Social justice is trying to do good things but for very, very wrong reasons. It's wrongly assuming that society runs on a secret conspiracy where all the white, straight men have a club meeting every Thursday where we discuss new ways to "oppress" you. That doesn't happen and saying that all non-minorities are innately better off than you is incorrect. There are men that face injustice as well as women, whites as well as blacks. You should be addressing all disadvantage rather than saying only certain people are worthy of assistance. I can imagine being out of a job and going to a welfare office run by some of the posters in this thread "HA! You're a cis, white, straight male, you can't be disadvantaged, tough luck pig!"
Literally nobody thinks this. Also, white privilege means that you don't face difficulties for being white, the same way straight privilege means that you don't face difficulties for being straight. Nobody ever said that privileged people couldn't have problems so for the love of god take a step back and stop blowing the idea of privilege out of proportion.
The people you are trying to defend are not oppressed and they have rights. Everybody does and ever since the civil rights movement in the 60's laws specifically state that you all have the same rights regardless of race, gender etc. For example the right for adults to vote, free speech, the right to a lawyer.
Having rights does not mean that you don't face oppression. Are you seriously going to tell me that poc and white people are equal in society, or lgbt+ people and straight people? Don't be so ignorant. It might be easy for you as a straight white male to just write it off as individual cases or not important or something, but it's not. As long as you can still be murdered and treated with disdain for your sexuality things can not be called equal.
Social justice warriors violate human rights by attempting to paint the picture that only people of minority status can have their rights violated. That's false and against the very spirit of the rights themselves.
LMAO this is so ridiculous. That doesn't happen.
If I'm going to support people who are disadvantaged it is because they are people, regardless of what label you slap on them. White, straight men are people too and they do not get life on easy mode like you might think, social justice is simply manipulation of historical guilt in an attempt to receive special treatment.
I do not think that they get life on "easy mode". I think that being straight automatically gives you a certain amount of privilege that a gay person doesn't have.
I bet you can all conveniently ignore things that are actually advantageous to women in this world. Having a pretty smile and a pair of tits will get you positive sexism, perhaps less attractive women do not receive those benefits but I don't hear models complaining when they get massive pay checks for being an alluring sex object.
So being seen as nothing more that a sex object is an advantage.... ok....
The worst thing I see is the expectation that women, gays or ethnic groups should be included into entertainment simply for the sake of diversity. It's taking away creative freedom and trying to force yourselves as being special.
No it's not? Representation is incredibly important in the media. Honestly, I do not understand why people get so uppity over it. Like what, do you want every character to just be white and straight? Even ignoring the social justice side of things, it's just so much more interesting when characters have completely different backgrounds. One of the things that makes shows like OITNB and even Community so good is that they have such diverse casts that make for more interesting watching. Why do you care if people want diversity?
Gay pride parades are ridiculous as well, pride in something you are arguably born into. Imagine a straight or white pride parade, it would be called misogynistic or racist but minorities can get away with it.
"minorities can get away with it" what is your damage dude.... who hurt you...
That's really exactly the crux of the issue, minority rights are largely just at the opposite end of the spectrum of groups like the KKK. And by not understanding her feelings she means if you don't agree with her ideology that all women are always demonised all the time you are an offensive misogynistic pig.
Did you seriously just compare people campaigning for their rights to the KKK.... oh my god....
Where? And how so? Care to expand? It seems you haven't at this point yet.
Expand that racism etc. are ingrained into society? Think about how hetero-normative and whitewashed society is, how naturally racist, sexist and homophobic jokes are made. Oppression isn't just people having their feelings hurt.
What kind of vague, baseless emotion-trip ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is this?
My point was that when there are people being murdered for being trans (or any other minority), telling people to love each other isn't going to solve any problems. We're taught to be kind from a young age and ♥♥♥♥ like
this still happens. If we want change we have to tackle these issues at their core and tear down the prejudiced views society has. Telling people to play nice won't do anything.
What you're telling me is that setting aside our differences as a species is going to lead to an Ayn Rand-style dystopia. Is that right?
No. For one thing, I don't think setting aside our differences is going to work. When I talk about erasing identities, I mean that by preaching some sort of "we are all one race" thing you're ignoring the differences between the issues minorities face and ignoring how ingrained into society racism/homophobia etc. are.
The thing is you're not simply "acknowledging". Undertaker outlined how much more you're doing, see above (if you bothered to do more than skim)
Can you expand on this? Because I replied to Undertaker's posts so...
Appeal to emotions much?
I have every right to be angry when someone tries to blame the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ homophobia I have to put up with on me. Like really, black people have bee treated as second class citizens for hundreds of years, and you're blaming ME for social inequality? You're delusional.
As a victim of child molestation, I find this beyond obscene.
Both of those were replies to Undertaker. Sorry if it came across as offensive.
I still haven't gotten any replies to these:
You both need to stop putting words in my mouth. I never said that being privileged automatically makes you a bad guy who's been oppressing his whole life and I never said that I'm not privileged?? (like I literally mentioned that I won't understand racism fully because I'm white). I don't know why you have such knee jerk reactions to the mention of privilege but it's stupid, and you both need to suck it up and realise that yeah, maybe being straight DOES grant you certain advantages and being white DOES grant you certain advantages. I'm gonna quote myself here because you ignored most of my post:
No? You're overreacting. Acknowledging privilege is not "oppressing the oppressors" and recognising that it exists is not an attack on anybody.
"Privilege is the idea that in human society, some groups benefit from unearned, largely-unacknowledged advantages that increase their power relative to that of others, thereby perpetuating social inequality"
Straight people have a certain privilege that comes with being straight. Being straight is accepted in society; nobody gets beaten up for being straight, nobody discusses on tv whether or not straight people should have certain rights and nobody looks down on straight people for their sexuality. The same cannot be said for lgbt+ people. Therefore, straight people automatically have a certain amount of privilege.
It's slightly different in regards to men and women, because gender roles are complex and negatively affect them both, but there is still a certain amount of privilege that comes with being male (look at how women are treated in the scientific field, for example).
I hope you get the picture.
I can't explain it any better. You are the ones that are reacting negatively to privilege. When I say straight people are privileged, I mean that they don't face any negative repercussions in society for their sexuality the way gay people do. When I say white people are privileged, I mean that they don't face any negative repercussions in society for their skin colour the way PoC do. You see? It doesn't mean that you can't have problems and it doesn't mean that you're a bad person. It means that you're not oppressed in the way minorities are.
Also, general question - why the aversion to social justice? Like wow... educating yourself about oppression and systematic inequalities... how horrific. Most of the people making extreme post either don't have fully developed opinions (most of the people on tumblr are like 14/15) or are trolls trying to give social justice a bad name. We live in a society riddled with racism, sexism and homophobia and your problem lies with the people angry about this on the internet? Grow the ♥♥♥♥ up.
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I have a fanbase of 38,000 on YouTube. Nearly 5,000 of them on my personal Facebook, a ton more on my Facebook page, 3,000 on Twitter, nearly a thousand on Tumblr, etc. I see a LOT of stupid ♥♥♥♥, and most of it manifests itself in two ways: the dumb "90 percent of you will get this wrong!" pictures on Facebook, and the social justice warrior posts on Tumblr. I swim in these things EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. So I'd suggest you take some time to figure out just who I am before you assume how much time I spend on Tumblr.
I;m actually crying this is the funniest thing I've ever read