as what I think is some kind of signal booster that allows such communication to bridge the large physical distance between Kanto and Hoenn.

Putting the Orange Islands into Kanto remakes would give GameFreak room to add more Gyms to them, but, like I said earlier, what I'd really like to see is a set of eight gyms split between the Orange Archipelago and the Sevii Islands. The resulting league could then either have its own Elite Four or share its E4 with Kanto and Johto (the fact that Kanto and Johto share the Indigo League makes an E4 rematch make sense in context.) Maybe defeating the Indigo League the first time around would give you access to either pre–Gen.-II Johto or the Orange and Sevii Islands and then doing so the second time around would unlock the other region? Would this, however, be augmented with the use of different Champions each time around. The first time around, you would, of course, face Blue since he would have just defeated Lance, whom you would face the second (and maybe the third?) time(s) around. Lance could probably stay on as Champion the third time around, but why shouldn't Green get a chance to be a Pokémon master in Blue's absence while he's off training for a grudge match against you?



I need to mention that these gyms would be harder than the 8 Kanto gyms. Each would focus on: Doubles, Triples, Rotation, and even Inverse Battles!

Using gyms to give players more chances to face off against Gym Leaders in these kinds of battles would be awesome! Maybe we could see a Gym where three people share the role of Leader and they each contribute two Pokémon to a team that they use in a three-on-one Gym battle against you?



But really, the postgame would depend a lot on when the games would be released. Because you'd have to acommodate a lot of legendaries, like ORAS did. You could have all sorts of legendaries, because having them in the game isn't canon. For example, Reshiram, Zekrom and Kyurem are in ORAS, but we know from XY dialogue that the events in the new timeline happened more or less in the same way as in the original one, so the Tao trio, at first glance, had no business being in Hoenn. The Lugia thing would just be a way to "canonize" its role as master of the bird trio, even though canonically Lugia is supposed to be resting deep inside the Whirl Islands.

I blame Hoopa for the excess of non-Hoenn legendaries in [I]ΩR[/I}/αS. And maybe Lugia wakes up a little earlier in this fork of the timeline and just roost in the Whirl Islands? This would clear him to leave there to hunt or something.



I'd probably have to fit Mega Evolution somewhere in there. Maybe you get your starter's Mega Stone from Mr. Fuji, like in Origins, and then the postgame quest involves it somehow, letting you acquire a Mega Ring at the very end of it. Then the E4 and Champion would have Mega Evolutions of their own. Introduce Mega Lapras, Mega Machamp and Mega Dragonite.

Didn't the case that Mr./Dr. Fugi gave Red in Pokémon Origins contain both Mega Charizardite X and a Mega Bracelet/Ring?

Loving the ideas that have been getting put out here. I think I would make use of that clock and where if you start a game at a certain time and show up late, Oak gives you Pikachu. Difference here from Pokemon Yellow is that it only happens if you start at a certain time and the other Kanto starters are available to you even if you start with one of them (as well as Pikachu in Viridian Forest).
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My ideal Kanto remake would be very barebones:

- Kanto in full 3D.
- 151 Pokémon + new evos, unrestricted during the main game. Rosters updated to make up for it. Bruno with Steelix, Agatha with Crobat, Giovanni and Blue with Rhyperior. Maybe mix some Yellow and RB rosters. Give Yellow rosters to Blaine (and maybe Giovanni), RB rosters to everyone else.
- Day/night cycle.
- Cinnabar Island bigger and with a visible volcano.
- No customization. Red is iconic. Leaf renamed to Green (Blue in Japanese) as in Adventures. Change Blue's dialogue to Green a bit to imply he looks down on her for being a girl, as a bully like him naturally would.
- Sevii Islands are retconned to Orange Archipelago, with a small four gym quest as in the anime, and an additional Team Rocket quest that ties into the Johto story.
- Lugia and Ho-Oh are catchable in the postgame and require the birds and beasts to be in your possession, respectively. The National Pokédex would trigger the beasts roaming around Kanto. Team Rocket does NOT interact with any legendaries. (this would probably throw canon to the wind, though, because the beasts are supposed to be dormant until the Johto story, but generally anything that deals with legendaries other than the cover ones isn't canon anyway)
- Leave Mewtwo be, as in RBY and FRLG. The allure of Mewtwo is that its always doing it's own thing, completely unbound.

