RMT Help a newb setting up a team!

Started by minibot7 June 5th, 2014 9:32 AM
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I am currently playing White.
Pokemons I've decided to get:
GengarItem:Leftover
Moveset:Hypnosis, Focus Punch, Substitute, Protect.

ScolipedeItem:Undecided
Moveset: Undecided

Haxorus/DragonairItem:Undecided
Moveset: Undecided


*I'm not very experienced with pokemon, nor have I ever set up a real team. I have decided on Gengar and Scolipede, but I need help filling out the moves for Scolipede. I want a dragon so I selected either Haxorus or Dragonair (I don't know which one is better so I need help selecting the dragon, too). In addition, please help me fill the the other 3 pokemons, I honestly don't know how to set up a good team. Thanks for anyone who would offer me a hand.

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Why are you giving Gengar a physical move when its Special Attack is clearly higher than its physical attack? Hypnosis is notoriously inaccurate, so there's little reason to use it. Here's a much better way of using Substitute Gengar:
-Substitute
-Shadow Ball
-Will-o-Wisp
-Disable/Sludge Bomb/Sludge Wave/Focus Blast/Taunt
Nature: Timid
EVs: 28 HP/148 SAtk/80 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Black Sludge

Here's a more offensive take on Gengar:
-Shadow Ball
-Sludge Bomb
-Focus Blast/Thunderbolt
-Destiny Bond
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Focus Sash

Scolipede must always use its Speed Boost ability, as this is the ability that made it even viable in OU:
-Megahorn
-Spikes
-Swords Dance
-Earthquake/Rock Slide/Baton Pass
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Focus Sash
Ability: Speed Boost

or
-Megahorn
-Poison Jab/Rock Slide
-Earthquake
-Protect
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Speed Boost

Dragonite is clearly superior to Dragonair, as it has better stats and a better move pool. I'd recommend testing out either Haxorus or Dragonite to see which member fits better:

Haxorus:
-Dragon Dance/Swords Dance
-Outrage/Dual Chop
-Earthquake
-Poison Jab/Taunt
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 16 HP/252 Atk/240 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry
Ability: Mold Breaker

Dragonite:
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage/Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Extreme Speed
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Lum Berry/Weakness Policy
Ability: Multiscale

or
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Extreme Speed
-Dragon Claw/Fire Punch
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Choice Band
Ability: Multiscale

or
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Extreme Speed
-Roost
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 216 HP/64 Atk/228 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Multiscale

Considering that Scolipede is weak to Stealth Rock, Defog support may be necessary; Mandibuzz can provide that for you, while covering the Psychic weaknesses of Scolipede and Gengar:
-Foul Play
-Roost
-Taunt/Whirlwind
-Defog/Toxic/Knock Off
Nature: Bold/Impish
EVs: 248 HP/136 Def/108 SDef/16 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Overcoat

An entry hazard setter like Therian Landorus or Ferrothorn works well on the team to help the team get KOs they normally can't:

Therian Landorus:
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-U-turn
-Stone Edge/Knock Off
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Rocky Helmet

Ferrothorn:
-Leech Seed
-Protect/Thunder Wave
-Gyro Ball/Power Whip
-Stealth Rock/Spikes/Gyro Ball
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/216 Def/40 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs

or
-Stealth Rock/Spikes
-Leech Seed
-Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave
-Power Whip/Protect
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/216 Def/40 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs

The last Pokemon can go to Sylveon or Clefable to provide Wish support:

Sylveon:
-Wish
-Protect
-Hyper Voice
-Heal Bell/Calm Mind
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/216 Def/40 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Pixilate

Clefable:
-Wish
-Protect
-Moonblast
-Heal Bell/Aromatherapy/Thunder Wave/Stealth Rock/Calm Mind
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Unaware/Magic Guard

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Mr platinum dude. Dont recommend mandibuzz or clefable/sylveon every time. Theres more to pokemon than to keep hazards away and wishpassing. You have a stealth rock weak pokemon? So? The fact that you recommend ferrothorn afterwards is just stupid too. Gengar with a bulky spread has SOME survivability but scolipede does not, and wishpassing to them in general would be useless. The mons you suggest fit better on balance/semistall. Scolipede should never be seen on anything but offense. Wanna deal with psychics? Scarf/chople/mega ttar. Wanna defog but keep offensive pressure? LO latios. Need a stealth rocker? Lando-t, bulky garchomp, deo-s/a (if HO). Slapping mandibuzz om every team doesnt work. Its good but not that good.

Edit: to the guy who actually made the thread. Dont restrict yourself by using certain pokemon on the same team unless they have any specific synergy.

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Scolipede must always use its Speed Boost ability, as this is the ability that made it even viable in OU:
-Megahorn
-Spikes
-Swords Dance
-Earthquake/Rock Slide/Baton Pass
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Focus Sash
Ability: Speed Boost

or
-Megahorn
-Poison Jab/Rock Slide
-Earthquake
-Protect
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Speed Boost


The last Pokemon can go to Sylveon or Clefable to provide Wish support:

Sylveon:
-Wish
-Protect
-Hyper Voice
-Heal Bell/Calm Mind
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/216 Def/40 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Pixilate

Clefable:
-Wish
-Protect
-Moonblast
-Heal Bell/Aromatherapy/Thunder Wave/Stealth Rock/Calm Mind
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Unaware/Magic Guard
He's playing on White, so Speed Boost Scolipede is unavailable, and Sylveon doesn't exist. Clefable isn't good in Gen 5 either.

Which reminds me....minibot, you can't do Wifi battles since Wifi was shut down for the Wii and DS/DS Lite/DSi last month. If you're playing against friends, you're ok then.
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He's playing on White, so Speed Boost Scolipede is unavailable, and Sylveon doesn't exist. Clefable isn't good in Gen 5 either.

Which reminds me....minibot, you can't do Wifi battles since Wifi was shut down for the Wii and DS/DS Lite/DSi last month. If you're playing against friends, you're ok then.
Didn't see that. Forget about Clefable Scolipede and Mandibuzz, then; they're not that good in B/W.

My point still stands on Haxorus, Gengar and Dragonite. The prime hazard clearers of B/W OU are Forretress, Donphan and Starmie:

Forretress:
-Stealth Rock/Spikes
-Rapid Spin
-Gyro Ball/Hidden Power (Ice)
-Volt Switch
Nature: Relaxed/Bold
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy

Donphan:
-Stealth Rock
-Rapid Spin
-Earthquake
-Ice Shard
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy

Starmie:
-Hydro Pump/Surf
-Psyshock/Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Rapid Spin
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure

or
-Scald
-Psyshock/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
-Rapid Spin
-Recover
Nature: Timid
EVs: 248 HP/32 Def/4 SAtk/224 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure

The ideal Wish supporter is Vaporeon:
-Wish
-Protect
-Scald
-Ice Beam/Roar/Toxic/Heal Bell
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb