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Old March 14th, 2005 (8:17 AM).
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Here's my team, I just built it. Theoretically, it should work, but… theory just isn't enough nowadays ^^

Smeargle (M) @ Chesto Berry ** AutoSketch
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 255 HP / 255 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Dragon Dance
- Spider Web
- Spore
A Dragon Dancer for Pokémon without Dragon Dance, Spore keeps webbed enemies ensnared [SW because it has more PP]. Works well, I imagine, with Big Momma.

Kangaskhan (F) @ Liechi Berry ** Big Momma
Trait: Early Bird
EVs: 4 HP / 253 Atk / 253 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Attract
- Brick Break
- Frustration
- Shadow Ball
Female attracter, DDed, and ready to power through. SB for Ghosts, BB for Tyranitar and the like, Frustration for 153 power of STABbed goodness!

Charizard (F) @ Liechi Berry ** Dracona
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 4 HP / 253 Atk / 253 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Flamethrower
Another physical sweeper, and an alternate BP from Smeargle [which can DD while the opponent's asleep, as well].

Seviper (M) @ Petaya Berry ** BladeScale
Trait: Shed Skin
EVs: 4 Atk / 253 Spd / 253 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Crunch
- Flamethrower
- Haze
- Hidden Power [Ice]
Special user, hazer, anti-Dragon. Nice power XD

Aggron (M) @ Ganlon Berry ** IronStone
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 253 HP / 4 Atk / 253 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Counter
- Iron Defense
- Rest
- Rock Slide
My wall, counter dishes out major damage against *most* physical sweepers using BB or EQ. ID is for a bit of extra Defense on the side ^^ RS is because I don't want to rely only on Counter.

Espeon (M) @ Petaya Berry ** PsyBlast
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 253 Spd / 253 SAtk / 4 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Psych Up
- Psychic
- Toxic
True Special Sweeper, with a bit more defensive abilities than Alakazam [who knows, it may last where 'Zam doesn't, and continue its sweeping run XD] Another possible DD BP, but for Speed only.



Of course, this is only theoretical. There are probably a million counters for it… please let me know!
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I see a choice banded Salamence not having much trouble taking care of this team
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Old March 14th, 2005 (12:39 PM).
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Theres a mistake you made. You only need 252 to have a maxed out stat. Reduce it and throw the remaining into HP.
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Put EQ over Iron Defense on Aggron
and put liechi on him
that makes him a possible DD reciever
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Theres a mistake you made. You only need 252 to have a maxed out stat. Reduce it and throw the remaining into HP.
Ya, but 6 EVs on a stat is the same as 4, so it doesn't matter either way.

EQ, eh? I'll try it.
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Old March 14th, 2005 (1:21 PM).
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Up pops the Skarmory to Roar little Smeargle/Kangaskhan away.

Charizards set might want Overheat > Flamethrower due to lack of Sp.Atk EV's.

I've never, ever, sussed out Seviper, but that looks alright, he'll get raped by Houndoom though.

Using Aggron as a wall isn't that great of an idea, considering he has a 4x weakness to one of the types he supposed to be protecting..
He'll get raped by Boahtar, I'm thinking he needs Earthquake over Counter.

Espeon, obviously can't attack Dark types, which is why you pass to your Sp.Atker when one comes out right?
To bad your Sp.Atker already has problems with a Dark type, so, I'm thinking, consider having HP Water over Psych Up.

Your team has a massive McGar weakness, with Focus Punch being Super Effective against 3 of your pokemon, and Thunderbolt taking care of Charizard.

Theoretically, the idea is there, but the Smeargle pass is stopped by Skarmory, and the Espeon pass is stopped by Blissey..

As for a rating, I'm thinking 5-6/10, as I can see a few problems with it.
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Old March 14th, 2005 (2:06 PM).
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Aggron can take Boah if it has quake

Boah can't sub and its not like It'll be doing anything with crunch or T-Bolt

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It screws boah if it has HP: steel or Bug and it can get set up on stuff

if it has a sub up it can T-wave mence and then Rockslide it for the OHKO
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Old March 14th, 2005 (2:10 PM).
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Why not just Rock Slide Salamence anyway if it's a OHKO.

And Boahtar WILL deal some decent damage with Thunderbolt, remember Aggron isn't immune to it, and he has low, LOW, Special Defense.
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T-Wave is in case you miss and
it can T-wave random stuff too
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Fair enough.

He's ruined by Ground pokemon though.
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you can't stop that tho, if he was faster it might have been avoidable but, he's too slow
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Old March 14th, 2005 (2:45 PM).
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True.

>_>

Hp Ice.

<_<

I know, I know, it was a joke.

He could still hurt things like Duggy, I mean, EQ couldn't be a OHKO could it?

Actually it's 4x effective isn't it?

Poor Aggron.
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FP is a OHKO to duggy so if it as its sub up....
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Old March 14th, 2005 (2:53 PM).
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Oh that's cool then.

I thought Duggy could take it like a man.

Guess I was wrong.
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Old March 14th, 2005 (3:15 PM).
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lol 212 hp and neglible defense don't make a man
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Old March 14th, 2005 (3:53 PM).
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Hey he can take a Flail at least.
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I see a major problem whenever a Smeargle with Mean Look / Spider Web comes up. If you use Spore first, your opponent will just switch out. If you use Mean Look first, you most likely won't survive the hit that you will probably receive before using Spore. I think an Umbreon needs to Baton Pass Mean Look. Take care.
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theres a way to solve that.
send smeargle out on bliss.
use mean look. most ppl let bliss take the spore for natural cure to kick in.
then spore.
another way is to spore bliss first.
then spore again.
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Old March 14th, 2005 (9:00 PM).
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That's not a bad idea, it'll depend who you are battling, I personally don't like using Smeargle, for any reason, his stats are to low to be of any use to me I'm afraid.
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That's not a bad idea, it'll depend who you are battling, I personally don't like using Smeargle, for any reason, his stats are to low to be of any use to me I'm afraid.
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Old March 15th, 2005 (3:18 AM).
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AND, he is OHKO'd by anything with a half decent attack stat.

CB Megahorn Heracross anyone?
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Old March 15th, 2005 (6:24 AM).
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Well, not alot of opponents [I imagine] are prepared for him, and I do know of another way to use him *kinda* effectively, as an annoyer, at least. I like that they learn every attack, so I can use insane combos.

Aggron has Counter and high Defense to take out what I feel is my most dangerous opponent, rest is in case I can send it out against something that can't do much damage, and counter once it wakes up [I'm thinking Lum Berry/switch to make it a 2-time counterer]

I checked, Aggron has the highest Defense besides Legends/ubers, which I personally don't use.
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Old March 15th, 2005 (6:37 AM).
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He has high defense, I just think it's kind of useless due to being weak (A 4x weak to both Fighting and Ground) to the type of attacks he is supposed to be defending (Physical)
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Hmmm… yes, but I've found that he can *usually* survive one of them to counter it, and besides, how many 'Mences would take the risk of Aggron Rock Slide OHKOing them? They'd probably BB or EQ, trying to OHKO it, before DDing.
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I'm not talkin specifically from Salamence, what about if you get stuck 1 on 1 with Hariyama/Heracross etc..
 

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