It's still amazing.

Started by srinator June 24th, 2014 9:55 PM
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It is obvious that many people in the current ou meta use lower tier pokemons. Many lower tier mons have certain niche's and do an amazing job for specified roles. Are there any lower tier mons you people use in ou? If so tell us about it in the following format

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Please don't mention extremely underpowered pokemons or ou tier mons that do the mentioned job better. Writing about the things it walls, counters or strategies it can be used with is expected.

Also I will be adding good posts to the this main post later on, anyway enjoy ^^
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Posted November 30th, 2014
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slowbro
regen
252hp 240def 16spdef or something
scald, psyshock, slack off, toxic/twave/cm/fire blast ir ur getting cute
niche mon on (semi) stall, checks specs keldeo well etc, forms nice core with zapdos n spdef hippo

blissey
Natural cure
the usual
the usual
use this over chansey if u dislike cm goth

ill add more later

Alfieri

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Voltage the Manectric
Lightning Rod
6 HP/252 Special Attack/252 Speed
- Thunderbolt
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power Ice
- Signal Beam

My Manectric has been such a beast and I love it. :)
Even without the mega, I slap on a life orb and he wrecks house. He always manages to catch Garchomp users by surprise with an HP Ice for a OHKO. I even had someone send out a Hydreigon and I crippled it with a Signal Beam. Have a grass type pokemon who can resist a STAB T-bolt? Too bad! Flamethrower ruined your day! >:D lmao

Plus Manectric is the bodyguard for my Milotic. If Milotic fears a Volt Switch from Rotom-W, I switch over to Manectric for an added Sp. Atk boost and sweep even more!

PlatinumDude

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Voltage the Manectric
Lightning Rod
6 HP/252 Special Attack/252 Speed
- Thunderbolt
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power Ice
- Signal Beam

My Manectric has been such a beast and I love it. :)
Even without the mega, I slap on a life orb and he wrecks house. He always manages to catch Garchomp users by surprise with an HP Ice for a OHKO. I even had someone send out a Hydreigon and I crippled it with a Signal Beam. Have a grass type pokemon who can resist a STAB T-bolt? Too bad! Flamethrower ruined your day! >:D lmao

Plus Manectric is the bodyguard for my Milotic. If Milotic fears a Volt Switch from Rotom-W, I switch over to Manectric for an added Sp. Atk boost and sweep even more!
For the record, Manectric is an OU Pokemon.

Anyway:

Chesnaught:

-Leech Seed
-Spiky Shield
-Hammer Arm
-Wood Hammer/Spikes
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Bulletproof

Chesnaught serves as a check to Aegislash and Gengar thanks to Bulletproof blocking their main STAB moves. Chesnaught also has high enough Defense to take any of Aegislash's physical moves. It can't do much to them, though, but it also helps in walling/checking Mega Tyranitar and Mega Gyarados (Chesnaught still takes a chunk from Ice Fang and Ice Punch, though).

TheKurtzinator

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Milotic (UU)
Nature: Bold
Ability: Marvel Scale
Item: Leftovers or Shell Bell
EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 Spe

Scald
Recover
Ice Beam
Haze

My defensive wall. Has actually won me a couple battles. I will never have a team without Haze on it now either because of this setup. Completely negates substitute sweepers.

Magneton (NU)
Nature: Modest
Ability: Sturdy
Item: Evolite
EV's: 156 HP / 252 SpA / 100 Spe

Thunderbolt
Flash Cannon
Hidden Power (Fire)
Protect

Has come through in the clutch during my early wifi battling days. Surprises a lot of people with the hidden power fire. Also easily takes out Sylveon with STAB Flash Cannon. Also makes a great revenge killer that cannot be OHKO'd. Finally, the Evolite makes it quite hard to actually take down if no counters exist or are left on the other team.
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SpDef wisp mew is pretty cool, it beats a lot of SR leads not named Deoxys and can be EVd to outspeed and get a wisp or a psychic off on breloom lead as well. It's succeptible to knock off obviously but the psychic typing isnt a total drawback, as Will-O-Wisp prevents it from being complete Aegislash bait unlike a lot of other psychics. Really the only psychic I care to use in this meta actually. This guy can do work.

