RMT Need help putting together a team

Started by PikaBlue91 April 27th, 2014 11:35 PM
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Hello! I need help building my competitive team. I've only recently got into this so I'm not really sure how to get a good team.

I've EV trained an Azumarill and a Bronzong right now:


Azumarill
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Huge Power
Item: None yet
EV: 252 HP 252 Attack 4 Speed

Moves:
Play Rough
Superpower
Aqua Jet
Belly Drum

I'm not sure if I want to keep the Belly Drum set. Any advice on that?


Bronzong
Nature: Brave
Ability: Levitate
Item: None yet
EV: 252 HP 252 Attack 4 Spd

Moves:
Gyro Ball
Rest
Sleep Talk
Earthquake

At first I wanted to do a trick room/hypnosis set, but I figured all the other Pokemon I want to use are quite fast so that would not be very logical. Any suggestions?

The other Pokemon I had in mind were Arcanine, Roserade, Kangaskan, Garchomp (or Haxorus/Salamence).

Any tips or Pokemon I should change + sets I should use?
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BellyJet Azumarill is high risk, high reward. The item should be Sitrus Berry. You can also max out Speed to outspeed certain walls.

If BellyJet isn't your cup of tea, try out these sets below:
-Waterfall
-Aqua Jet
-Play Rough
-Superpower
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 228 HP/252 Atk/28 Spe
Item: Choice Band
Ability: Huge Power

or
-Waterfall
-Aqua Jet
-Play Rough
-Knock Off
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 16 HP/252 Atk/240 SDef
Item: Assault Vest
Ability: Huge Power

Bronzong isn't good in OU because of its new weaknesses to Dark and Ghost. While Aegislash suffers from the same weaknesses, it's the superior option over Bronzong because it can be bulky and strong:
-Shadow Ball
-Shadow Sneak/Sacred Sword
-Iron Head/Pursuit/Sacred Sword
-King's Shield
Nature: Quiet
EVs: 244 HP/12 Def/252 SAtk
Item: Leftovers

or
-Substitute
-Toxic
-King's Shield
-Shadow Ball
Nature: Modest
EVs: 244 HP/12 Def/252 SAtk
Item: Leftovers

or
-Shadow Ball
-Shadow Sneak
-Flash Cannon/Sacred Sword
-Pursuit/Sacred Sword
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Spooky Plate/Spell Tag

or
-Swords Dance
-Shadow Sneak
-Shadow Claw/Iron Head
-Sacred Sword/Head Smash
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

Arcanine is outclassed as an offensive Fire Pokemon by Charizard, Infernape, Talonflame and even Entei and Darmanitan, and a defensive Fire Pokemon by Heatran. While Arcanine has some decent coverage options, the other options are either faster, stronger or have more versatility:

Charizard:
-Dragon Dance
-Flare Blitz/Fire Punch
-Dragon Claw/Outrage
-Earthquake/Roost
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze

or
-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw
-Fire Punch/Earthquake
-Roost
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 144 HP/244 Atk/120 Spe
Item: Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze

or
-Fire Punch/Earthquake
-Dragon Claw
-Will-o-Wisp
-Roost
Nature: Careful
EVs: 248 HP/148 SDef/112 Spe
Item: Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze

or
-Fire Blast
-Solar Beam
-Focus Blast
-Dragon Pulse/Roost
Nature: Timid/Modest
EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Charizardite Y

Infernape:
-Fire Blast/Flare Blitz
-Close Combat
-Thunder Punch
-Hidden Power (Ice)/Grass Knot/Mach Punch
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 168 Atk/88 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Expert Belt
Ability: Iron Fist

Talonflame:
-Swords Dance
-Flare Blitz
-Brave Bird
-Roost
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Sharp Beak/Sky Plate
Ability: Gale Wings

or
-Flare Blitz
-Brave Bird
-U-turn
-Tailwind/Roost
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Choice Band/Sharp Beak/Sky Plate
Ability: Gale Wings

or
-Bulk Up
-Brave Bird
-Roost
-Taunt/Substitute/Will-o-Wisp
Nature: Careful
EVs: 248 HP/8 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Gale Wings

Entei:
-Sacred Fire
-Extreme Speed
-Stone Edge
-Bulldoze
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Choice Band/Life Orb

Darmanitan:
-Flare Blitz
-U-turn
-Earthquake/Rock Slide
-Superpower/Rock Slide
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Choice Band/Choice Scarf
Ability: Sheer Force

Heatran:
-Lave Plume
-Protect
-Taunt/Roar/Stealth Rock
-Toxic/Will-o-Wisp
Nature: Calm
EVs: 248 HP/220 SDef/20 Spe
Item: Leftovers

or
-Fire Blast/Overheat
-Flash Cannon
-Earth Power/Stone Edge
-Flamethrower/Fire Blast/Hidden Power (Ice)
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Choice Specs/Choice Scarf

Mega Kangaskhan is banned in Smogon OU.

