RMT Rain Team VGC

Started by Boltup25 May 10th, 2014 7:12 AM
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This is an attempt at a rain team for VGC, although it is my first. Please feel free to weigh in however you see fit and especially to areas where I have multiple / options because I could not decide. Also do I have too many Mons with Protect?

Politoad
Drizzle/Calm/Damp Rock/Wacan Berry
252 Hp/208 SpD/48SpA
Surf/Scald
Ice Beam
Psychic
Protect

Ludicolo
Swift Swim/Timid/Leftovers
252Spd/252 SpA/4Hp
Scald
Giga Drain
Ice Beam
Protect

Jolteon
Volt Absorb/Timid/Electric Gem/Focus Sash
252 SPd/252SpA/4Hp
Thunder
Hidden Power Ice
Thunder Wave/ Signal Beam/Volt Switch
Protect

Mega Scizor
Technician/Adamant/Occa Berry
252 Hp/252Atk/4SPd
Bullet Punch
Roost/Brick Break
X-Scissor/U-Turn-(to replace bug bite. any other options?)
Protect

Rotom-W
Levitate/Modest/Sitrus
252 HP/252 SpA/4 Spd
Hydro Pump
Thunderbolt
HP Fire/Signal Beam
Protect

Dragonite
Multiscale/Modest/Dragon Gem
204 Hp/252SpA/52Spd
Draco Meteor/Dragon Pulse-(which would be better?)
Hurricane
Flamethrower
Protect

Toxicroak-Route 7
Dry Skin/Black Sludge/Adamant
252HP/252Atk/4 SPe
Fake Out-Egg
Drain Punch
Sucker Punch
Substitute

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VGC/Doubles isn't something I'm terribly knowledgeable about, but there are a few little things I can point out to you.

1) You probably want Damp Rock on Politoed to keep the rain going longer, since this is a Rain team.
2) Since VGC is based on X/Y now, the only gem item you can use is Normal Gem, since that's the only one that can be found in X/Y. So Jolteon and Dragonite can't use Electric/Dragon gems. Throw Choice Specs on Jolteon; fast and powerful Thunder spams in the rain is what it does best.
3) Mega Scizor can't hold an Occa Berry, since it has to hold its mega stone in order to mega evolve. Regular Scizor can hold the berry though.

And Protect is a very common move in Doubles/VGC; most teams have several pokes with Protect as one of their moves.
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This is an attempt at a rain team for VGC, although it is my first. Please feel free to weigh in however you see fit and especially to areas where I have multiple / options because I could not decide. Also do I have too many Mons with Protect?

Politoad
Drizzle / Calm / Damp Rock
252 Hp/208 SpD/48SpA
Surf/Scald
Ice Beam
Encore
Protect

Damp Rock is very beneficial to a rain team, and Encore lets you lock opponents into moves that disrupt their strategy - such as Protect. On Politoed it's nice for locking slower opponents like Gourgeist (a huge threat to rain teams) into something like Protect, WoW or Leech Seed.

Ludicolo
Swift Swim/ Modest / Life Orb
252Spd/252 SpA/4Hp
Scald
Giga Drain
Ice Beam
Protect

Ludicolo really needs a Life Orb and a Modest nature to reallt take advantage of its doubled speed.

Jolteon
Volt Absorb/Timid/Electric Gem/Focus Sash
252 SPd/252SpA/4Hp
Thunder
Hidden Power Ice
Thunder Wave/ Signal Beam/Volt Switch
Protect


Jolteon is very predictable and offers no utility. I'd recommend replacing it with Raichu or MegaManectric. Raichu offers Lightning Rod support, Fake Out, and Encore. MegaManectric boasts higher stats all around and has Lightning Rod and Intimidate support and has fire-type coverage.

Scizor
Technician/Adamant/Lum Berry
252 Hp/252Atk/4SPd
Bullet Punch
Swords Dance
X-Scissor
Protect

Scizors advantage over other steel-types in VGC is that it can easily setup a Sword's Dance and then put out offensive pressure. Lum Berry lets you absorb status moves making it easier to setup SD in more situations.

Rotom-W
Levitate/Modest/Safety Goggles
252 HP/252 SpA/4 Spd
Hydro Pump
Thunderbolt
Will-O-Wisp
Protect

Signal Beam is illegal at the moment and HP Fire isn't that helpful. WoW gives you fantastic burn support. Safety Goggles allows you to ignore Rage Powder so that Amoonguss cannot redirect your burns and attacks. It also makes you immune to Sleep Powder and Spore, which is incredible. Not taking sandstorm damage is also nice. n_n

Dragonite
Multiscale/Modest/Weakness Policy
204 Hp/252SpA/52Spd
Draco Meteor
Hurricane
Extremespeed
Protect

Extremespeed is too good to pass up, and so is Multiscale + Weakness Policy. Since you have Hurricane, you'll probably only be using Dragonite when you can guarantee that rain will be up, so Flamethrower isn't necessary.

Toxicroak-Route 7
Dry Skin/Black Sludge/Adamant
252HP/252Atk/4 SPe
Fake Out-Egg
Drain Punch
Sucker Punch
Substitute



Toxicroak isn't good at all. It's stats are too low and it's reliance on rain over-centralizes your team. n_n Based on your coverage needs I would replace it with a scarfed Mamoswine. Jolly Mamoswine outspeeds MegaManectric whom is a threat to rain teams.

I made my suggestions in bold, let me know if you need more help / want some other suggestions. ^_^
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