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Arcanine @ Life Orb
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Close Combat
- Wild Charge
- Extreme Speed

I normally tend to use a more bulky set, but arcanine has enough speed to out speed a lot of mons in the meta, plus I use it to break stall as an alternative to infernape for the extra bulk and power. Most stall teams don't have scarf users, they use specs or band on their trick mons. Mixed arcanine can handle that very well. I am not using intimidate for the fear of bisharp.




Kabutops @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Superpower
- Waterfall
- Stone Edge
- Aqua Jet

The staple of rain teams anywhere and everywhere. Kabutops jumps right from Ru to Ou after drizzle or rain dance, to be honest even without rain it can be quite destructive in terms of swords dance or choices items. It's outclassed as a spinner by exca and hence I won't mention it here

Tavros

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Accelgor
Unburden
248 atk, 8 sp.atk, 252 speed
Naive nature
Focus Sash
Moves:
Spikes
Encore
Yawn
Me first

Accelgor is a great spikes set up pokemon. Yawn either forces a switch and gets a free layer of spikes, or puts them to sleep and gets multiple layers of spikes. Focus sash ensures Accelgor survives long enough to set up spikes. If the opponent leaves in their sleeping pokemon, me first can greatly cripple the opposing pokemon, until the opponent smartens up and stops selecting offensive moves while asleep. Accelgor is without a doubt fast enough to make a succesful me first. The spread balances it's atk and sp.atk so that it can cripple special and physical attackers.

It's outclassed by skarmory because skarmory can roost and reset its sturdy, unlike Accelgor which relies on focush sash to stay alive. If you're lucky enough to come across one with its hidden ability Accelgor overall is a fast, fun, and annoying entry hazard set up pokemon.

Zeffy

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^ Since when?

Manectric says RU in B/W Smogon, unless Mega Manectric became OU but I'm not talking about Mega Manectric.
You said it yourself, Manectric was RU in BW. It's no longer the case now that XY is the latest generation.

Alfieri

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You said it yourself, Manectric was RU in BW. It's no longer the case now that XY is the latest generation.
I get it, it's OU now. I only needed to be told once. I don't check on Smogon regularly and on the normal pages where they post builds, they didn't have any XY tab yet. I wasn't aware they already made a tier list in their forums. :P

Zeffy

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I get it, it's OU now. I only needed to be told once. I don't check on Smogon regularly and on the normal pages where they post builds, they didn't have any XY tab yet. I wasn't aware they already made a tier list in their forums. :P
Unless you regularly play using Pokemon Showdown!, you wouldn't really know the new tier lists. OU has been out for a few months now, and the other tiers follow suit. Also, the reason why there isn't an XY tab yet is because writing an analysis takes time. Smogon has a whole process of set approvals, grammar checks, etc. so imagine all the hard work.

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what does magneton do that magnezone dont? I mean, it has better speed, but have you ever faced anything relevant that the higher speed helped you beat?
I guess Eviolite Magneton would have better defenses? idk, you shouldn't use Magneton in OU tbh
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I've been using Furfrou in OU since before tiers were clearly established for Gen 6. To be honest, I'm a little surprised to see it sitting in NU now. That isn't to say I think it belongs in OU, 'cause it doesn't. It's certainly usable in the upper tiers, though. Not sure how good or bad it looks on paper, but it's always been a great support Pokemon on my teams. This is roughly the set I run:


Name: Furfrou
Item: Chople Berry
Ability: Fur Coat
Ev: Most if not all invested into HP and Special Defense. Though some Defense is nice too, Fur Coat effectively doubles its Defense to 300+ even without investment, making it nicely bulky all around. I've experimented a bit with investing some EVs in Attack as well, which makes its Return a bit nastier when it needs to be, but either way works.
Moves:
- Thunder Wave
- Roar
- Protect
- Return

This set is primarily for paralyzing multiple Pokemon on the opponent's team, though it fulfills a few other roles as well. The main thing about Furfrou is its surprising bulk, which most players don't seem to expect. It comfortably sponges pretty much any move that isn't either boosted or Fighting-Type, allowing it to pull off its various tricks before going out. Chople Berry gives it the freedom to take a single Fighting move, often with at least half of its HP intact. It can then proceed to paralyze and switch. You could give that up to give it Leftovers or something though, I suppose. Roar can phase out stat boosts, or shuffle the enemy team into entry hazards (which Furfrou does well thanks to its rounded bulk). Protect lets it scout for dangerous moves - I like to keep Furfrou switching in and out a lot, so this is great for helping me decide what my switch-in options are. Return is for when it's cornered, and while it won't do much to a bulky opponent it's actually pretty rough on the flimsier things it can't paralyze, like Galvantula and Thundurus. I prefer to lead with Furfrou, though this does mean it runs into trouble against Ground-Type leads and bulkier Electric-Types.