Roserade's physical frailty gives it issues in standard play. However, it does make a decent Spikes stacker:
-Leaf Storm
-Hidden Power (Fire)
-Spikes
-Sleep Powder
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Technician

If you want more bulk, Ferrothorn is worth considering:
-Stealth Rock/Spikes
-Leech Seed
-Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave
-Power Whip/Protect
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 248 HP/52 Def/208 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs

or
-Leech Seed
-Protect/Thunder Wave
-Gyro Ball/Power Whip
-Stealth Rock/Spikes/Gyro Ball
Nature: Relaxed/Impish
EVs: 252 HP/216 Def/40 SDef or 252 HP/136 Def/120 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs

Here are the ideal sets for Garchomp:
-Stealth Rock
-Outrage/Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Fire Blast/Swords Dance
Nature: Naive/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Lum Berry/Life Orb/Rocky Helmet

or
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge/Rock Slide
-Fire Blast/Dragon Claw
Nature: Naive/Naughty/Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

or
-Swords Dance
-Outrage/Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge/Fire Fang
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry

or
-Stealth Rock
-Dragon Tail
-Earthquake
-Toxic/Fire Blast
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Rocky Helmet
Ability: Rough Skin

Haxorus and Salamence have fallen out of favor due to their new weaknesses to Fairy, but they're still viable nonetheless:
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage/Dragon Claw/Dual Chop
-Earthquake
-Poison Jab
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 36 HP/252 Atk/220 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry
Ability: Mold Breaker

Salamence:
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage/Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Fire Blast
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry

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If you're going to be battling on Battle Spot and not Pokémon Showdown, Mega Kangaskhan can be used. Here's a pretty standard (and good) singles set for it:


-Mega Kangaskhan w/Kangaskhanite
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Scrappy (Parental Bond when mega evolved)
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Moves: Return, Earthquake, Power Up Punch, Sucker Punch/Crunch
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Thanks for the great advice! I might consider Aegislash then.

And then I'd probably have to go with Charizard or Heatran then. The others don't appeal to me as much. Maybe I'll try to get a Chimchar as Infernape is good too.

I've used Ferrothorn in the past and I really like him but I don't want too many steel types on my team as I like to balance things out. In the past few months I have used Lilligant a lot and although she is great, she is quite frail with so many weaknesses. So I guess I will try Roserade for a while (even though she is frail too).

Garchomp is an easy choice then.

I want to start on battle spot. However, are there any other options to make the team complete apart from Kangashan? What would be a good option?
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Okay, I've reconsidered some things and I thought I could maybe use Klefki as a lead to set up barriers and spikes. Instead of Roserade, Mega Venusaur, but I think that then I would need a Charizard with drought to set up the weather, and I have Charizard X. I've already decided on Azumarill, Garchomp and Infernape being on the team but I just need to think of what to do with Venusaur and what should fill the last slot.
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Mega Venusaur doesn't need the sun. It actually doesn't like the sun because that then negates the neutrality to fire it gets from Thick Fat. Regular Venusaur likes the sun so it can get a Chlorophyll speed boost. So use Mega Venusaur on your team.

Somthing that resists/is immune to Ground would be good for the last slot, since Ground is a common attacking type and you are gonna have 2 pokes that are weak to it. Couple of things to consider are Gengar and Togekiss:

-Gengar w/Black Sludge or Life Orb
Nature: Timid
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Moves: Shadow Ball, Focus Blast, Sludge Bomb, Destiny Bond

or

-Gengar w/Black Sludge
Nature: Timid
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Moves: Shadow Ball, Substitute, Disable, Focus Blast/Sludge Bomb

-Togekiss w/Leftovers
Nature: Calm
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 248 HP, 252 Sp.Defense, 8 Defense
Moves: Thunder Wave, Air Slash, Roost, Dazzling Gleam/Aura Sphere/Ice Beam/Flamethrower

Oh, and a set for your Klefki:

-Klekfi w/Light Clay
Nature: Bold
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP, 248 Defense, 8 Sp.Defense
Moves: Reflect, Light Screen, Spikes, Foul Play
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Posted October 15th, 2014
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Mega Venusaur doesn't need the sun. It actually doesn't like the sun because that then negates the neutrality to fire it gets from Thick Fat. Regular Venusaur likes the sun so it can get a Chlorophyll speed boost. So use Mega Venusaur on your team.

Somthing that resists/is immune to Ground would be good for the last slot, since Ground is a common attacking type and you are gonna have 2 pokes that are weak to it. Couple of things to consider are Gengar and Togekiss:

-Gengar w/Black Sludge or Life Orb
Nature: Timid
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Moves: Shadow Ball, Focus Blast, Sludge Bomb, Destiny Bond

or

-Gengar w/Black Sludge
Nature: Timid
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Moves: Shadow Ball, Substitute, Disable, Focus Blast/Sludge Bomb

-Togekiss w/Leftovers
Nature: Calm
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 248 HP, 252 Sp.Defense, 8 Defense
Moves: Thunder Wave, Air Slash, Roost, Dazzling Gleam/Aura Sphere/Ice Beam/Flamethrower

Oh, and a set for your Klefki:

-Klekfi w/Light Clay
Nature: Bold
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP, 248 Defense, 8 Sp.Defense
Moves: Reflect, Light Screen, Spikes, Foul Play
Thank you so much. This is very helpful! Now all that is left for me to do is breeding and training them :).
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