Sevii Islands is the biggest thing I'd change, because the gem quest isn't necessary in a future remake and the old fans would love to be able to visit the Orange Archipelago in the game. The Orange League itself isn't necessary, because in GSC and HGSS you beat the 8 Kanto gyms and there's no league afterwards, so the prize for beating the postgame would be the E4 rematch and admission into the postgame battle facility, which could work as an Orange League of sorts.

I need to mention that these gyms would be harder than the 8 Kanto gyms. Each would focus on: Doubles, Triples, Rotation, and even Inverse Battles!

But really, the postgame would depend a lot on when the games would be released. Because you'd have to acommodate a lot of legendaries, like ORAS did. You could have all sorts of legendaries, because having them in the game isn't canon. For example, Reshiram, Zekrom and Kyurem are in ORAS, but we know from XY dialogue that the events in the new timeline happened more or less in the same way as in the original one, so the Tao trio, at first glance, had no business being in Hoenn. The Lugia thing would just be a way to "canonize" its role as master of the bird trio, even though canonically Lugia is supposed to be resting deep inside the Whirl Islands.

I'd probably have to fit Mega Evolution somewhere in there. Maybe you get your starter's Mega Stone from Mr. Fuji, like in Origins, and then the postgame quest involves it somehow, letting you acquire a Mega Ring at the very end of it. Then the E4 and Champion would have Mega Evolutions of their own. Introduce Mega Lapras, Mega Machamp and Mega Dragonite.

I like this remake idea, Cerberus. I think it's a good compromise.

I'd also change the Route 5 Daycare into being a full breeding one (as it should've been in FRLG), and have Berry Pots similar to HGSS. Of course, Mossy Rock would be added to Viridian Forest, Ice Rock to Seafoam Islands, and a new area to the Power Plant for Leafeon/Glaceon/Magnezone.

It'd be nice to have a full-blown Day Care Center on Route 5, but the one in the Sevii Islands should be kept since it's really very tedious to Fly back to a local port, take a Seagallop Ferry back to Kanto, Fly to either Cerulean City or Saffron City, and then (finally!) traipse down Route 5 to the Day Care. The ability to Fly directly to routes as players of OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire can would likely make this less frustrating, but I'd still like to have a Day Care closer by than the one in Kanto while waltzing through the Sevii Islands! And, yes, it would make sense for the Moss Rock, Ice Rock, and magnetically-charged area to be in those locations.



While the game wouldn't be likely to have customization, I wouldn't mind seeing a limited form of it that let you dress in Red and Green's older outfits (including Green's beta outfit). The unselected PC should also have a secondary rival role (as standard with almost all games released since RSE), maybe with a team based on that of Green's Adventures counterpart.

Great idea! I like how you think!



Now, one thing that would have to get a major overhaul even in the most minimalist remake is Celadon Game Corner. Game Corners are obviously a thing of the past, and while they could just stick Voltorb Flip in there again, the complete makeover Mauville City received in ORAS suggests that they might do something different.

One idea I had earlier in the thread was a video arcade. The slot machines would be replaced with arcade games with various minigames, including Pikachu's Beach from Yellow. It could even include ports of the old Pokémon Pinball game and Pokémon Mini games. Doing well in the minigames would get you coins/tokens in return, which could then be exchanged for prizes (like in the old Game Corner). The Gambler trainer class would be entirely replaced with a true Gamer class based on stereotypical gamers. The Celadon Team Rocket side quest would otherwise play out the same.

Yeah, losing the Game Corner entirely would wreak havoc with how players find Team Rocket's lair!



There should also be more allusions/references to Gen 2. I'd like to see several references to Johto being in the west, and I wouldn't mind seeing foreshadowing of things like Viridian Trainer House, the Magnet Train, Lavender Radio Tower, and of course, Team Rocket's resurrection. The following characters should have appearances: Archer, Ariana, Petrel, Proton, Silver, Eusine, Karen, Janine, and maybe, Clair.

The following characters from later games should also have appearances: Prof. Rowan (was canonically in Kanto at the time; could give you a Sinnoh starter), Looker (as the Global Police agent on the SS Anne), Bertha (is probably related to Agatha), Brawly (friends with Bruno), and a few others. (None of which include Cynthia, don't worry. :P)
Thanks for pointing these connections out! I completely forgot about the Global Police officer on the S. S. Anne, Agatha and Bertha might be related since their east Asian names share several similarities, and NPCs have mentioned that Brawly and Bruno used to train together!
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I like this remake idea, Cerberus. I think it's a good compromise.

I'd also change the Route 5 Daycare into being a full breeding one (as it should've been in FRLG), and have Berry Pots similar to HGSS. Of course, Mossy Rock would be added to Viridian Forest, Ice Rock to Seafoam Islands, and a new area to the Power Plant for Leafeon/Glaceon/Magnezone.

While the game wouldn't be likely to have customization, I wouldn't mind seeing a limited form of it that let you dress in Red and Green's older outfits (including Green's beta outfit). The unselected PC should also have a secondary rival role (as standard with almost all games released since RSE), maybe with a team based on that of Green's Adventures counterpart.

Now, one thing that would have to get a major overhaul even in the most minimalist remake is Celadon Game Corner. Game Corners are obviously a thing of the past, and while they could just stick Voltorb Flip in there again, the complete makeover Mauville City received in ORAS suggests that they might do something different.

One idea I had earlier in the thread was a video arcade. The slot machines would be replaced with arcade games with various minigames, including Pikachu's Beach from Yellow. It could even include ports of the old Pokémon Pinball game and Pokémon Mini games. Doing well in the minigames would get you coins/tokens in return, which could then be exchanged for prizes (like in the old Game Corner). The Gambler trainer class would be entirely replaced with a true Gamer class based on stereotypical gamers. The Celadon Team Rocket sidequest would otherwise play out the same.

There should also be more allusions/references to Gen 2. I'd like to see several references to Johto being in the west, and I wouldn't mind seeing foreshadowing of things like Viridian Trainer House, the Magnet Train, Lavender Radio Tower, and of course, Team Rocket's resurrection. The following characters should have appearances: Archer, Ariana, Petrel, Proton, Silver, Eusine, Karen, Janine, and maybe, Clair.

The following characters from later games should also have appearances: Prof. Rowan (was canonically in Kanto at the time; could give you a Sinnoh starter), Looker (as the Global Police agent on the SS Anne), Bertha (is probably related to Agatha), Brawly (friends with Bruno), and a few others. (None of which include Cynthia, don't worry. :P)
Let's say that GF keeps Gen I remakes (plus Gen VII) in the same timeline as ORAS...then Looker being in Hoenn would have to be after whatever happened to him in Kanto seeing how in ORAS he has amnesia and we have no clue what happened to him. I wouldn't mind Cynthia appearing though...she's more likable than Looker imo (there's got to be more GP Agents than that guy). I don't expect the Hoenn champions appearing though...since they take place around the same time unless if one is a few months/days before or after the other (like seems to be the case with HGSS and Pt seeing how it's snow in Sinnoh at the time of Pt but it's fall in Johto at the time of HGSS). I guess they could leave out Cynthia and give some love the lesser loved Champions...Alder, Iris (well pre-champion), and Diantha...maybe add Wallace (pre-champion most likely) here if there is a difference in exact days between ORAS and this theoretically Kanto remake, seeing how none of those have appeared outside of their games.
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No, no, just no! Don't you even think about leaving the Sevii Islands out at sea with no life preserver! It's not that I wouldn't mind seeing the Orange Islands make an appearance in the games, its just that I'd rather have them show up in addition to the Sevii Islands! The two areas could have four gyms apiece, and that would make it so that the two archipelagos south of Kanto share a Pokémon League.
That's an interesting idea. The key is to have something much more substantial and fleshed out than what FRLG had.

Maybe the legendary beasts could just be starting to stir in preparation for their appearance in the ΩR/αS/X/Y timeline's equivalents of G/S/C/HG/[I]SS[/I? This would maintain the logical consistency of this fork of the Pokémon franchise's canon chronology.
This could be how Eusine appears in the games. Have him appear in Celadon City (his hometown, based on dialog from Crystal) and mention his interest in Suicune and how the Beasts have been spotted in Kanto. After you're done speaking to him, they'll start roaming.

What makes you think that getting the Ruby and the Sapphire wouldn't be necessary to connect Kanto's PC infrastructure to that of Hoenn in Kanto remakes? All Kanto games since the introduction of the Hoenn region indicate either that Bill is impressed by what Lanette has done with the PSS (Pokémon Storage System, not Player Search System, in this case) in Hoenn or that he is proud to have worked with her to create the PC infrastructure shared by Kanto and Hoenn, depending on whether you are playing these games' English or Japanese versions, respectively. But even if Bill and Lanette did work together to create the PKMN-SS (Pokémon Storage System,) we don't know which parts of it they collaborated on! If the PKMN-SS's software was a joint effort, then its hardware would still have to be set up independently! In that case, a hard link between Kanto and Hoenn would still have to be established in order for their PKMN-SSes to communicate. According to the Sevii Islands parts of FR/LG's plot, doing so requires the Ruby and the Sapphire to be used as what I think is some kind of signal booster that allows such communication to bridge the large physical distance between Kanto and Hoenn.
While that works in the context of the story, it makes for terrible gameplay. HGSS could freely trade with DPP from the get-go (even if it was with non-Regional Dex Pokémon), and the same goes for XY and ORAS (with the exception of ORAS-exclusives like Cosplay Pikachu and the new Megas). Besides, Gen 1 remakes will more than likely happen in Gen 7, so they won't even be in the same Generation as the newest Hoenn games.

