DracoLatch

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Age 22
Male
Seen December 1st, 2022
Posted October 20th, 2016
171 posts
11.3 Years
I'm not looking for help with my ENTIRE team. Just a couple. I have a Greninja, a special attack sweeper, and a Bisharp, which I kind of use as a sweeper except it's defense allows it to survive like a tank. I have them both in the front in double battles as leads, and they do it very affectively. When either of them encounter a water type however; they have a real struggle... Unless I can find a move to take down water types, my sweeper leads might as well be suicide leads.

Bisharp: Nature=Adamant EV: 252 Attack 252 Defense IV=31 all Abillity: Defiant
Moves: Aerial Ace, Rock Tomb, Shadow Claw, Night Slash
General Strategy: Up against Water types which I struggle against, I generally make him use Shadow Claw or Night Slash, hoping it's immense strength can wear them down. Sometimes I use Rock Tomb to slow them however. I trained him in defense to be a better sweeper. It minimizes pain from the commonly used move Earthquake, making him much more useful.

Greninja: Nature=Timid EV: 252 SP attack 252 speed IV=31 all Abillity: Protean
Moves: Extrasensory, U-Turn, Ice Beam, Surf
General Strategy: Up against water types, my main defense is my U-Turn, however I'd much rather my lead fight down their walls instead of ask someone else to break them. When I'm not using U-Turn, my Extrasensory is my only weapon. With Protean however I can always guarantee any move I use would be powerful due to STAG. If you can find a water type destroyer, I'd love it

PlatinumDude

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Age 29
Male
Canada
Seen July 31st, 2020
Posted May 30th, 2020
12,958 posts
12.7 Years
Bisharp's moveset is messed up. Shadow Claw and Night Slash have redundant coverage together. Rock Tomb only sees use on Breloom, since it benefits from Technician. Sucker Punch covers Bisharp's Speed issues. It only needs its STABs to be effective, since Dark/Steel have decent neutral coverage together. Aerial Ace is useless because a super effective one is just as strong as a neutral STAB Sucker Punch or Iron Head:
-Sucker Punch
-Iron Head
-Knock Off
-Pursuit/Swords Dance/Protect
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Dread Plate/Black Glasses/Life Orb
Ability: Defiant

Give Greninja Grass Knot or Hidden Power (Grass) over U-turn. Your scouting needs are done with team preview anyways.

DracoLatch

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Age 22
Male
Seen December 1st, 2022
Posted October 20th, 2016
171 posts
11.3 Years
Bisharp's moveset is messed up. Shadow Claw and Night Slash have redundant coverage together. Rock Tomb only sees use on Breloom, since it benefits from Technician. Sucker Punch covers Bisharp's Speed issues. It only needs its STABs to be effective, since Dark/Steel have decent neutral coverage together. Aerial Ace is useless because a super effective one is just as strong as a neutral STAB Sucker Punch or Iron Head:
-Sucker Punch
-Iron Head
-Knock Off
-Pursuit/Swords Dance/Protect
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Dread Plate/Black Glasses/Life Orb
Ability: Defiant

Give Greninja Grass Knot or Hidden Power (Grass) over U-turn. Your scouting needs are done with team preview anyways.
What's the point of that speed EV though? Can't I just use it as a tank and be fine?

PlatinumDude

Nyeh?

Age 29
Male
Canada
Seen July 31st, 2020
Posted May 30th, 2020
12,958 posts
12.7 Years
What's the point of that speed EV though? Can't I just use it as a tank and be fine?
No. While Bisharp's Speed is subpar, it needs the Speed investment to outspeed walls, like Mandibuzz.