Video Game Violence Debate

Started by phoenix89 May 12th, 2014 10:30 AM
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Hello all! For school, I have always focused on the Violent Video Games causes violence among teens and young adults, and once again, I have the opportunity to make a presentation on this subject. Out of curiosity, I wonder what all of you think on this matter. Annnnnnnnnnnd go! ^^

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Just because you play a video game on a certain subject matter doesn't mean you're going to act upon it.

However, I do think it makes you less affected by such things. If you grow up playing video games with lots of death, then the concept of death is going to come across more easily. For example, there's so many television shows and movies with killings in them nowadays, children actually laugh when someone dies in them. It makes us numb in a way.
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Games don't cause violence. If anything, they avert it, they act as an outlet. A recent study actually suggested that it's not the violence in games that makes us feel violent, it's the challenge. WELL NO CRAP, anyone who's ever played one could tell you that.

I really don't get how this is even still a debate. There is a huge body of evidence that suggests real life violence and video games are not at all correlated. And yet ignorant people continue to prattle on about stuff they haven't researched at all. Ugh. It kills me.
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Even in studies that do show correlation between gaming and violent behavior, correlation does not equate to causation or even relation. Games by themselves do not cause violence any more than guns kill people. Violent people cause violence, and people have been killing each other for longer than the existence of video games and guns combined.
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I think we just get used to violence and gore. Example: 1st time watch the walking dead, and you get grossed out watching them. A few episodes later, and your laughing and cheering on the characters as they slice open zombies. Same with violence, you just get used to it. Just because I'm shooting something in a video game, doesn't mean I'll do it in real life. In pokemon, we battle other trainers pokemon. That doesn't mean I'll be doing this:

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Considering how violent games can be (as well as how violent television, books and even radio shows can be) it's more of an induced fear than anything. Actually, I was playing Saints Row a couple of days ago and it made me less inclined to be in a gang because it comes off as dangerous, and that game exaggerates up the wazoo.

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I actually was considering doing this very thing with a new thread. While technically there has been no proof of causation, there are lots of people out there who will tell you otherwise. Those are people we call liars, there has yet to be a study that shows causation between video games and violence. There is a huge difference between correlation and causation, and I think people need to focus on the benefits from video games. Like stress relief, better imagination hand-eye coordination, etc. Human beings are violent by nature, they've been killing each other for as long as they've existed. It has nothing to do with video games.
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In my opinion, violent games are just that. They are video games meant to be fun and enjoyable. There is no harm in playing them. Only an idiot would act upon it.
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Avoid playing games you don't have skills for.
That way you won't be violent.
Many people don't find it fun unless they're challenging themselves.
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It makes me think of the one sidequest in Fable 3, where you seduce the husband just to confirm the wife's fears that he is a cheater (or something around those lines). Later, he found out of my deceit and gave the player the ultimatum of I will kill you and the wife, OR run away with him but you as the player kills the wife...Naturally, my protective instincts kicked in, and I killed him instead. It freaked me out so bad that I turned off the xbox and watched a disney movie right after.

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ban dark souls 2 it's too hard and makes me hurt people

In seriousness, is there a legitimate debate about this going on? I wasn't aware there were people who could actually put forward a coherent argument for video game violence being a key factor in actual acts of violence. 8D

Would love to see a coherent devil's advocate argument if anyone fancies it.
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ban dark souls 2 it's too hard and makes me hurt people
Dark Souls 2 too hard...?
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Dark Souls 2 too hard...?
Hello, Dark Souls 1 anyone?
Would agree that DS1 is more difficult tbh. DS2 is a cakewalk YOU CAN GET TO SL200 SO COMFORTABLY and by then you're well equipped to blitz through things as long as you've got your gear up to scratch too. NG+ on DS2 has been pretty fun so far though to be fair. 8D Being able to use 20 Estus +7 and having high vit makes DS1 easy though.

ANYWAY UH YEP DEFINITELY NOT FEELING VIOLENT DUE TO EITHER OF THEM.
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All the proof you need to know that violent video games doesn't desensitize people to violence can be found on an episode of Penn & Teller that examined this very issue.