The first time around, you would, of course, face Blue since he would have just defeated Lance, whom you would face the second (and maybe the third?) time(s) around. Lance could probably stay on as Champion the third time around, but why shouldn't Green get a chance to be a Pokémon master in Blue's absence while he's off training for a grudge match against you?
No matter what happens, I'd like to see how Lance became Champion and how Blue took over Viridian Gym. I'd also like to see Lorelei and Agatha get send-offs that treat their characters with respect and open them up for appearances later on in future games (the postgame Lugia story I posted earlier in this thread is an excellent one for Lorelei). We'd also see Karen appear and learn more about her and how she joined the Elite Four later on.

(Based on her similarities with Agatha, and the fact that her team is comprised entirely of Kanto-native Pokémon, I'd say Karen's from Kanto, probably Lavender Town or Celadon City. The Psychic Clown, on the other hand, is probably from Johto, and I say screw him. He's not worth fleshing out, to be honest.)

I blame Hoopa for the excess of non-Hoenn legendaries in [I]ΩR[/I}/αS. And maybe Lugia wakes up a little earlier in this fork of the timeline and just roost in the Whirl Islands? This would clear him to leave there to hunt or something.
Well, the anime treated the Shamouti Island and Whirl Islands Lugias as two different Pokémon, and since we're already borrowing from the anime, there's always that excuse if it comers to it.

It'd be nice to have a full-blown Day Care Center on Route 5, but the one in the Sevii Islands should be kept since it's really very tedious to Fly back to a local port, take a Seagallop Ferry back to Kanto, Fly to either Cerulean City or Saffron City, and then (finally!) traipse down Route 5 to the Day Care. The ability to Fly directly to routes as players of OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire can would likely make this less frustrating, but I'd still like to have a Day Care closer by than the one in Kanto while waltzing through the Sevii Islands!
Well, I didn't say anything about ditching the other Day Care. The main thing is to have a place where you can breed before beating the Elite Four.

Let's say that GF keeps Gen I remakes (plus Gen VII) in the same timeline as ORAS...then Looker being in Hoenn would have to be after whatever happened to him in Kanto seeing how in ORAS he has amnesia and we have no clue what happened to him.
Well, there's an easy explanation for that, albeit a dark one--The SS Anne wrecked on its way to either Slateport or Lilycove (possibly caught in Hoenn's weather wars), and Looker hit his head, fell overboard, and washed up onto the shore of the Battle Resort (hence the reason why he had amnesia). This also explains why we never saw the SS Anne again (not even in Gen 2, where the SS Aqua replaced it).

I wouldn't mind Cynthia appearing though...she's more likable than Looker imo (there's got to be more GP Agents than that guy).
She was in every single DS main series game, including ones she had no business being in. She needs to take a break and let other characters have the spotlight for a change. I honestly don't want to see or hear about her again until Gen 4 remakes. (Which won't happen for a long time.)

I guess they could leave out Cynthia and give some love the lesser loved Champions...Alder, Iris (well pre-champion), and Diantha...maybe add Wallace (pre-champion most likely) here if there is a difference in exact days between ORAS and this theoretically Kanto remake, seeing how none of those have appeared outside of their games.
While we don't know how many years exactly separate Gen 1 from Gen 5, Iris probably isn't any older than a toddler, either way. That being said, it might be cute to see Drayden and a very young Iris appear at either the Indigo Plateau or even the Fan Club in Saffron City and portray Iris as being a huge admirer of Lance (even to the point of crushing on him).

Wallace definitely deserves more love, and if Cynthia could appear in HGSS, then I don't see any problem with him being in Gen 1 remakes. I wouldn't be opposed to putting a Contest Hall in the islands, where we could see him, along with Daisy Oak (who was said to be a star coordinator in FRLG), Jasmine, Whitney, and Pryce.

As for Alder and Diantha... We'll, they're still better than Cynthia. Maybe appearing in some other games would help flesh them out better (especially the latter).