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-Gastrodon w/Leftovers
Nature: Relaxed
Ability: Storm Drain
EVs: 252 HP, 248 Defense, 8 Sp.Defense
Moves: Scald, Earthquake, Recover, Toxic

Gastrodon has been great for me.
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-Gastrodon w/Leftovers
Nature: Relaxed
Ability: Storm Drain
EVs: 252 HP, 248 Defense, 8 Sp.Defense
Moves: Scald, Earthquake, Recover, Toxic

Gastrodon has been great for me.
As moxie said tell us something, I mean swagsire does better job in stall, and this is t ubers for a kyogre check. Offensively isn't swampert better? I would have mentioned dd wishcash but I couldn't stop laughing :p

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As moxie said tell us something, I mean swagsire does better job in stall, and this is t ubers for a kyogre check. Offensively isn't swampert better? I would have mentioned dd wishcash but I couldn't stop laughing :p
Oh, right. >.<

Yes, Quagsire is a bit better for stall because of Haze and Unaware+Swagger, and Swampert has the better offenses, but Gastrodon still gets the job done nicely; its been fairly consistent for me. What it has over Swampert (and Quagsire to a lesser extent) is the Sp.Attack boost from Storm Drain and more reliable recovery than Swampert's Rest. Part of why I like using it is that some people.....don't seem to know what a Gastrodon is. I've had several times where people try to hit it with a Water attack, see Storm Drain, then try to hit it with an Electric attack, which also fails, and then they get confused for a sec.

and Gastro is adorable
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“No, I... I have to be strong. Everyone expects me to."
Oh, right. >.<

Yes, Quagsire is a bit better for stall because of Haze and Unaware+Swagger, and Swampert has the better offenses, but Gastrodon still gets the job done nicely; its been fairly consistent for me. What it has over Swampert (and Quagsire to a lesser extent) is the Sp.Attack boost from Storm Drain and more reliable recovery than Swampert's Rest. Part of why I like using it is that some people.....don't seem to know what a Gastrodon is. I've had several times where people try to hit it with a Water attack, see Storm Drain, then try to hit it with an Electric attack, which also fails, and then they get confused for a sec.

and Gastro is adorable
You were probably on the lower ladder, jsyk.

But tbh since azu is the most dangerous water type in ou right now (ignore keldeo), gastrodon can't hold it's fort against a belly play, you need unaware. That's the main reason people even use swagy. Gastrodon generally has no niche in the meta since most people who are even a bit good won't use water attacks on it, and well it can be easily out-predicted.
Also after the wheatear nerf rain teams have seen much less usage since last gen and gastro's main plus point was that it could heavily wall many rain teams. Also I have been seeing grass knot on thundurus lately >> so Idek.
Don't get me wrong I do like gastro, it gets memento, clear smog, recover.
It's just isn't as good as last gen.
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I guess Eviolite Magneton would have better defenses? idk, you shouldn't use Magneton in OU tbh
Magneton has 10 more base speed, which makes it (sometimes) better fit for a scarfer role. Magneton was used on one successful #1 BW team a few years ago where the challenge was to use lower-tier Pokemon. I wouldn't recommend using it outside of RU/NU though.
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Weavile (BL)
Item: Focus Sash
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Ice Punch, Ice Shard, Knock Off, Swords Dance

He has won me many games on Pokemon Showdown and is always reliable. I was once losing 5-2. I spun away the stealth rocks and swept at +4.

Tentacruel
Item: Black Sludge
Ability: Liquid Ooze
Moves: toxic, scald, protect, rapid spin

Pretty much anti leech seed /w Liquid ooze. It's such a good special wall and spinner. It's clutch with the burn on scald. I usually use it as death slaughter because mega venusaur is much better (it's my overall bulky pokemon).

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