To drive the point home, they got an actual kid who plays violent video games and gave him a rifle to fire (at targets, of course). After a few shots, the kid said that was enough and was actually crying afterwards.

Another case and point...me. I've played violent video games like Doom and Quake since I was 4, but never touched a real gun in my life until a couple of months ago when my dad took me to a gun shop. My hands were shaking and I was nervous just holding onto one; even though I knew it was unloaded I still felt uncomfortable holding an actual one in my hands. My arms will still shaking for hours afterwards.

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Do video games cause people to be more violent than they already are? Probably not.

However, media (games, TV, films, some music) does tend to glorify violence, normally under the guise of 'he's a good guy' and make it look pretty damn easy. Now, that's not to say it'll make your typical person want to give it a try - but those who are unstable may well be affected. Again, this is true of all forms of media.

Is violent media a problem? Most of the time, no. However, I believe there should be some form of responsibility to keep it in check: making sure violent programs are past the watershed, enforcing cinema ratings, selling video games to people (a) of age and (b) disclosing why it is rated.

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Violent video games does have some affect on you but really it's us who promote violence. Now days in the news all they show are psychopaths killing off people or an innocent girl getting raped. Are they encouraged to do this by video games? I think not people. We cause this society to be like this so now that everything's screwed experts point to whatever as long as it makes them look good. Blaming violent video games is just another excuse humans say to prove that they are not the fault. Sure violence is frequent but those are choices you make, not your common violent video games. Plus, why blame crime on something that can't even defend itself? For gods sakes, we are living, not our cool and favorite games.
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I think it's odd we see the idea of becoming less sensitive to violence is automatically bad. Now, all honest studies about the subjects find that video games don't do this, But I'll talk about it anyway. I'd much rather my family be able to defend their lives from someone who threatened them by killing the person than have them die because they had a batman-like fear of killing. I wouldn't want them to be able to bring themselves to kill innocent people, but honestly, being desensitized to violence wouldn't generally cause that. It's like claiming that being a doctor and seeing someone die is going to turn you into a crazed killer. Sure, you may not be as affected by seeing death later, but that doesn't make you want to cause it.

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All form of media could affect how we think, including music, shows, movies, and of course, video games. There might be many reasons as to why video games in particular get extra attention, though; in my opinion, one would be is that you get to simulate all occurrences yourself, and not just watch from screen or listen from a speaker.

There are some people out there that simply don't have ability to draw a line and distinguish fantasy from reality, and this, I feel, is where the issue comes in. Those that are unable to do such things always have a possibility of being motivated from media, and actually perform whatever they see or hear. However, this is only the minority; I'm sure not all of us are like that. Those who are should be watched closely, and kept away from these kind of things as much as possible. To put it all together--if only a couple of people cause trouble, would it be fair for us all pay for the consequences? I don't think so. Most of us have been dragged into similar situations before, and we should know how they feel.

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All form of media could affect how we think, including music, shows, movies, and of course, video games. There might be many reasons as to why video games in particular get extra attention, though; in my opinion, one would be is that you get to simulate all occurrences yourself, and not just watch from screen or listen from a speaker.

There are some people out there that simply don't have ability to draw a line and distinguish fantasy from reality, and this, I feel, is where the issue comes in. Those that are unable to do such things always have a possibility of being motivated from media, and actually perform whatever they see or hear. However, this is only the minority; I'm sure not all of us are like that. Those who are should be watched closely, and kept away from these kind of things as much as possible. To put it all together--if only a couple of people cause trouble, would it be fair for us all pay for the consequences? I don't think so. Most of us have been dragged into similar situations before, and we should know how they feel.
Agreed. I remember watching the Katie show and this father blamed Halo for his son killing his mother. I guess he would sit in his room for days on end playing. His son said that he thought his mother would just "re spawn." I'm not sure if they ever diagnosed him with something, but I wouldn't just blame Halo on the game. Something else was probably wrong with him.
I think as little children, parents should keep their children away from these violent games until they can decide for themselves if they want to play these games. It always bothers me when parents at my work buy COD for a kid who is like seven years old.

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The existence of mentally ill people does not necessitate a ban on things that can set them off. Otherwise, everything in existence would be banned.
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